Bush's Tax plan staying until 2011?

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Jhhnn

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Just as the situation in 1932 was created by the events of the 1920's, so is today's situation a result of the past.

I recognize that's a very inconvenient truth, particularly for the Righties, and that they have the luxury of an Obama victory prior to total collapse, something their historical predecessors lacked in 1932. So they'll attempt to blame him for not instantaneously fixing what it took decades for their free market heroes of the lootocracy to create...

The only people hoping for an Obama "failure" are those purposefully setting expectations a lot higher than they have any right to be, and attempting to judge future performance against those expectations.

In 1932, the one thing that was never really in question was the fiscal integrity of the govt, and that's not the situation today, at all, thanks in no small measure to the efforts of the Bush Admin and repubs in general. If that deteriorates further, any sort of recovery will be greatly hampered. If govt spending is cut drastically, as righties suggest, that'll reduce economic activity even further, kinda like digging a hole and pulling it down on top of yourself. The only real answer is to increase govt revenues, establish something resembling fiscal integrity, work from there.

We'll see if Dems can walk the delicate political line necessary to accomplish that, and if they can create some honest prosperity not based on deliberate deception and false asset valuation...
 

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Yeh, Genx87, and you'll see the effect in the value of your investments, your money, and in what you get for the taxes you do pay. That's not immediate, of course- Any fool can look good on borrowed money, for awhile, and that includes Uncle Sam, too. He just gets to play the fool longer, that's all.

Go ahead, believe you're getting something for nothing, that deficits don't matter, and that all of our problems are due to teh ebil libruhls, not the lootocracy who've been asserting their influence increasingly from Reagan forward.

In many respects, it won't matter a helluva lot what Obama does, because the processes at work are inevitable, built on what's gone before, which has been the greatest transfer of wealth to the top in modern history. The prosperity of the last several years has been a purposeful illusion in pursuit of that, of trading in tomorrow for today. Guess what? Now it's tomorrow, and it's coming up on time to pay...

It's this kind of post that is so funny.

"but, but, but! Obama was setup to fail so we have an out!"

I get it - insane, alternate reality libs, the greed/rich are the problem, let's go get them rich people! - it's all bush's fault.

I made fun of the apologist cry, but this kinda takes the cake. And I find it absolutely hilarious that obama supporters are already setting up for failure to have an out. "but, but, but, but, but, but bush!"

One thing that true leadership can show (if you've ever done it) is to tackle the task/problem at hand without laying blame. I would be encouraged if obama keeps the cuts and my respect for him, in the toilet already, would up a notch.

I don't think his base really wanted him to soak the rich anyway. It just sounded good.