CA state schools

[DarrelSPowers]

So... I've been thinking about grad school recently, and I've read that CA state schools have some of the best Business, Law, and Engineering grad programs out there. Since I'm trying to decide on which one to go for CA seems like a good place to go.

I guess what I was wondering is how you go about getting state tuition instead of out of state? Is there a requirement of # years or months lived there, or do you just need to or just register your address or something?

Also... I know UC Berkeley is an awesome school, but what about the other UC's?

 

[rudder]

Just use an address in Mexico and tell them you are not a citizen of the U.S.

 

[Jschmuck2]

Originally posted by: rudder
Just use an address in Mexico and tell them you are not a citizen of the U.S.

Hey, Tennesse called, they want you to go back to shoveling shit or whatever it is you do in your backwater state.

Anyhow: All of the UCs are good. Some are ranked higher than others but all are very solid schools. I think your question about being elligible for in-state tuition should probably answer itself: You have to be a resident of California. Check any UC's website, it will tell you.

 

[uclaLabrat]

Are you talking Ca state schools or UC's? There's 2 systems: State schools are teaching focused and offer only masters (with some exceptions). UC's are research-oriented and offer professional and PhD's, with varying programs between the campuses. Most of them are quite solid, State schools included. UC's are pretty damn good, and their grad or professional programs are generally well regarded. UCLA med and UCSF, UCI, UCSD, are all good med schools. I think UCLA's law and business are damn good as well. Not sure how the fare in regards to engineering.

Residence requirements for either system I believe are proven 1 year residence in-state, then you get in-state tuition.

 

[DarrelSPowers]

Originally posted by: uclaLabrat
Are you talking Ca state schools or UC's? There's 2 systems: State schools are teaching focused and offer only masters (with some exceptions). UC's are research-oriented and offer professional and PhD's, with varying programs between the campuses. Most of them are quite solid, State schools included. UC's are pretty damn good, and their grad or professional programs are generally well regarded. UCLA med and UCSF, UCI, UCSD, are all good med schools. I think UCLA's law and business are damn good as well. Not sure how the fare in regards to engineering.

Residence requirements for either system I believe are proven 1 year residence in-state, then you get in-state tuition.

Thanks man, this was what I was wondering about... the time requirement mostly...

 

[GoSharks]

What program are you looking at?

 

[BoomerD]

From the website of UC Davis:
http://registrar.ucdavis.edu/U...ppendix/residency.html

Who is a Resident?
"If you are an adult student (18 years of age or older) you may establish residence for tuition purposes in California if: (1) you are a U.S. citizen; (2) you are a permanent resident or other immigrant; or (3) you are a nonimmigrant who is not precluded from establishing a domicile in the U.S. Nonimmigrants who are not precluded from establishing a domicile in the U.S. include those who hold visas of the following types: A, E, G, H-1, H-4, I, K, L, N, NATO, O-1, O-3, R, or V. To establish residence you must be physically present in California for more than one year and you must have come here with the intent to make California your home as opposed to coming to this state to go to school."

 

[LongCoolMother]

I currently go to UC Berkeley as an undergrad (Computer Science). You need to be an in-state resident to pay in-state tuition fees, I think its hovering somewhere in the upper $7k range right now for the year, and set to continue to rise. Regardless, its still an excellent deal compared to private institutions.

While some are more prestigious than others, all the UCs are excellent, top-tier, research universities.

State universities (SJSU, Cal Poly:SLO/Pom., etc. etc.) are apart of a different system. Their tuition is even lower, something like $3-4k last time I checked.

 

[oiprocs]

This is for Cal State universities, not UC. (Cal State Bakersfield, San Diego State, etc. -- NOT UCSD, UCLA, etc.)

PDF For Establishing Residency

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: oiprocs
This is for Cal State universities, not UC. (Cal State Bakersfield, San Diego State, etc. -- NOT UCSD, UCLA, etc.)

