For TLC and his followers, do your selves a favor and look up the cases and convictions of Samuel Morison (by the Reagan admin for leaking things to the press even though it isn't/wasn't against the law) and Jonathan Randal (by the current Bush administration) and tell me if you think that they sound anything like what you Bushies are now saying aren't a crime.
You can read more about them here.
Funny that they were able to get convictions on both when there was no evidence of a crime.
Especially look hard at the Randal case......
But let me guess.....those have no correlation to what Rove did cause Karl did it "unknowingly". Yeah right. If someone is doing something "unknowingly", they don't EVER mutter the words, "I've said too much already". That means that they ARE aware of what they have done and have acknowledged that they are aware.
You can read more about them here.
Funny that they were able to get convictions on both when there was no evidence of a crime.
Especially look hard at the Randal case......
But let me guess.....those have no correlation to what Rove did cause Karl did it "unknowingly". Yeah right. If someone is doing something "unknowingly", they don't EVER mutter the words, "I've said too much already". That means that they ARE aware of what they have done and have acknowledged that they are aware.
And that has absolutley nothing to do with this thread. Now, how about addressing the rest of my post (that you snipped)
Wouldn't be all over the media? You're joking, right? The White House travel office, Monica, Whitewater, etc.? Those ring any bells? The media loves a good scandal. Interesting to see you run into apologist mode, though.
TastesLikeChicken
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I think you misunderstood his remarks.
I think he meant to say that the NYT didn't give up its source, thereby creating this whole big mess. They pretend to be acting in the interests of the source, but really they just want to make the Bush admin look bad. This scandal would not be such a big deal as it is now if Miller gave up the name. All it does is leave ample opportunity for the liberals to bash Bush with comments like the OPs and yours, since theyre seem to be no definative facts.
"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our
number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." ?George
Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 13, 2001
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority." ?George Bush, Washington,
D.C., March 13, 2002
Hi.
number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." ?George
Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 13, 2001
"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care.
It's not that important. It's not our priority." ?George Bush, Washington,
D.C., March 13, 2002
Hi.
If they wanted to make the admin look bad, why are they supporting Judith Miller? To make this admin look bad, they'd get her to give up her source to confirm what is widely known at this point.
Also, they are keeping her around for some unknown reason. There are a few cases in the past of her shoddy writing (including a lot leading up to the Iraq War for which the NYT issued a generalized "mea culpa")
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Priorities changed.
OBL was effectively neutralized as an organized enemy.
Hius network was turned into disarray; other issues appeared on the horizon.
Tides of war require changes in plans.
No plan survies the intial engagement.
Many other similar truths exist.
Keep harping on one issue and others will bite you in the rear.
dullard
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Daveymark: "This is McCLellan, not Bush" This statement was made in an attempt to deny the fact that Bush clarified the white house's comments on the day before. Who cares who said what. The fact is that it needed clarification, and it was clarified.
TastesLikeChicken: "when he stated it long ago". Well yes, he did state it long ago. On Sept 30. But that ignores the fact that it was not stated on Sept 29.
Krk3561 "On Sept. 30th Bush said ... Stop trying to misrepresent the facts". Again dening the Sept 29th ommision.
The clarification is a good thing. The Sept 29th comments were probably a simple mistake. But don't deny or ignore the comments. Simply tell us that they were made in error, corrected the next day, and that liberals are stupid for reading into the clarification. Yes BigLar is stupid for reading into that clarification. Just don't deny that a clarification was made.
Originally posted by: Gaard
LOL Who is this nut?
"Who cares what Bush said last year. That's not what he said 2 years ago."
WTF are you talking about?
This thread is about Bush's supposed flip-flop.
There never was one, he's had the same message all along.
dumb@ss
Interesting how quickly bushfans resort to "technical" arguments, particularly the claiming of ignorance on the part of Rove...
Ignorance of the law is no excuse, and ignorance of the circumstances of one's own actions and words are no excuse, either.
"I didn't know that discharging a firearm inside the city limits was illegal."
"I didn't know I was inside the city limits when I discharged a firearm."
"I didn't mean to discharge the firearm, it just went off, honest."
It won't work for any of us in a court of law, why should it work that way for Whitehouse officials, particularly wrt issues of national security? What happened to the much touted principle of "personal responsibility" we hear so much about from the Right?
Ignorance of the law is no excuse, and ignorance of the circumstances of one's own actions and words are no excuse, either.
"I didn't know that discharging a firearm inside the city limits was illegal."
"I didn't know I was inside the city limits when I discharged a firearm."
"I didn't mean to discharge the firearm, it just went off, honest."
It won't work for any of us in a court of law, why should it work that way for Whitehouse officials, particularly wrt issues of national security? What happened to the much touted principle of "personal responsibility" we hear so much about from the Right?
Yeah, right. We know. Bush has never made a mistake that he can think of. And he is always working really really hard.
:roll:
Originally posted by: BBond
It relates to the thread as well as your ridiculous excuses for Bush's FLIP-FLOPS do.
I'm not making excuses. I'm presenting the truth.
Truth? Like the WMD truth a large percentage of you Bushies still believe in? Or the ties to 9/11 and al Qaeda?
You wouldn't know the truth if God came down from Heaven and handed it to you engraved on tablets.
Here's a whole bunch of his flip-flops:
http://www.conjur.com/politics/BushFlipFlops.html
http://www.conjur.com/politics/BushFlipFlops2.html
http://www.conjur.com/politics/BushFlipFlops.html
http://www.conjur.com/politics/BushFlipFlops2.html
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