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Elixer

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Originally posted by: Jaxidian
Originally posted by: Link
Originally posted by: Jaxidian
From what I've read, you can't do a clean install with a Vista upgrade - you actually have to go through the upgrade process. WinXP you could always do a clean install from upgrade disks but not Vista.

Just FYI to all who don't know...
:(

This is part true and part false.
You do need a copy of xp installed on your system to start the installation, but you also get an option to do a clean install on another partition or drive that does not have an xp installed.
Also, you get dual boot of xp and vista on one machine if you use this method.

Interesting...

So this means if I want a clean install of Vista on my C: that I need to get WinXP installed on my D:? Also, is the Upgrade only from XP or will any Windows install work? Would probably be quicker/easier to install Win98 real quick on a D: than WinXP to upgrade from.

Thanks for this news! I absolutely HATE all previous "upgrade" installs for Windows OSes - always seems slower and less stable than clean installs.

All you have to do is install vista WITHOUT a key, and it will clean install. Then install it AGAIN, WITH a key, and all will be well.


 

Jaxidian

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
I'm picking it up for $45 from the MS store today - full version, Ultimate.

I know you can't resell to other people. Interested in some gift exchanges though? ;)
 

UCJefe

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Originally posted by: Jaxidian
Originally posted by: Link
Originally posted by: Jaxidian
From what I've read, you can't do a clean install with a Vista upgrade - you actually have to go through the upgrade process. WinXP you could always do a clean install from upgrade disks but not Vista.

Just FYI to all who don't know...
:(

This is part true and part false.
You do need a copy of xp installed on your system to start the installation, but you also get an option to do a clean install on another partition or drive that does not have an xp installed.
Also, you get dual boot of xp and vista on one machine if you use this method.

Interesting...

So this means if I want a clean install of Vista on my C: that I need to get WinXP installed on my D:? Also, is the Upgrade only from XP or will any Windows install work? Would probably be quicker/easier to install Win98 real quick on a D: than WinXP to upgrade from.

Thanks for this news! I absolutely HATE all previous "upgrade" installs for Windows OSes - always seems slower and less stable than clean installs.


There is a workaround for doing a clean "upgrade" install posted here

1. Boot with the Windows Vista Upgrade DVD.

2. Click "Install Now."

3. Do not enter a Product Key When prompted.

4. When prompted, select the Vista product edition that you do have.

6. Install Vista normally.

7. Once the install is complete, restart the DVD-based Setup from within Windows Vista. Perform an in-place upgrade.

8. Enter your Product Key when prompted.
 

Link

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Jan 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: UCJefe
Originally posted by: Jaxidian
Originally posted by: Link
Originally posted by: Jaxidian
From what I've read, you can't do a clean install with a Vista upgrade - you actually have to go through the upgrade process. WinXP you could always do a clean install from upgrade disks but not Vista.

Just FYI to all who don't know...
:(

This is part true and part false.
You do need a copy of xp installed on your system to start the installation, but you also get an option to do a clean install on another partition or drive that does not have an xp installed.
Also, you get dual boot of xp and vista on one machine if you use this method.

Interesting...

So this means if I want a clean install of Vista on my C: that I need to get WinXP installed on my D:? Also, is the Upgrade only from XP or will any Windows install work? Would probably be quicker/easier to install Win98 real quick on a D: than WinXP to upgrade from.

Thanks for this news! I absolutely HATE all previous "upgrade" installs for Windows OSes - always seems slower and less stable than clean installs.


There is a workaround for doing a clean "upgrade" install posted here

1. Boot with the Windows Vista Upgrade DVD.

2. Click "Install Now."

3. Do not enter a Product Key When prompted.

4. When prompted, select the Vista product edition that you do have.

6. Install Vista normally.

7. Once the install is complete, restart the DVD-based Setup from within Windows Vista. Perform an in-place upgrade.

8. Enter your Product Key when prompted.

Yes, this works. But, you need to go through the vista installation process twice. That's like 3~4 hours of Vista installation alone, ouch.
 

Link

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Jan 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: Jaxidian
Originally posted by: Link
Originally posted by: Jaxidian
From what I've read, you can't do a clean install with a Vista upgrade - you actually have to go through the upgrade process. WinXP you could always do a clean install from upgrade disks but not Vista.

Just FYI to all who don't know...
:(

This is part true and part false.
You do need a copy of xp installed on your system to start the installation, but you also get an option to do a clean install on another partition or drive that does not have an xp installed.
Also, you get dual boot of xp and vista on one machine if you use this method.

