buying a 60+ lcd or dlp projection

[ATLien247]

Screw front/rear projection...

Tell him to get one of these!

 

[Crazee]

I have always been partial to Mitsubishi Big Screens. I just replaced my last one with this

You might want to take a look at one of the 62" Models. They have three different ones to choose from depending on what features you want. The pictures on the Mitsubishi's generally receive some of the top ratings.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

I wish I could afford the Samsung with TI's new xHD3 DMD chip, I :heart: 1080p

 

[yhelothar]

RPLCDTV are comparable to DLPs. I went shopping for one before and the image quality were pretty similar. The only gripe about the RPLCD is that the blacks aren't very black. The DLP has its own problems though, such as the rainbow effect and clayman effect.

 

[Falloutboy]

Originally posted by: Crazee
I have always been partial to Mitsubishi Big Screens. I just replaced my last one with this

You might want to take a look at one of the 62" Models. They have three different ones to choose from depending on what features you want. The pictures on the Mitsubishi's generally receive some of the top ratings.

only downside is mitsu still is only making CRT based screens. while they have thier pluses they still suffer from burnin

 

[vshah]

the sony lcd rptvs are nice. cheaper than the panasonics i think. they also come with a built on OTA hd tuner.

 

[Crazee]

Originally posted by: Falloutboy

Originally posted by: Crazee
I have always been partial to Mitsubishi Big Screens. I just replaced my last one with this

You might want to take a look at one of the 62" Models. They have three different ones to choose from depending on what features you want. The pictures on the Mitsubishi's generally receive some of the top ratings.

only downside is mitsu still is only making CRT based screens. while they have thier pluses they still suffer from burnin

Thats not true. They have a line of DLPs of which mine is LCoS. The three 62" models I was referring to are DLP

 

[w00t]

i have been at AVS forums. its hard to navigate around the forums, i made a thread in rear projection they didnt have like t.v in genral or anything.

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: vshah
the sony lcd rptvs are nice. cheaper than the panasonics i think. they also come with a built on OTA hd tuner.

Sony RPTVs are much more expensive than Panasonic's. Not to mention they have lots of problems and they do not support their customers.

 

[w00t]

Dad and I went to BB i saw the panasonic its nice, someone else told me i should look at the 50in plasma. DLP and LCD look the same i think i couldnt tell a difference. at first i though dlp was brighter until i adjusted some settings in the menu on the lcd. what is so good about plasma. from what i saw plasma, lcd, and dlp were very close in image quality, britness, and color reproduction. is it true that plasma goes out very fast?

plasma pros and cons

dlp pros and cons

lcd pros and cons

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: w00t
Dad and I went to BB i saw the panasonic its nice, someone else told me i should look at the 50in plasma. DLP and LCD look the same i think i couldnt tell a difference. at first i though dlp was brighter until i adjusted some settings in the menu on the lcd. what is so good about plasma. from what i saw plasma, lcd, and dlp were very close in image quality, britness, and color reproduction. is it true that plasma goes out very fast?

plasma pros and cons

dlp pros and cons

lcd pros and cons

Plasma has great colour and contrast but an life of about 5 years before i will begin to die and is the most expensive. for a true 1080 hdtv plasma will cost 10-15k. There are cheper models but can only display lower resolutions 2-6k typical

LCD has latency issues, ghosting, and a backlight that fades away after time. Its only advantage is.... umm well none

DLP has colour and contrast ratios that rivel or beat plasma, is cheaper, has the potential to last the longest of the three, three chip models have the best picture. Its only disavantage is believed to be you have to replace a light bulb every 3-5 years

All of the above can operate at one resolution, don't give up on or overlook CRT for the best colour reproduction and pixel pitch The boob tube isdisplay that can show any resolution with out interpolation.ube.

 

[TechnoKid]

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: w00t
Dad and I went to BB i saw the panasonic its nice, someone else told me i should look at the 50in plasma. DLP and LCD look the same i think i couldnt tell a difference. at first i though dlp was brighter until i adjusted some settings in the menu on the lcd. what is so good about plasma. from what i saw plasma, lcd, and dlp were very close in image quality, britness, and color reproduction. is it true that plasma goes out very fast?

plasma pros and cons

dlp pros and cons

lcd pros and cons

Plasma has great colour and contrast but an life of about 5 years before i will begin to die and is the most expensive. for a true 1080 hdtv plasma will cost 10-15k. There are cheper models but can only display lower resolutions 2-6k typical

LCD has latency issues, ghosting, and a backlight that fades away after time. Its only advantage is.... umm well none

DLP has colour and contrast ratios that rivel or beat plasma, is cheaper, has the potential to last the longest of the three, three chip models have the best picture. Its only disavantage is believed to be you have to replace a light bulb every 3-5 years

All of the above can operate at one resolution, don't give up on or overlook CRT for the best colour reproduction and pixel pitch The boob tube isdisplay that can show any resolution with out interpolation.ube.