PDF For Establishing Residency

That actually applies to ALL Kahleeforneeya universities, colleges, and community colleges.
(not private colleges. They may have their own residency requirements)

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: DarrelSPowers
So... I've been thinking about grad school recently, and I've read that CA state schools have some of the best Business, Law, and Engineering grad programs out there. Since I'm trying to decide on which one to go for CA seems like a good place to go.

I guess what I was wondering is how you go about getting state tuition instead of out of state? Is there a requirement of # years or months lived there, or do you just need to or just register your address or something?

Also... I know UC Berkeley is an awesome school, but what about the other UC's?

the requirement is 1 year.

As for the hierarchy (in very general terms):

1. Cal
2. UCLA
3. UCSD
4. it doesn't matter all that much after the big 3

 

[cirrrocco]

so how do they know I have been living at a said address for atleast an year? I moved to cali about 8 months ago and want to go to school as well.

 

[shopbruin]

Originally posted by: DarrelSPowers
So... I've been thinking about grad school recently, and I've read that CA state schools have some of the best Business, Law, and Engineering grad programs out there. Since I'm trying to decide on which one to go for CA seems like a good place to go.

I guess what I was wondering is how you go about getting state tuition instead of out of state? Is there a requirement of # years or months lived there, or do you just need to or just register your address or something?

Also... I know UC Berkeley is an awesome school, but what about the other UC's?

Just note that the Biz and Law schools at the UC's are expensive. When they come to raise tuition, they jack up the "professional school" fee they charge the business/law/medical/dental schools first. Hubby was paying I think 25k/year in tuition last year at UCLA law, and that's for in-state.

Engineering isn't as expensive, comparatively, although tuition will go up again next year.

 

[Rumpltzer]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: DarrelSPowers
So... I've been thinking about grad school recently, and I've read that CA state schools have some of the best Business, Law, and Engineering grad programs out there. Since I'm trying to decide on which one to go for CA seems like a good place to go.

I guess what I was wondering is how you go about getting state tuition instead of out of state? Is there a requirement of # years or months lived there, or do you just need to or just register your address or something?

Also... I know UC Berkeley is an awesome school, but what about the other UC's?

the requirement is 1 year.

As for the hierarchy (in very general terms):

1. Cal
2. UCLA
3. UCSD
4. it doesn't matter all that much after the big 3

The "hierarchy" ranking matters a lot on what you plan to study, and that's why I'm thinking the OP must be in junior high school or something. Who seriously considers grad school and asks the equivalent of, "Hey, I hear CA grad schools are good for Business, Law, and Engineering; are they?"

Also, engineering grad school is free. I've never met an engineer who paid for grad school. Never.

And do people who care about WHERE they get their law degree or MBA really care about how much it will cost? Isn't it more a matter of where you can get in rather than what you can afford for law and business grad school?

 

[jadinolf]

Originally posted by: rudder
Just use an address in Mexico and tell them you are not a citizen of the U.S.

:thumbsup:

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: Corporate Thug

Originally posted by: DarrelSPowers
So... I've been thinking about grad school recently, and I've read that CA state schools have some of the best Business, Law, and Engineering grad programs out there. Since I'm trying to decide on which one to go for CA seems like a good place to go.

I guess what I was wondering is how you go about getting state tuition instead of out of state? Is there a requirement of # years or months lived there, or do you just need to or just register your address or something?

Also... I know UC Berkeley is an awesome school, but what about the other UC's?

the requirement is 1 year.

As for the hierarchy (in very general terms):

1. Cal
2. UCLA
3. UCSD
4. it doesn't matter all that much after the big 3

Depends I suppose? UCSB has a terrific materials science graduate program. I would love to go there if I can't get into Cal, but then again given my GPA, I must be dreaming to get in to either school.

