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Buying New Motherboard/Processor

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Coldkilla

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Ok. For 230 dollars (Shipping Inc), what could I get out of this for a motherboard/processor. Is 939 better or is 754 better?

I found a AMD 3700+ Processor for $160.00 (Socket 754) and another AMD 3500+ Processor for about $185.00. Now I dont know the difference between the two. Does it really matter if its the speed that counts? I dont know the first thing about motherboards so if you could all fill me in.

Also I have:
2 Giel 2x 1GB RAM (2GB)
AGP Nividia 6800GT 256mb - big video card! ~ Takes up a lotta space.

Anyways, any information appreciated. Suggestions welcome! Thanks again

 
Go with the 939 socket. At this point the you don't hardly save any money going with 754.

I'm skeptical about whether the prices you posted are correct.
 
If you do not plan on OCing or upgrading to dual core in the near future, the s754 3700+ would be the best route.

If you'd like to OC &/or would like to upgrade to an X2 sometime soon, i'd recommend a s939 Venice 3200+ or 3000+, or perhaps a s939 144/146 Opteron since all those CPUs will nearly always OC past the speed of that s754 3700+ (though it could be lightly OCed too).
 
Originally posted by: orangat
Go with the 939 socket. At this point the you don't hardly save any money going with 754.

I'm skeptical about whether the prices you posted are correct.
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Yeah. Almost everyone has moved from the 754 to 939. Dual channel, processor support (they dont make any 754s anymore), better performance, and cooler.
 
Just get a socket 939 setup. You're really not saving anything in the long run by skimping on a socket 754 system now. Also, on such a tight budget, it really doesn't make sense to be looking at 3500+ amd 3700+ chips...it just doesn't leave enough over for a mainboard, and skimping on the mainboard is bad. Better to get a lower-end chip, a better mainboard, and then just overclock the chip to 3500+/3700+ speeds. I'd recommend these:

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537
Mainboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130491


EDIT: oops, just re-read your post and saw that you have an AGP card...disregard the mainboard recommendation.
 
Originally posted by: Some1ne
Just get a socket 939 setup. You're really not saving anything in the long run by skimping on a socket 754 system now. Also, on such a tight budget, it really doesn't make sense to be looking at 3500+ amd 3700+ chips...it just doesn't leave enough over for a mainboard, and skimping on the mainboard is bad. Better to get a lower-end chip, a better mainboard, and then just overclock the chip to 3500+/3700+ speeds. I'd recommend these:

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537
Mainboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130491
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u kinda did skimp on your mobo choice, although it's not bad. the 3700 is priced correctly at $160 for the s754. awesome cpu, i was about to get it a year ago but i just saved up enough for a comp so i'm going the 939 route. i'd go with a cheap 939 system for now. get the ASRock motherboard (it's $69 on newegg but i'm sure u can get it for $60 if u search around) and a s939 3000 venice. that'll be less than your budget for sure
 
o yea and the ASRock got some pretty good reviews. go to the motherboard reviews that Anandtech has done and check out the ASRock. it's up there with the rest at like half the price
 
I just noticed that he has an AGP card...which board was it that's socket 939 and supports both AGP and PCI-E? I think that would be the best choice if it fits the budget.
 
Disregard what everyone just told you, and follow this simple guideline.

You = Gamer/Wanna OC/May wanna go X2 route in a year or 2

Get = Venice 3200 for $133, add Thermalright SP9, Nforce 4 board, 1gb Patriot DDR400LL ram and you got a 2.4ghz machine easily.

or

You = Gamer/Don't wanna OC/always prefer to upgrade both CPU/Board

Get = Clawhammer 3700. This thing runs at 2.4ghz and has 1mb cache to makeup for the lack of Dual Channel. Add an Asus or DFI Nforce 4 board you got PCI-E. (MSI has one with both AGP and PCI-E)


/End.

BTW if you need a PSU, get a Fortrow AX450 for $50 and be done with it.
 
Originally posted by: Lyfer
You = Gamer/Don't wanna OC/always prefer to upgrade both CPU/Board

Get = Clawhammer 3700. This thing runs at 2.4ghz and has 1mb cache to makeup for the lack of Dual Channel. Add an Asus or DFI Nforce 4 board you got PCI-E. (MSI has one with both AGP and PCI-E)


/End.