CRTs still have a maximum native resolution, even though they may be higher than a DLP chipset, they do not absolve to full 1920x1080i on resolution screen tests. There are very few displays, be it projection or otherwise that have a native resolution of 1920x1080 (or higher), which is what 1080i is.

The Texas Instruments xHD3 is the only DLP chip I know (thats being produced for mass consumer) of that has 1080p as its native. There are already projectors out there that can display 1080 and higher as its native, but those are $50,000 $100,000 digital cinema projectors; some don't even come with lenses and you also need a screen.

Now,
this is what I'd call a projector.

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: w00t
Dad and I went to BB i saw the panasonic its nice, someone else told me i should look at the 50in plasma. DLP and LCD look the same i think i couldnt tell a difference. at first i though dlp was brighter until i adjusted some settings in the menu on the lcd. what is so good about plasma. from what i saw plasma, lcd, and dlp were very close in image quality, britness, and color reproduction. is it true that plasma goes out very fast?

plasma pros and cons

dlp pros and cons

lcd pros and cons

Plasma has great colour and contrast but an life of about 5 years before i will begin to die and is the most expensive. for a true 1080 hdtv plasma will cost 10-15k. There are cheper models but can only display lower resolutions 2-6k typical

LCD has latency issues, ghosting, and a backlight that fades away after time. Its only advantage is.... umm well none

DLP has colour and contrast ratios that rivel or beat plasma, is cheaper, has the potential to last the longest of the three, three chip models have the best picture. Its only disavantage is believed to be you have to replace a light bulb every 3-5 years

All of the above can operate at one resolution, don't give up on or overlook CRT for the best colour reproduction and pixel pitch The boob tube isdisplay that can show any resolution with out interpolation.ube.

Those light bulbs will cost ya 4 figures as well

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: w00t
Dad and I went to BB i saw the panasonic its nice, someone else told me i should look at the 50in plasma. DLP and LCD look the same i think i couldnt tell a difference. at first i though dlp was brighter until i adjusted some settings in the menu on the lcd. what is so good about plasma. from what i saw plasma, lcd, and dlp were very close in image quality, britness, and color reproduction. is it true that plasma goes out very fast?

plasma pros and cons

dlp pros and cons

lcd pros and cons

Plasma has great colour and contrast but an life of about 5 years before i will begin to die and is the most expensive. for a true 1080 hdtv plasma will cost 10-15k. There are cheper models but can only display lower resolutions 2-6k typical

LCD has latency issues, ghosting, and a backlight that fades away after time. Its only advantage is.... umm well none

DLP has colour and contrast ratios that rivel or beat plasma, is cheaper, has the potential to last the longest of the three, three chip models have the best picture. Its only disavantage is believed to be you have to replace a light bulb every 3-5 years

All of the above can operate at one resolution, don't give up on or overlook CRT for the best colour reproduction and pixel pitch The boob tube isdisplay that can show any resolution with out interpolation.ube.

Those light bulbs will cost ya 4 figures as well

NO they won't. the tv will cost 4 figures but not the bulb.

 

[RadeonGuy]

I would go with a plasma for two reasons 1 they are thin. 2 With projection if you look at the TV at a angle you cant see the picture

 

[Aimster]

I have the 61" Samsung. It's greattttttttttt. I watch t.v too much on it though and people are noticing some quality loss. BS.

 

[TechnoKid]

Originally posted by: RadeonGuy
I would go with a plasma for two reasons 1 they are thin. 2 With projection if you look at the TV at a angle you cant see the picture

with a front projection this isn't really all that true.

DLP rear projection has a lot better vieweing angles than CRT does.

get a bigger projection if you can't see the screen from the sides!

