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lupi

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this is only model they've made in awhile without a camera, so don't really have any other option.
 

lxskllr

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How hard would it be to just remove/destroy the camera? That would open up the phone choices.
 

Deeko

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The Passport has some neat ideas but the typing experience is going to be far superior on the Classic.
 

corkyg

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There is no requirement for you to use a phone camera just because it is there.
 

lupi

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you are absolutely correct, the requirement for me to keep my job is though so another thread of yet more just buy with a camera is somewhat less than useful.
 

lupi

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paperwastage

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looks like hspa and gsm are about identical, real difference comes in LTE bands. going to have to figure out what is best for tmo if they don't offer the nocamera model.

get the generic Canda/Latin America/USA model

t-mo uses:

quad band GSM/2G
3G: 2, 4 (DC 42Mb max)
LTE: 2, 4, 12

12 is new, won't find it on older phones. tmo mainly uses LTE 2,4
 

shortylickens

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I would have got that for my mom, but her law firm finally made the full switch to iphones this spring.

She much prefers BB.
 

ibex333

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you are absolutely correct, the requirement for me to keep my job is though so another thread of yet more just buy with a camera is somewhat less than useful.

What do you do for a living?
 

lupi

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get the generic Canda/Latin America/USA model

t-mo uses:

quad band GSM/2G
3G: 2, 4 (DC 42Mb max)
LTE: 2, 4, 12

12 is new, won't find it on older phones. tmo mainly uses LTE 2,4


from my prelim checking, looks like you can only get the no-camera version from the carrier specific models. may have to wait and see if tmo puts out one then.
 

ibex333

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It can be pretty low level. In my younger days I worked in a call center and cameras were banned there. Not that uncommon.

Madness. I would never work in a place with such rules, unless there was absolutely no other option. I guess there isn't one at the moment.
 

lupi

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There are hundreds of thousands in locations with camera restrictions. Just because you think such a prohibition is preposterous does not mean it doesn't exist.
 

jacktesterson

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I worked for a bank for years and wasn't allowed to have a cell on me for security reasons primarily due to the camera. It had to be kept away and if seen out they could discipline you.

It's more common than you think.
 

paperwastage

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from my prelim checking, looks like you can only get the no-camera version from the carrier specific models. may have to wait and see if tmo puts out one then.

if you really want to, go get the ATT carrier specific model

t-mobile is moving away from band 4 3G (using band 4 for LTE instead).... if you really need to, you can live without band 4 3G.
 

lupi

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So I've been following this and doing some spot research here and there. Also really in need of changing the phone out as the 4.5 year old phone based on 6 year old spec (release delayed at tmo compared to other carrier version) is getting noticeable.

Looks like the at&t no-camera never actually got constructed. From reviews I've seen, the verizon comes with mosty of the gsm band also. The main thing it is missing is hspa+. (Anyone who knows more of the frequency landscape feel free to correct me.)

I'm in an area where I have a lte phone that sticks to that signal all the time. My BB is limited to 3g. If I get the unlocked verizon and either have lte or 2g, that wouldn't be much more negative than where I'm at now. Plus I'd be buying from amazon so would have some trial period and could send it back if it doesn't work.

Thoughts?
 

lupi

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was going to go with amazon but they are currently $50 higher than verizon directly and they won't price match on a non-contract purchase. so guess it's going to be a VW buy.
 

gorcorps

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Not looking at the Passport?

And if you can reconsider getting a phone with a camera, the Passport really does blow away the Classic

How hard would it be to just remove/destroy the camera? That would open up the phone choices.

I feel bad for the OP because these responses comes up every single time he brings up phones without a camera.

every
single
time
 

saratoga172

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Man that's a tough one OP. Curious what you find. The place my mom works won't let her bring a single thing into her office. Can't even bring in a laptop charger. Literally nothing. Crazy what security clearances will get you.

I'm surprised more companies haven't banned or put restrictions on cell phones tbh. Besides the obvious productivity impact they can have, there is the risk of someone simply taking a picture of company data and walking out. Guess if it's a risk they'll put restrictions in place.

This thread is is almost ironic because executives always ask me to secure everything (we do within the limitations given) but I always remind them there is nothing stopping anyone from pulling out there cell phone and snapping a picture.
 

destrekor

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Madness. I would never work in a place with such rules, unless there was absolutely no other option. I guess there isn't one at the moment.

I interviewed for a defense contractor, and in there, you cannot have any personal cell phone, I don't think camera even matters. They do issue cell phones for business use, at least for the IT crew, but I believe they are just basic flip phones.

Security regulations are certainly tight for the defense industry, but there are plenty of places, as others have mentioned, where the security practices are there because that is their choice. It may be anti-competition, it may be security for customer data, or something of that sort.
 

Crono

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I feel bad for the OP because these responses comes up every single time he brings up phones without a camera.

every
single
time

By now it would be easy to preface a new thread with, "I need a phone without a camera because my job requires it"

every
single
time

Otherwise, as if any random person brought up an outdated phone, it's not unreasonable for us to assume maybe they just aren't aware there are better options.