Bush's speech.....

[Todd33]

It was a PR speech to stop his crash and burn. I prefer performance and compitance, not overly produced, staged speeches written by everyone but the guy talking. We saw how he acted without a script, who cares how well he can read a teleprompter?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Yep, he's perfected the art of blowin' smoke up the collective a$$hole of Americans.

 

[conjur]

"Armies of Compassion"

Federal reimbursement of churches' expenses??? WTF?

9/11...terror...terror...WMDs...9/11


:roll:



Fvcking propaganda to stir the right-wing base.



BTW, who else predicted the blue shirt?

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Todd33
It was a PR speech to stop his crash and burn. I prefer performance and compitance, not overly produced, staged speeches written by everyone but the guy talking. We saw how he acted without a script, who cares how well he can read a teleprompter?

All Presidents have their speeches written for them, and they all read off teleprompters. This is nothing new and certainly not unique to Bush 43. Now, do you have any credible arguments? No, I didn't think so.

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Todd33
It was a PR speech to stop his crash and burn. I prefer performance and compitance, not overly produced, staged speeches written by everyone but the guy talking. We saw how he acted without a script, who cares how well he can read a teleprompter?

All Presidents have their speeches written for them, and they all read off teleprompters. This is nothing new and certainly not unique to Bush 43. Now, do you have any credible arguments? No, I didn't think so.

i dont think he was expecting the dude to write his own speech but maybe match the good speeches with actions.

 

[DealMonkey]

The government of this nation will do its part as well. Our cities must have clear and up-to-date plans for responding to natural disasters, disease outbreaks or terrorist attack -- for evacuating large numbers of people in an emergency and for providing the food, water and security they would need.

In a time of terror threats and weapons of mass destruction, the danger to our citizens reaches much wider than a fault line or a flood plain. I consider detailed emergency planning to be a national security priority.

Therefore, I have ordered the Department of Homeland Security to undertake an immediate review, in cooperation with local counterparts of emergency plans in every major city in America.

I also want to know all the facts about the government response to Hurricane Katrina. The storm involved a massive flood, a major supply and security operation and an evacuation order affecting more than a million people.

It was not a normal hurricane, and the normal disaster relief system was not equal to it. Many of the men and women of the Coast Guard, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the United States military, the National Guard, Homeland Security, and state and local governments performed skillfully under the worst conditions.

Yet the system at every level of government, was not well coordinated and was overwhelmed in the first few days. It is now clear that a challenge on this scale requires greater federal authority and a broader role for the armed forces -- the institution of our government most capable of massive logistical operations on a moment's notice.

Four years after the frightening experience of September 11th, Americans have every right to expect a more effective response in a time of emergency. When the federal government fails to meet such an obligation, I as president am responsible for the problem, and for the solution.

This is from Bush's speech above. My question/response: WTF have you been doing for the last 4 years since 9/11? You would have thought that episode would have gotten you and homeland security off your collective arses. Guess not, huh?

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

The government of this nation will do its part as well. Our cities must have clear and up-to-date plans for responding to natural disasters, disease outbreaks or terrorist attack -- for evacuating large numbers of people in an emergency and for providing the food, water and security they would need.

In a time of terror threats and weapons of mass destruction, the danger to our citizens reaches much wider than a fault line or a flood plain. I consider detailed emergency planning to be a national security priority.

Therefore, I have ordered the Department of Homeland Security to undertake an immediate review, in cooperation with local counterparts of emergency plans in every major city in America.

I also want to know all the facts about the government response to Hurricane Katrina. The storm involved a massive flood, a major supply and security operation and an evacuation order affecting more than a million people.

It was not a normal hurricane, and the normal disaster relief system was not equal to it. Many of the men and women of the Coast Guard, the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the United States military, the National Guard, Homeland Security, and state and local governments performed skillfully under the worst conditions.

Yet the system at every level of government, was not well coordinated and was overwhelmed in the first few days. It is now clear that a challenge on this scale requires greater federal authority and a broader role for the armed forces -- the institution of our government most capable of massive logistical operations on a moment's notice.