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: w00t
Dad and I went to BB i saw the panasonic its nice, someone else told me i should look at the 50in plasma. DLP and LCD look the same i think i couldnt tell a difference. at first i though dlp was brighter until i adjusted some settings in the menu on the lcd. what is so good about plasma. from what i saw plasma, lcd, and dlp were very close in image quality, britness, and color reproduction. is it true that plasma goes out very fast?

plasma pros and cons

dlp pros and cons

lcd pros and cons

Plasma has great colour and contrast but an life of about 5 years before i will begin to die and is the most expensive. for a true 1080 hdtv plasma will cost 10-15k. There are cheper models but can only display lower resolutions 2-6k typical

LCD has latency issues, ghosting, and a backlight that fades away after time. Its only advantage is.... umm well none

DLP has colour and contrast ratios that rivel or beat plasma, is cheaper, has the potential to last the longest of the three, three chip models have the best picture. Its only disavantage is believed to be you have to replace a light bulb every 3-5 years

All of the above can operate at one resolution, don't give up on or overlook CRT for the best colour reproduction and pixel pitch The boob tube isdisplay that can show any resolution with out interpolation.ube.

BS.

LCDs do not have ghosting issues. I have not seen anyone complain about ghosting on LCD RPTVs. The biggest complaint is black level which is true however, DLPs have problems as well such as mosquito noise and clayfaces.

 

[thraxes]

I posted this as a comment to the CES article

While technically correct that the gases in Plasmas wear out with extended use, the effect is hardly noticeable.

I work in a TV studio where we use Pioneer Plasmas and professional grade Barco DLP-RP monitors. The Barcos and the Pioneers have both been in almost continuos use for at least 8-12 hrs every day since 2001. Guess what: The Plasmas are still way way brighter than the DLPs. In fact, the DLPs are probably going to be replaced soon by... plasmas.

Reasons:
1: Brightness - especially when the DLPs are visible on Camera and need to show graphs etc. they are very lacking. Plasmas are bright enough for this and more importantly - camera angle independent. This is even after running them 12 hrs/day for 4 years.
2: Cost of ownership. Run these machines over 12 hours a day EVERY DAY and the money starts to add up. The pro DLPs are slightly less expensive to buy than the Plasmas but need the lamp replaced every few months which is comes to a significant amount of money over the lifetime of the unit. Energy consumption of DLP vs. Plasma is identical at about 400W. It's mainly point 1 though that disqualifies RPTVs from the studio.

So all this talk about "Oh no... your plasma's going to be worthless in 5 years" is a load of bull. It will get darker, that is true. But after 5 years it will still be brighter than an RPTV and remember: I am talking about older model plasmas. The newer ones have a much longer phosphor life then those that the studio bought 4 years ago.

 

[merlocka]

Originally posted by: Doggiedog

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: w00t
Dad and I went to BB i saw the panasonic its nice, someone else told me i should look at the 50in plasma. DLP and LCD look the same i think i couldnt tell a difference. at first i though dlp was brighter until i adjusted some settings in the menu on the lcd. what is so good about plasma. from what i saw plasma, lcd, and dlp were very close in image quality, britness, and color reproduction. is it true that plasma goes out very fast?

plasma pros and cons

dlp pros and cons

lcd pros and cons

Plasma has great colour and contrast but an life of about 5 years before i will begin to die and is the most expensive. for a true 1080 hdtv plasma will cost 10-15k. There are cheper models but can only display lower resolutions 2-6k typical

LCD has latency issues, ghosting, and a backlight that fades away after time. Its only advantage is.... umm well none

DLP has colour and contrast ratios that rivel or beat plasma, is cheaper, has the potential to last the longest of the three, three chip models have the best picture. Its only disavantage is believed to be you have to replace a light bulb every 3-5 years

All of the above can operate at one resolution, don't give up on or overlook CRT for the best colour reproduction and pixel pitch The boob tube isdisplay that can show any resolution with out interpolation.ube.

BS.

LCDs do not have ghosting issues. I have not seen anyone complain about ghosting on LCD RPTVs. The biggest complaint is black level which is true however, DLPs have problems as well such as mosquito noise and clayfaces.

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: thraxes
I posted this as a comment to the CES article

While technically correct that the gases in Plasmas wear out with extended use, the effect is hardly noticeable.

I work in a TV studio where we use Pioneer Plasmas and professional grade Barco DLP-RP monitors. The Barcos and the Pioneers have both been in almost continuos use for at least 8-12 hrs every day since 2001. Guess what: The Plasmas are still way way brighter than the DLPs. In fact, the DLPs are probably going to be replaced soon by... plasmas.

