buy.com DOTD Lexpro Flat Panel Speakers & Subwoofer

CIRCUS

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Looks good, I like those flat speakers, but I dont have yet all the info on the deal/ product.

Will see what others find out :)
 

jmg888

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I've never heard these but my gut tells me they're not so good. The average price for the last 3 that sold on egay was $31.00
 

CarpeDeo

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Speakers never sell for very much on egay . . . maybe because of high shipping costs? Anyways, from what I remember- these speakers are WELL worth 30 bucks. There were some gripes about flat-panels being non-directional (thus eliminating the need to find the 'sweet spot') but at the same time- that the sound didn't appear to be DIRECTED at you (which might be bad for games?? don't really know). But supposedly the clarity of flatpanels is really awesome.

But what I really want are some electrostatic speakers. (=
 

convex

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hmm buy says they have a 5 1/4" in the sub whereas the manufacturers site says it's a 4"...hrm...
 

dbLA

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Yes, there do seem to be some discrepencies between the manufacturer's description and the buy.com description, but the picture is identical (except for scaling). Maybe this is a special factory run for buy.com with slightly different specs? My guess, though, is that the buy.com description is screwy.
 

masmax

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buy.com detail somehow unreliable.
It happend to me when I bought the clearance product from them.
buy.com posted the wrong picture.(maybe on purpose) It was really nicestuff in their website but the real product was totally different.
I have to return it right away. dah
 

Floyd

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CarpeDeo, flat panel loudspeakers are in fact very directional compared to conventional cone/dome loudspeakers, and the effect is more pronounced the wider the diaphragm. Depending on how you look at it, it can be a blessing or a curse. For example, flat panel transducers exhibit fewer interactions with the room's acoustics, something which plays a huge factor in the overall sound quality of a loudspeaker system. Also since the output is directional, it is less obtrusive to others in the room, perhaps desirable for a computer in a family room (although the limited width of desktop loudspeakers pretty much obviate the point). For the same reason, they are not well suited for multiple listeners distributed off the main loudspeaker axis.

Beware that some (many?) inexpensive computer speakers advertised as flat panels are not true flat panel designs, rather a shallow cone driver.

And yes, I would love to have some electrostatics tucked away on my desk, but running multi-kilovolt signal and bias lines around my computer isn't very practical. Not to mention the potential signal integrity issues that can arise.

Best regards,
Floyd
 

spec411

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heres the specs from the website

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3-PC Subwoofer Set
Output Performance: 600 Watts PMPO
Frequency Response: 50Hz - 18kHz
Input Impedance: 4 Ohms
Woofer: 4 Inch
Speakers: 3-1/2 Inch
Tweeter: 2-1/2 Inch

Obviously these are flea market and comp show promo quality speakers (any speakers that list PMPO and some ridiculous wattage number are crap)
but they probbaly are a step up from a computers factory speakers...worth $29?? id say no, get a cheap pair of labtecs when they have a coupon and rebate at staples....
 

w3b

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any online reviews on this product? couldnt find it in cnet and zdnet.
 

Groch

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Floyd Great Post!, I thought the non-directional thing sounded wrong too, and have learned to trust anyone who can put obtrusive and obviate in the same sentence. What speakers do you recommend?
 

commOdog

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klipsch pro-media's are the best PC speakers. Period.

what does this have to to with flat panels? Nothing.

Why am I posting this morning? I have no idea...
 

Floyd

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> "...and have learned to trust anyone who can put obtrusive and obviate in the same sentence."

Haha! Yep, I can BS with the best of 'em ;)

Just kidding, everything there is factual...I have a background in audio electronics and loudspeaker design before I shifted my attention to computers. My EE Senior Project in fact included a custom electrostatic loudspeaker (among other things).

> "What speakers do you recommend?"

I'm sorry I can't offer a good recommendation for computer speakers. So happens I have a pair of inexpensive pseudo-flat panels on my desk, and when I'm interested in more critical listening, I move to my entertainment system which consists of a pair of custom loudspeakers pictured here and here (which I hope to eventually replace with some electrostatics, if ever I have the time). Just my humble opinion, but I've never believed that the computer is a good place for critical listening (sound cards, MP3's, fan noise, visuals, acoustics) so I haven't actively pursued a good desktop system. From what I understand, the Monsoon flat panels - MX700 I believe - are very respectable performers for the price. I even recall seeing a modification that would allow one to improve the noise floor of the amplification by changing a single resistor, not that most people would find it necessary or even noticeable.

Best regards,
Floyd
 

nyfever

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hmmm... I ordered one and cancell right away..
My gut feeling tells me that this speaker is not as good as it look.

 

anandfan

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After reading the description, I see no mention of integrated amp. I take it these can not be used with line-level output from a sound card. These require an amplifier, n'est pas?
 

SmokinToilet

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uh... J'e ne sa pa!

come see come sa ? uh.. j'a door dormeer ! =)

thats all I remember from 3 years of french...

I would figure that it has its own amp since these are designed for computers. requiring an additional amp would be rediculus...
 

dandan

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I want to back Floyd and say for flat speakers the monsoon mm-700's are great. They are very directional and have a definate sweet spot. But the music they make is so clear. And in games you know for sure what side of you the rocket is coming from :)
for music they are great also as long as you are in the sweet spot.
I have had them for about 8months and still love them.
dan
 

Floyd

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Coincidence? I just noticed over at Techdeals that Outpost has the Monsoon iM700's for $99 after a $30 mail-in rebate, and of course the usual free overnight shipping. The price isn't in the same range as the Lexpro's, but neither is the performance. For those interested, it might be worthwhile to check around to see if another online vendor has it for a few bucks less and/or perhaps stack a coupon.

[edit] Err...it looks like one could save another $8.50 (after shipping is factored in) by purchasing from Buy.com and using the $20 off $100 coupon for returning customers. Only a few bucks, and you'd have them in-hand pronto from Outpost. Then again, it's hard to shake the Mission Statement of this forum...lowest price wins no matter what. [/edit]

Best regards,
Floyd
 

kingink

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Hmmm? Floyd the iM700's stated they were for iMac's. Is it a typo on Outpost's webpage. The page also stated that it would take up to two weeks to ship. Good deal if you have an iMac. Does the rebate apply to the M700 as well?
I looked at the rebate form and it reads that the iM700 is a qualifier
for the $30.00 return. Thanks for all the info Floyd. It looks like I might get some flat panels, but they will me Magnaplanars.
kingink
 

Floyd

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kingink, nah, it's not a typo. I believe the iM700 and MM700 products are identical except for aesthetics (the same 'ole pretty-plastic iMac syndrome). Hopefully someone can verify. The specs on Sonigistix's web page are identical, and the only requirement is that it use a standard 3.5mm stereo plug to interface to the sound card. I know older Macs use this type of connection but not 100% sure of the iMac...doubt it would have changed, though, due to backward compatibility.

Best regards,
Floyd