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C-Net compares Athlon XP, P4 - "Winner tough to declare"

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http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-7462810.html

"Some called it a better value. Most testers, however, said it depends on the application. The 2GHz Pentium 4 showed higher performance on tests related to 3D graphics, such as the game "Quake 3." But Athlon XP 1800+ excelled at productivity applications, such as word processing and e-mail."

Although true, "faster word processing and email" seems misworded to me. Not to mention them not even touching on any game besides Quake3 which the P4 took by 3.9fps.

"This is "not a whole big shift from what the Pentium 4/Athlon positioning has been previously," said Dean McCarron, principal analyst at Mercury Research, which published results of its tests on its site The Meter. "The 'Quake 3' results for Pentium 4 have always been much stronger, while Athlon has traditionally done better on business" applications."

The Meter eh?
http://www.themeter.com/processor/disclose1500.shtml

They used AMD760 despite the fact that the SiS735 surpassed the 760 months ago. All tests were on 98SE, take that for what you will.

"An Intel representative declined to comment directly on AMD's claims, but stated, "The Pentium 4 is the highest performance desktop processor."

It's expected that a company will defend their products, AMD does the same, but the benchmarks indicate otherwise. That is of course, for now. I have no delusions as to the Athlon always dominating, the P4 was ahead for a matter of months.

Overall the story seems to be written from the mainstream persepective, never quoting anything too technical, I guess that's C-Net's place.
And before anyone else mentions it, yes Intel owns part of Cnet but I dont think that it influences articles.
 
See this is what I hate. Some review's are done using the almost year old AMD 760 chipset, when SiS 735 and KT266A/nForce provide 5-15% better performance. It's like using 845 rather than Sis 645/i850 on P4. You should use the fastest chipset for each CPU, unless there is other issues (stability for example).
 


<< See this is what I hate. Some review's are done using the almost year old AMD 760 chipset, when SiS 735 and KT266A/nForce provide 5-15% better performance. It's like using 845 rather than Sis 645/i850 on P4. You should use the fastest chipset for each CPU, unless there is other issues (stability for example). >>



This is why Cnet SUCKS.


Currently, the Athlon XP at its highest level crushes Intel's flagship.
 
Sites like CNet/ZDNet and magazines like PCWorld etc.. all pander to the advertisers. Notice how Dell always gets top marks depite the fact other PC are clearly faster and a better value? Nothing wrong with a Dell but I find it strange how these magazines never seem to do anything to hurt Dell's feelings.

Most ofthe writers are just that writers. it seems many lack even basic tech knowledge and often fall in the same pitfalls as the average consumer. They know what they read in newspapers but are not on the cutting edge.

Windogg
 
This issue with the chipset used goes further than the Magazines. If you remember, Tom's 2GHz P4 Review showed much different results when compared to Anand's. And you know what? You guessed it! Dr. Pabst too used AMD 760 when SIS 735/KT266A were clearly faster.
 


<< This issue with the chipset used goes further than the Magazines. If you remember, Tom's 2GHz P4 Review showed much different results when compared to Anand's. And you know what? You guessed it! Dr. Pabst too used AMD 760 when SIS 735/KT266A were clearly faster. >>



I'm with you on the different results but I think Tom is the LAST guy to pander to Intel considering his past with AMD.
 
"They used AMD760 despite the fact that the SiS735 surpassed the 760 months ago. All tests were on 98SE, take that for what you will."

And how many boards using these competing chipsets were available when this review was probably conducted? There's nothing wrong, sneaky or whatever limiting product reviews to products the consumer can actually buy. From certain perspectives it actually makes a lot more sense. How long ago were the Radeon 8500 previews? Still waiting for it to be released. Nforce? Still not here. KT266A? Just barely hitting the channel now. In a number of ways is it far more fair to compare only released products as opposed to released products to future products.

Just to add, I don't recall seeing any available SIS boards either. I don't care when the initial reviews for it were. Until I can buy a product using it, it doesn't beat the Intel VX chipset from 5 years ago.
 


<< "They used AMD760 despite the fact that the SiS735 surpassed the 760 months ago. All tests were on 98SE, take that for what you will." And how many boards using these competing chipsets were available when this review was probably conducted? There's nothing wrong, sneaky or whatever limiting product reviews to products the consumer can actually buy. From certain perspectives it actually makes a lot more sense. How long ago were the Radeon 8500 previews? Still waiting for it to be released. Nforce? Still not here. KT266A? Just barely hitting the channel now. In a number of ways is it far more fair to compare only released products as opposed to released products to future products. Just to add, I don't recall seeing any available SIS boards either. I don't care when the initial reviews for it were. Until I can buy a product using it, it doesn't beat the Intel VX chipset from 5 years ago. >>




The ECS K7S5A with the SiS735 chipset has been available since August I beleive. ECS is the #2 motheboard manufacturer in the world by numbers. I can see why they didnt use any KT266A boards (which are currently for sale) because they are relativly new, but theres no excuse not to use the SiS735, it's readily available for $62.
 
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