Four years after the frightening experience of September 11th, Americans have every right to expect a more effective response in a time of emergency. When the federal government fails to meet such an obligation, I as president am responsible for the problem, and for the solution.

This is from Bush's speech above. My question/response: WTF have you been doing for the last 4 years since 9/11? You would have thought that episode would have gotten you and homeland security off your collective arses. Guess not, huh?

They've been too busy frittering away billions on speedboats and useless security measures to fight the war on terra. And, Chertoff was just looking for the right way to take the Torture Memo he helped craft and apply it to the Homeland. I think he found a way to do it but in an unexpected way. He's the Accidental Terraist.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: PatboyX
i dont think he was expecting the dude to write his own speech but maybe match the good speeches with actions.

Perhaps you are thinking of the speeches given by 42 which were lies, lies, and more lies.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: PatboyX
i dont think he was expecting the dude to write his own speech but maybe match the good speeches with actions.

Perhaps you are thinking of the speeches given by 42 which were lies, lies, and more lies.

Wow, you are man of substance yourself huh? When in doubt attack Clinton!

Tonights speech reminded me of the negligent father who misses X-mas, then comes home with extra gifts on Jan. 1st. You can't buy leadership. This speech would have been great 10 days ago knee deep in water without the fancy lights and backdrop. This was pure Hollywood, a Rove special. I'm glad right wing sheep bought it, but the public won't. Bush failed, no speech could make up for that.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Wow, you are man of substance yourself huh? When in doubt attack Clinton!

No, it was a rather appropriate analogy to the OPs comments.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Todd33
Wow, you are man of substance yourself huh? When in doubt attack Clinton!

No, it was a rather appropriate analogy to the OPs comments.

Uhh...the OP gave the speech a B- and was rather complimentary and you reply with BS duh-version and drivel aimed at Clinton (who hasn't been President for over 4 1/2 years) and that's an appropriate analogy?




You'll need those to feed your trolling habit.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Todd33
Wow, you are man of substance yourself huh? When in doubt attack Clinton!

No, it was a rather appropriate analogy to the OPs comments.

Uhh...the OP gave the speech a B- and was rather complimentary and you reply with BS duh-version and drivel aimed at Clinton (who hasn't been President for over 4 1/2 years) and that's an appropriate analogy?




You'll need those to feed your trolling habit.

I was referring to Todd33, who posted the original response that prompted that reply from me. Thanks for misrepresenting the facts again

 

[conjur]

um...


OP = Original Poster = RightIsWrong

 

[DanceMan]

Hm, well it's good to see Bush finally support something like this. I mean maybe he'll treat it just like No Child Left Behind....

Oh wait....

well, maybe like the AIDS initative in Africa. Maybe it will be as successful as that!

Oh, wait......

Well, he did get the Prescription Drug Benefit passed, and it's only going to cost us $400 billion, too!

No, wait again!!

Hey, but at least we're still going to Mars!

Wait, is there a pattern here???

I would also mention that he's going to fix Social Security, but I think you now get the point.

The truth is, it's a PR move, pure and simple. The Bush Administration has shown time and time again they can't be trusted to support any of the programs they propose (unless it's for corporate largesse, which do seem to work out pretty well).

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
ABC is doing a post-speech interview of 10 or so NOLA blacks in Houston who watched the speech. The interviewer is trying his hardest to get them to condemn Bush and Bush only, but they have nothing but praise for him and his speech. They're blaming the mayor and governor and have no blame for Bush at all.

This is hilarious! The Liberal press trying to get people to condemn Bush and they shove it back in their face!

And they are black too! Great feeling to see them stop being led around by the liberal press.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Condor
And they are black too! Great feeling to see them stop being led around by the liberal press.

No, you see, the African-American segment of our population is getting smarter to the liberal system. Bush received a whopping 16% of their vote in the last election. Doesn't sound like much but when you realize he was at 8-9% in 2000 you see a trend.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Condor
And they are black too! Great feeling to see them stop being led around by the liberal press.

No, you see, the African-American segment of our population is getting smarter to the liberal system. Bush received a whopping 16% of their vote in the last election. Doesn't sound like much but when you realize he was at 8-9% in 2000 you see a trend.