Reasons:
1: Brightness - especially when the DLPs are visible on Camera and need to show graphs etc. they are very lacking. Plasmas are bright enough for this and more importantly - camera angle independent. This is even after running them 12 hrs/day for 4 years.
2: Cost of ownership. Run these machines over 12 hours a day EVERY DAY and the money starts to add up. The pro DLPs are slightly less expensive to buy than the Plasmas but need the lamp replaced every few months which is comes to a significant amount of money over the lifetime of the unit. Energy consumption of DLP vs. Plasma is identical at about 400W. It's mainly point 1 though that disqualifies RPTVs from the studio.

So all this talk about "Oh no... your plasma's going to be worthless in 5 years" is a load of bull. It will get darker, that is true. But after 5 years it will still be brighter than an RPTV and remember: I am talking about older model plasmas. The newer ones have a much longer phosphor life then those that the studio bought 4 years ago.

BS again.

DLP and LCD RPTV bulbs are rated around 10,000 hours. If you watch TV every day for 12 hours, the bulb should last you 2.28 years not a few months. Besides, when the bulb goes bad, all you have to do is pay $300 and get a new one. After 5 years I suspect the plasma will be very dark while the DLP or LCD should still be going strong with a new bulb.

 

[CalvinHobbes]

No one knows the lifespan of plasma TV's. They think it will be 10 years when it reaches 50% light output but no one knows for sure.

 

[cliftonite]

I would wait till the years end to buy a 1080P set.

 

[imported_Mike]

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: w00t
Dad and I went to BB i saw the panasonic its nice, someone else told me i should look at the 50in plasma. DLP and LCD look the same i think i couldnt tell a difference. at first i though dlp was brighter until i adjusted some settings in the menu on the lcd. what is so good about plasma. from what i saw plasma, lcd, and dlp were very close in image quality, britness, and color reproduction. is it true that plasma goes out very fast?

plasma pros and cons

dlp pros and cons

lcd pros and cons

Plasma has great colour and contrast but an life of about 5 years before i will begin to die and is the most expensive. for a true 1080 hdtv plasma will cost 10-15k. There are cheper models but can only display lower resolutions 2-6k typical

LCD has latency issues, ghosting, and a backlight that fades away after time. Its only advantage is.... umm well none

DLP has colour and contrast ratios that rivel or beat plasma, is cheaper, has the potential to last the longest of the three, three chip models have the best picture. Its only disavantage is believed to be you have to replace a light bulb every 3-5 years

All of the above can operate at one resolution, don't give up on or overlook CRT for the best colour reproduction and pixel pitch The boob tube isdisplay that can show any resolution with out interpolation.ube.

Those light bulbs will cost ya 4 figures as well

NO they won't. the tv will cost 4 figures but not the bulb.

Yes they will, the bulbs are a couple grand to replace

 

[Doggiedog]

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: CheapArse

Originally posted by: Googer

Originally posted by: w00t
Dad and I went to BB i saw the panasonic its nice, someone else told me i should look at the 50in plasma. DLP and LCD look the same i think i couldnt tell a difference. at first i though dlp was brighter until i adjusted some settings in the menu on the lcd. what is so good about plasma. from what i saw plasma, lcd, and dlp were very close in image quality, britness, and color reproduction. is it true that plasma goes out very fast?

plasma pros and cons

dlp pros and cons

lcd pros and cons

Plasma has great colour and contrast but an life of about 5 years before i will begin to die and is the most expensive. for a true 1080 hdtv plasma will cost 10-15k. There are cheper models but can only display lower resolutions 2-6k typical

LCD has latency issues, ghosting, and a backlight that fades away after time. Its only advantage is.... umm well none

DLP has colour and contrast ratios that rivel or beat plasma, is cheaper, has the potential to last the longest of the three, three chip models have the best picture. Its only disavantage is believed to be you have to replace a light bulb every 3-5 years

All of the above can operate at one resolution, don't give up on or overlook CRT for the best colour reproduction and pixel pitch The boob tube isdisplay that can show any resolution with out interpolation.ube.

Those light bulbs will cost ya 4 figures as well

NO they won't. the tv will cost 4 figures but not the bulb.

Yes they will, the bulbs are a couple grand to replace

Pff.