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Bystander effect... sign of our times.

How can the bystander effect be a sign of our times? It's been shown time and time again that when you have a large group of people, there is a diffusion of responsibility when it comes to stopping something like this. Everyone expects someone else to act. It's really not indicative of someone being douchey or not (though, it would trend with all the MYOB posts that come when people ask about interfering in someone else's affairs).
 
Contrived situations rarely appear genuine. People's instincts tell them that something is not as it immediately appears to be. For instance, the "abductor" did not run away with the girl, he just stood there holding her arm. It would take at least a few moments for someone to properly assess the situation.

The person who put this all together was not intelligent enough to create an authentic atmosphere. I find it irresponsible to judge human behavior in a contrived environment.
 
chusteczka said:
Contrived situations rarely appear genuine. People's instincts tell them that something is not as it immediately appears to be. For instance, the "abductor" did not run away with the girl, he just stood there holding her arm. It would take at least a few moments for someone to properly assess the situation.

The person who put this all together was not intelligent enough to create an authentic atmosphere. I find it irresponsible to judge human behavior in a contrived environment.
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People watched with a genuine look of concern, but kept walking.
 
Juddog said:
People watched with a genuine look of concern, but kept walking.
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I don't think they tested it enough either... the first one was a kid and one of the others was a woman. They could have called for help but I don't think they could have physically taken on the kidnapper alone and probably felt that way. It wasn't until it was 2 on 1 when something went down and even they spent a few secs looking at each other before they realize they had the advantage. You could be thinking "what if the guy had a gun?".

Another thing, the test is flawd in that the bystander effect requires that there be a good amount of people around the kidnapper and only then if no one heeded the girls call would the result be valid imo.
 
chusteczka said:
Contrived situations rarely appear genuine. People's instincts tell them that something is not as it immediately appears to be. For instance, the "abductor" did not run away with the girl, he just stood there holding her arm. It would take at least a few moments for someone to properly assess the situation.

The person who put this all together was not intelligent enough to create an authentic atmosphere. I find it irresponsible to judge human behavior in a contrived environment.
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Not irresponsible, just foolish and pointless like 'reality' TV and managers who set up employees to fail in order to gauge their judgment.
 
chusteczka said:
Contrived situations rarely appear genuine. People's instincts tell them that something is not as it immediately appears to be. For instance, the "abductor" did not run away with the girl, he just stood there holding her arm. It would take at least a few moments for someone to properly assess the situation.

The person who put this all together was not intelligent enough to create an authentic atmosphere. I find it irresponsible to judge human behavior in a contrived environment.
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you are correct, they set this up wrong, should have had the guy drag the girl like he was going to a van or something, not just stand there. That being said, having the girl saying "You are not my dad" over and over is unacceptable for people just to walk by and not take action.
 
glenn beck said:
you are correct, they set this up wrong, should have had the guy drag the girl like he was going to a van or something, not just stand there. That being said, having the girl saying "You are not my dad" over and over is unacceptable for people just to walk by and not take action.
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Maybe she's adopted and trying to be cliche 😛
 
The girls acting and cries were unconvincing. It doesn't surprise me that people ignored her thinking it was just a family squabble. Wouldn't a girl that age really be crying hysterically if it was real? Before we condemn humanity as callous maybe we should talk to the people who ignored the situation for why they did so.
 
i do remember a british show that had a little girl seeming a bit lost sitting in front of a store or whatever, all the men just walked by lol. risk of looking like a pedo was too great to help.
 
I would have moved in closer to analyze the situation a little longer. Possibly question the girl if everything was ok. I agree that it didn't look like a kidnapping. My first thought would be step dad, and bitter step child.
 
0roo0roo said:
i do remember a british show that had a little girl seeming a bit lost sitting in front of a store or whatever, all the men just walked by lol. risk of looking like a pedo was too great to help.
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My daughter is almost always with me. I'd have left her to watch the "lost" child, and gotten management. If she wasn't with me, I'd hang out with the "lost" child until someone came along that could do something. I also have my cell phone most times. It's easy enough to call the cops or store management.
 
Here in FL its legal to use your concealed weapon to stop certain felonies. I believe kidknapping would fall under that catagory. Would be nice to see this actors staring down the barrel of a .45 - Although I am sure they purposely do this in places people can't carry weapons for this exact reason. It would be interesting though to see if people react differen't in states/cities where they are allowed to defend themselves and others legally with their weapons.
 
lxskllr said:
I would have moved in closer to analyze the situation a little longer. Possibly question the girl if everything was ok. I agree that it didn't look like a kidnapping. My first thought would be step dad, and bitter step child.
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That explains the situation better than a child abduction.
 
While the situation was contrived, time and time again I have read people here say that they would not intervene in situations. "What if the person has a gun/knife, etc".
It is you duty as a man to know how to defend yourself in those situations and it is your duty as a man to help someone that is in imminent danger.
 
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