SD will rock for bioengineering or molecular bio. UCLA is your all-around school. It's never going to be top 3 quality, but it will be around top 10/15 for a lot of programs. Cal excels in certain programs like English, engineering, business, economics, but it's not going to be as well rounded as we do lack a med school. It is very true that CA state schools are some of the best in the nation, and I guarantee you the UC system kills any state school system in the US. Even the CSU system is reputable (Cal Poly and SJSU are excellent engineering schools).

I personally think that if you're coming out of state, really only the top 3 matter if you're going to be throwing down $40k/year. With residence, it's actually quite reasonable although tuition shot up the ass while I was at Cal due to budget cuts. Gosh, I even looked at the 02 and 03 rates before our budget crisis, and damn were the fees cheap.

 

[Rumpltzer]

Originally posted by: DLeRium
Depends I suppose? UCSB has a terrific materials science graduate program. I would love to go there if I can't get into Cal, but then again given my GPA, I must be dreaming to get in to either school.

UCSB certainly rocks the grad materials and physics and even the ee if you're into high-speed circuit design or semiconductors (non-silicon). UCSB sucks as an undergrad school. It's also a shock to go there if you're coming from a large univeristy.

If you're into materials and/or you have a serious interest in compoud semiconductors, you should really apply. Kroemer is pretty much done and I expect that Gossard won't be around too long either but it would be great to work for him. If you care to have a research advisor who WILL receive the Nobel Prize, Nakamura is your man.

Can you tell where my interests lie?

 

[GoSharks]

Originally posted by: Rumpltzer
Also, engineering grad school is free. I've never met an engineer who paid for grad school. Never.

People certainly pay for Masters programs. I've never heard of anybody paying for a PhD in engineering though. I'm currently getting paid to get my PhD in bioengineering.

 

[Rumpltzer]

Originally posted by: GoSharks

Originally posted by: Rumpltzer
Also, engineering grad school is free. I've never met an engineer who paid for grad school. Never.

People certainly pay for Masters programs. I've never heard of anybody paying for a PhD in engineering though. I'm currently getting paid to get my PhD in bioengineering.

Okay. I haven't met a lot of people who just went in for a masters. I've met people who come in to get a PhD and were asked to take their masters and leave, but by then it was already paid for.

That's a big hint for all you aspiring engineering undergrads: even if you only plan to stay for your master, apply as if you plan to get a PhD. You'll get better consideration during admissions, you'll get better funding opportunities, and you might actually like it enough to stay!

The deal is that profs are looking for bodies (and minds) to do the work that needs to get done. To invest in a masters student who will be mostly taking classes and not working in the lab is a waste. They'd rather put the money into a PhD who will stick around for longer and won't be tied up in classes after the screening exam.

 

[LtPage1]

Getting residency in CA for students is a bitch, but like with any bureaucratic system, persistence and sucking up will get you places.

 

[ed21x]

Originally posted by: Rumpltzer

Originally posted by: GoSharks

Originally posted by: Rumpltzer
Also, engineering grad school is free. I've never met an engineer who paid for grad school. Never.

People certainly pay for Masters programs. I've never heard of anybody paying for a PhD in engineering though. I'm currently getting paid to get my PhD in bioengineering.

Okay. I haven't met a lot of people who just went in for a masters. I've met people who come in to get a PhD and were asked to take their masters and leave, but by then it was already paid for.

That's a big hint for all you aspiring engineering undergrads: even if you only plan to stay for your master, apply as if you plan to get a PhD. You'll get better consideration during admissions, you'll get better funding opportunities, and you might actually like it enough to stay!

The deal is that profs are looking for bodies (and minds) to do the work that needs to get done. To invest in a masters student who will be mostly taking classes and not working in the lab is a waste. They'd rather put the money into a PhD who will stick around for longer and won't be tied up in classes after the screening exam.

truer words have never been spoken. always apply as a PhD student, and then if you decide that it is too much, get the masters. I am currently contemplating either PhD or masters in my current program.

And for engineering in Cali:
Berkeley, UCSD, Cal Poly SLO are the top three public Universities for engineering.
UCLA isn't very focused on engineering, and neither are the other UC's.