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caffeine ups and downs

ViviTheMage

ViviTheMage

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I've been off pop/caffeine for about 4-5 weeks now..it was rough coming off, haha.

I feel good though, I had some mexican coke yesterday at 3PM...normal 340mL bottle, and holy shit it sucked. I was up until 3AM, I was in bed at about 11:30, but could NOT sleep...wtf.

I used to stay up til about midnight, 1AM, and go to bed, when I drank pop, but without pop I am in bed around 11:30 which is fine, but why does my sleeping habit freak out with that little bit of caffeine?

Anyone else have this happen?
 
I had a double espresso this morning and I regret having a Coke Zero for lunch. My chest is thumping like crazy.
 
Short of drinking it really close to bed it doesn't seem to matter whether I drink caffeine or not. Then again sometimes I get uncontrollably sleepy after drinking energy drinks. I always drink diet though so no sugar int he equation.
 
Caffeine tolerance. It wears off after a week with no caffeine intake, but a few days consuming caffeinated beverages will make you mildly tolerant/dependant, such that you need to up your intake to get the same buzz.

I am the guru of caffeine.
Used to work the night shift at a lab.

The level of caffeine in soda (esp. Mountain Dew, which is practically a light energy drink) is enough to keep you up if you have it anywhere from 4 to 7 hours before going to sleep. Green tea (below 30mg caffeine average per cup, IIRC) is about the only caffeinated beverage I feel safe drinking before going to bed if I need sleep. Soda, black tea, coffee are a definite "no" 5 hours before bedtime for me if I've let my tolerance slip by going a few days or week without coffee or energy drinks.
 
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ShawnD1 said:
Liver failure.
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I don't drink alcohol...but I used to drink a lot of pop...like never been off the caffeine train since I was very young.

This isn't the first time I have been off caffeine for a few weeks and tried some more pop, same shit happens every time....I cannot sleep until super late.
 
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At this point I dont get any of the highs. I do get a wicked headache if I dont get enough coffee. Not sure how anyone that works night and day shifts does it without caffiene.
 
mattpegher said:
At this point I dont get any of the highs. I do get a wicked headache if I dont get enough coffee. Not sure how anyone that works night and day shifts does it without caffiene.
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Ah, the caffeine withdrawl headache. Sucks, and usually kicks in hard the second day after regular consumption of coffee or energy drinks stops.
The lethargy is pretty bad, too.
 
Crono said:
Ah, the caffeine withdrawl headache. Sucks, and usually kicks in hard the second day after regular consumption of coffee or energy drinks stops.
The lethargy is pretty bad, too.
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I don't get the headaches myself, I just get the inability to sleep if I have caffeine, after not having it for a few weeks.
 
ViviTheMage said:
I don't get the headaches myself, I just get the inability to sleep if I have caffeine, after not having it for a few weeks.
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Yeah, that's fairly normal

Usually people only get withdrawal headaches if they have several hundred milligrams of caffeine a day regularly and then stop... which is several cans of soda, a couple cups/drinks of coffee (even less for nasty Starbucks, which is caffeine packed since they use terrible beans), or an energy drink or two.
 
Crono said:
Ah, the caffeine withdrawl headache. Sucks, and usually kicks in hard the second day after regular consumption of coffee or energy drinks stops.
The lethargy is pretty bad, too.
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Second day? How about if I dont get a cup by 10am. Of course I drink about 64 ounces of coffee/day. More when I work nights. At this point the soda doesnt even count. Havent gone a day without coffee in 15 years. Can you say addict?
 
ViviTheMage said:
I don't drink alcohol...but I used to drink a lot of pop...like never been off the caffeine train since I was very young.

This isn't the first time I have been off caffeine for a few weeks and tried some more pop, same shit happens every time....I cannot sleep until super late.
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Most liver failure is caused by acetaminophen. Do you take pain killers on a regular basis?
 
mattpegher said:
Second day? How about if I dont get a cup by 10am. Of course I drink about 64 ounces of coffee/day. More when I work nights. At this point the soda doesnt even count. Havent gone a day without coffee in 15 years. Can you say addict?
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No wonder, that's nearly Roosevelt territory (interesting fact: Theodore Roosevelt is the originator of the phrase, "good to the last drop").
 
Crono said:
No wonder, that's nearly Roosevelt territory (interesting fact: Theodore Roosevelt is the originator of the phrase, "good to the last drop").
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Like any drug, caffiene loses its potency after repeated use. At this point I can have a cup and still go to bed.
 
mattpegher said:
Like any drug, caffiene loses its potency after repeated use. At this point I can have a cup and still go to bed.
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I know. The downside is that you aren't getting the full effect of caffeine at that point... you need that much just to maintain 🙁.

I love coffee as much as anyone, but it's not good for my stomach in those quantities. Heartburn and reflux kick in for me if I drink more than 3 or 4 cups a day.
 
ShawnD1 said:
Most liver failure is caused by acetaminophen. Do you take pain killers on a regular basis?
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I take nothing, never have...not even when I broke my arm, or got stitches, haha. I also never drank alcohol or coffee, nasty stuff!

I used to drink pop.
 
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If it has really drastic effect, you were probably having way too much.
I usually have at least 1 or 2 coffee during the day and occasionally I'll have a Coke or two as well. When I don't, all seems well. If I do, I can still sleep that night. It just doesn't seem to have a dramatic effect on me. If I drink too much caffeine, I get the jitters. I try to stay well away from that limit though.
 
I don't even really feel the effects of caffeine. I can drink an energy drink and still fall asleep an hour later.

I'm not too addicted to it either. I can go days without caffeine. Occasionally I'll get a small headache, but nothing I can't ignore.
 
Crono said:
I know. The downside is that you aren't getting the full effect of caffeine at that point... you need that much just to maintain 🙁.

I love coffee as much as anyone, but it's not good for my stomach in those quantities. Heartburn and reflux kick in for me if I drink more than 3 or 4 cups a day.
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I'm absolutely addicted to caffeine (pills are way too fucking convenient!).

I need to seriously cut back (gradually one day at a time, until I hit zero intake)... but I fear the whole process. My job is a security guard with two shifts that start at 5:00 am so I'm up between 3:30 and 4:00, and I sit/stand in a small shack of sorts. Cutting back on caffeine will make it easier to fall asleep earlier the night before, but less caffeine will seriously make it much more likely I end up falling asleep on the job. :|

That I dread the feeling less than par until my body adjusts.

You people who have cut back/quit, convince me, somehow! 😀
 
First your going to have to explain wtf "pop" is.

Caffeine is a fairly easy drug to kick with relatively minor withdrawals.

My tolerance to caffeine is ridiculous anymore. It doesn't matter if I drink a 2 liter of crazy caffeine coffee washed down with 30 nodoz. I'll go right to sleep. Wish I could afford blow some days.
 
OP,
You grew a resistance to caffeine, which wore off when you abstained. So when you drank that Mexican coke, it hit you hard. This is akin to forming more of a resistance when drink hard liquors.

BTW, try Yerba Mate tea bags at Trader Joes, etc. It'll give you a higher energy high than caffeine, but without the jitters. It's a smooth high and it's what South American wholeheartedly choose to drink instead of coffee in their coffee-rich countries.
 
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