Interesting...

So this means if I want a clean install of Vista on my C: that I need to get WinXP installed on my D:? Also, is the Upgrade only from XP or will any Windows install work? Would probably be quicker/easier to install Win98 real quick on a D: than WinXP to upgrade from.

Thanks for this news! I absolutely HATE all previous "upgrade" installs for Windows OSes - always seems slower and less stable than clean installs.

You can still keep xp on C: and install Vista on D:.
 

Omniprezent

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Originally posted by: Link
Originally posted by: UCJefe
Originally posted by: Jaxidian
Originally posted by: Link
Originally posted by: Jaxidian
From what I've read, you can't do a clean install with a Vista upgrade - you actually have to go through the upgrade process. WinXP you could always do a clean install from upgrade disks but not Vista.

Just FYI to all who don't know...
:(

This is part true and part false.
You do need a copy of xp installed on your system to start the installation, but you also get an option to do a clean install on another partition or drive that does not have an xp installed.
Also, you get dual boot of xp and vista on one machine if you use this method.

Interesting...

So this means if I want a clean install of Vista on my C: that I need to get WinXP installed on my D:? Also, is the Upgrade only from XP or will any Windows install work? Would probably be quicker/easier to install Win98 real quick on a D: than WinXP to upgrade from.

Thanks for this news! I absolutely HATE all previous "upgrade" installs for Windows OSes - always seems slower and less stable than clean installs.


There is a workaround for doing a clean "upgrade" install posted here

1. Boot with the Windows Vista Upgrade DVD.

2. Click "Install Now."

3. Do not enter a Product Key When prompted.

4. When prompted, select the Vista product edition that you do have.

6. Install Vista normally.

7. Once the install is complete, restart the DVD-based Setup from within Windows Vista. Perform an in-place upgrade.

8. Enter your Product Key when prompted.

Yes, this works. But, you need to go through the vista installation process twice. That's like 3~4 hours of Vista installation alone, ouch.

Took me about an hr or so tops.
 

slag

Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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I bought my copy at office depot and installed (but not registered it) already. Any way i can get the deal at best buy instead because by buying it at office depot i did not get any of the extra goodies.
 
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Originally posted by: slag
I bought my copy at office depot and installed (but not registered it) already. Any way i can get the deal at best buy instead because by buying it at office depot i did not get any of the extra goodies.
Not now. That deal was for last week only. Maybe the OP can update the thread title, since it's now defunct.
 

slag

Lifer
Dec 14, 2000
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Originally posted by: Omniprezent
Originally posted by: Link
Originally posted by: UCJefe
Originally posted by: Jaxidian
Originally posted by: Link
Originally posted by: Jaxidian
From what I've read, you can't do a clean install with a Vista upgrade - you actually have to go through the upgrade process. WinXP you could always do a clean install from upgrade disks but not Vista.

Just FYI to all who don't know...
:(

This is part true and part false.
You do need a copy of xp installed on your system to start the installation, but you also get an option to do a clean install on another partition or drive that does not have an xp installed.
Also, you get dual boot of xp and vista on one machine if you use this method.

Interesting...

So this means if I want a clean install of Vista on my C: that I need to get WinXP installed on my D:? Also, is the Upgrade only from XP or will any Windows install work? Would probably be quicker/easier to install Win98 real quick on a D: than WinXP to upgrade from.

Thanks for this news! I absolutely HATE all previous "upgrade" installs for Windows OSes - always seems slower and less stable than clean installs.


There is a workaround for doing a clean "upgrade" install posted here

1. Boot with the Windows Vista Upgrade DVD.

2. Click "Install Now."

3. Do not enter a Product Key When prompted.

4. When prompted, select the Vista product edition that you do have.

6. Install Vista normally.

7. Once the install is complete, restart the DVD-based Setup from within Windows Vista. Perform an in-place upgrade.

8. Enter your Product Key when prompted.

Yes, this works. But, you need to go through the vista installation process twice. That's like 3~4 hours of Vista installation alone, ouch.

Took me about an hr or so tops.

3000+ @ 2.53 ghz, 2 gb ram, etc.

Using the above process took me 1 hour, 48 minutes. The original install took 59 minutes.
I installed this on a 74 gb raptor drive.
 

Shawn

Lifer
Apr 20, 2003
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Vista installs in less than 20min for me. Not sure what's wrong with your computer. :p