Because two data points always show a trend. Did you even make it out of high school? He did better because he hoodwinked the Christian blacks with the gay marriage thing. It's not that hard to make people vote against their best interest, look how many poor white people are Republican.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Condor
And they are black too! Great feeling to see them stop being led around by the liberal press.

No, you see, the African-American segment of our population is getting smarter to the liberal system. Bush received a whopping 16% of their vote in the last election. Doesn't sound like much but when you realize he was at 8-9% in 2000 you see a trend.

Because two data points always show a trend. Did you even make it out of high school? He did better because he hoodwinked the Christian blacks with the gay marriage thing. It's not that hard to make people vote against their best interest, look how many poor white people are Republican.

LOL. You mean the Dems fscked themselves by running a one-plank platform on an unpopular issue during a Presidential election year?
At no point did the Dems make it look like voting for them was in people's best interests last year, except with the Anybody but Bush slogan which they didn't even start (the Libertarians, classical liberals, and traditional conservatives did, thank you very much).
Worst presidential campaign I've seen since Mondale. The only reason it was close was because the opposition (Bush) was just as bad. Real comedy of errors. "Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber" as Nader said the day after the 2000 elections, another comedy of errors starring fools.
And here's a thought about those "many poor white people are Republican." Instead of being an arrogant prick about why they don't follow your whims and vote Dem, why don't you stop for one moment in your contempt of them and think about the real valid reasons why they choose to vote as they do. If you can, drop your prejudices about religions, rednecks, homophobia, etc. and think about it. There is a real reason. I won't give you any hints, I know you can do it... I mean, c'mon you finished high school, right?

 

[Ferocious]

Originally posted by: Todd33
It was a PR speech to stop his crash and burn. I prefer performance and compitance, not overly produced, staged speeches written by everyone but the guy talking. We saw how he acted without a script, who cares how well he can read a teleprompter?

Point taken.

And sad but true.

 

[Ferocious]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Yep, he's perfected the art of blowin' smoke up the collective a$$hole of Americans.

lol. Also sad but true.

I spent a few minutes reading posts of some of the goosesteppers here.

Some things never change.

KARL ROVE is an absolute GENIUS.

 

[mikeford]

I watched a little of the speech, but to be real honest I don't care for his speaking style at all, so each time after a couple minutes I switched to something else.

This was a CYA speech, a photo op on a large scale, I want to see what actually happens, policy and practice. Scoring a speech is a waste of time, but this one was nothing special.

 

[Jhhnn]

Yeh, vic, there's a "real" reason they voted the way they did- it's called "god, guns, gays and terrar", not to mention the attack of the swiftliars...

Your team took the greatest political windfall since pearl harbor and turned it into the narrowest re-election win of the last 100 years, even as they transformed projected budget surpluses into the most massive deficits ever. They've transformed sympathy over 9/11 into worldwide revulsion and loathing over Iraq, and Dub's newest efforts, "federal control" have disowned their no longer convenient "States' Rights" and "local control" doublespeak routine.

But some folks don't even seem to notice. Apparently, there are some advantages to being mesmerized. When the subject is told to feel no pain, they don't, no matter what...

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Because two data points always show a trend. Did you even make it out of high school? He did better because he hoodwinked the Christian blacks with the gay marriage thing. It's not that hard to make people vote against their best interest, look how many poor white people are Republican.

Why don't you stick to the point, instead of going off on a tangent about data points and figures. I pointed out a couple figures - which were meant to show that Bush's support among African-Americans is not nearly as low as some here would like to believe. When all you have to attack is "data points" you clearly have no credible argument.

And, sadly, look how many poor minority folk are still sucked in to the liberal machine - which has chewed them up and spit them out (for political gain) for years. Fortunately they are starting to come around.

Class / Income have little to do with politics. I have plenty of wealthy Democrat and Republican friends; And plenty of not-so-wealthy Democrat and Republican friends as well.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Why on earth would I believe anything he says? His bumbling of Iraq shows his incompetence. Let's see the results, screw speeches.

 

[Moonbeam]

All I know is that Bush just promised billions of dollars to Republican re-builders that will be financed by the Chinese doing new wonders for our real security.

Bush is a bigger a disaster then the hurricane.