BTW if you need a PSU, get a Fortrow AX450 for $50 and be done with it.
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something's a tad wrong with this...the clawhammer is a socket 754 cpu....
 
ok ok. A Venice 3200 for $133? Where did you find it that cheap?

Also then I am looking for an AGP motherboard? I'd assume so since I have a AGP Video card. At which point I am starting to get confused with all these suggestions. I purchased the Fortrow AX450 and I?m waiting to receive it.

Next is the processor and motherboard. From what I can safely say, I need a socket 939. Currently I have an AMD 3000+ but since my computer don't even turn on, I'm not sure that's the problem im having. No matter, if the processor isnt broke as well, I'll sell that.

Would I notice any performance difference between a S#939 AMD 3000+ and a 754 3000+? Im not saying that?s what I have to get I?m just wondering. I?m not quite sure I want to overclock, I hear that can ruin your processor at a faster rate.. and I really am getting sick of spending all this money on my computer lol, I'm only 17 and still in high school. The Clawhammer 3700 is wayy too expensive for my budget so that wont work out too well.

After the PSU I got, I am running at about $200 for a processor and motherboard. Perhaps 280.00 or 300 if I my AMD 3000+ is still in working order (Ill know as soon as my PSU gets here from UPS), I'll sell that for some chunk change.

So this Socket 939 ~ ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 and a processor.. ooh hows this AMD 3000+ 939. Would it be worth the whole $200.00+ it if my current processor (AMD 3000+ 754) and motherboard (MSI FIS2R K8T800) are in working order? Once again, i'll know they are working once I get my psu delivered.

Thx so far for the help.
 
Would I notice any performance difference between a S#939 AMD 3000+ and a 754 3000+?
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Probably not. I migrated from a socket 754 3000+ to a socket 939 3000+ about a year ago and at stock settings, they are about the same (although the socket 939 board let me overclock to 2.46 GHz, while the 754 could only go to 2.15 GHz, and overclocked the 939 blows away the 754). The main reason to go socket 939 is upgradability (that's why I switched anyways, and I will shortly be popping in a 3800+ X2, so for me it was very much worth going socket 939). I wouldn't worry about overclocking shortening the life of your components, but that's something that's up to you.

So this Socket 939 ~ ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 and a processor.. ooh hows this AMD 3000+ 939. Would it be worth the whole $200.00+ it if my current processor (AMD 3000+ 754) and motherboard (MSI FIS2R K8T800) are in working order?
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It depends, unless you overclock, you won't see an immediate gain (incidentally, the FIS2R is the exact board I migrated from when I went from socket 754 to 939...I replaced it with the MSI Neo4 Platinum and am very happy with it). But, the ASRock will give you the option of switching the PCI-E graphics the next time you upgrade your video card, and the option of going dual-core in the future, and it will also overclock better than the FIS2R. Mostly what you'd be getting for your money is upgradability in the future, and overclocking in the near-term if you're willing to go that route.
 
Hows this setup:
Venice 3200 Processor
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MSI K8N Neo4-F Socket 939</a>

Now if I can find the motherboard somewhere else, thats cheaper cool. Otherwise, is this a good choice?

Total: 226.03 ~Tolerable Price
 
That depends, do you want to keep your 6800GT AGP graphics card? If so (and I'm pretty sure that you do), then you cannot use that board, as it only supports PCI-E graphics. This is why I changed my recommendation to the ASRock, it'll let you keep your AGP card, and then replace it with a PCI-E version when you're ready (and it's cheaper too). Good CPU choice though, although note that since it's the OEM version, you're also going to need to supply/purchase a HSF for it.
 
So would it be worth the $210 dollars?

Lets say I have no problems with my MSI FIS2R K8T800 motherboard and my AMD 3000+ processor. Would anyone recommend spending 210 dollars for a 939 motherboard (above) and the 3200 processor? Or would it be better to wait it out and get a little more funding to make it worth the while? Usually saving up is the way to go, but as it stands now.. is it worth the $210?
 
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