Bush's approval ratings now match Obama's

[Anarchist420]

Link.

What short memories people have.

This confirms that Dr. Paul 2012 was the last chance this country ever had.

 

[michal1980]

paul = nutcase.

rand today flip flopped on drones. total fake.

 

[Incorruptible]

Just shows how stupid people can be. But I love the liberal media bias where they refuse to talk about how bush helped with Aids/HIV in Africa.

Ron Paul was the only good candidate and he would have fixed the country.

 

[UberNeuman]

Just shows how stupid people can be. But I love the liberal media bias where they refuse to talk about how bush helped with Aids/HIV in Africa.

Ah, so Bush gave AIDS to Africa.... I knew it.

 

[nextJin]

paul = nutcase.

rand today flip flopped on drones. total fake.

Article from the middle of last year.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/14/opinion/rand-paul-drones

I want to make it clear that I am not arguing against the use of technology. But like other tools used to collect information in law enforcement, a warrant needs to be issued to use drones domestically. The police force should have the power to collect intelligence; however, I believe they must go through a judge and request a warrant to do so. The judicial branch must have some authority over drones, as they do with other law enforcement tools.

My bill will restate the Fourth Amendment and protect American's privacy by forcing police officials to obtain a warrant before using domestic drones.

There are some exceptions within this bill, such as the patrol of our national borders, when immediate action is needed to prevent "imminent danger to life," and when we are under a high risk of a terrorist attack. Otherwise, the government must have probable cause that led them to ask for a warrant before the use of drones is permitted.

He was never against all drones all the time. He used strong language (probably because of Boston) but he didn't filibuster for nothing. The use of force through drones against imminent threats (much like any other LEO) or surveillence for on going criminal investigations along with border security are fine.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Ah, so Bush gave AIDS to Africa.... I knew it.

Some people really hate Bush. Not me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps317u9Rhl0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[blankslate]

Just shows how stupid people can be. But I love the liberal media bias where they refuse to talk about how bush helped with Aids/HIV in Africa.

Unfortunately that was probably his best foreign policy stance. Almost everything else was mediocre or disastrous. If one of the two special forces plans to get Bin Laden while he was in Tora Bora had gotten the green light.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-4494937.html

and was successful, I'd have a different view of President Bush and his foreign policy. He didn't seem to go after Bin Laden as much as his statements made in the after math of the 9/11 attacks suggested he would.

 

[nextJin]

Unfortunately that was probably his best foreign policy stance. Almost everything else was mediocre or disastrous. If one of the two special forces plans to get Bin Laden while he was in Tora Bora had gotten the green light.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-4494937.html

and was successful, I'd have a different view of President Bush and his foreign policy. He didn't seem to go after Bin Laden as much as his statements made in the after math of the 9/11 attacks suggested he would.

Yea I read many of the books on that operation and most cite lack of will from the administration, likely dealing with Iraq. I wish we had just focused on Afgahnistan instead because things might be dramatically different had we done so but hindsight is 20/20.

 

[Anarchist420]

Unfortunately that was probably his best foreign policy stance. Almost everything else was mediocre or disastrous. If one of the two special forces plans to get Bin Laden while he was in Tora Bora had gotten the green light. http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18560_162-4494937.html and was successful, I'd have a different view of President Bush and his foreign policy. He didn't seem to go after Bin Laden as much as his statements made in the after math of the 9/11 attacks suggested he would.

There is a Reason that Bush didn't pursue bin laden... and it's because Bin Laden died at the end of 2001.

Look at bin laden's quotes before 2002 and then look at those attributed to him a few years later. They can't come from the same person. There is no reason Bin Laden would say he had nothing to do with it three times and then all of sudden change his mind. there is no reason why Bush wouldn't have just bombed the fuck out of the cave.

 

[Balt]

Well, if there was any question that this country's citizens get the awful political leaders they deserve, I think it's been answered.

 

[michal1980]

Article from the middle of last year.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/14/opinion/rand-paul-drones



He was never against all drones all the time. He used strong language (probably because of Boston) but he didn't filibuster for nothing. The use of force through drones against imminent threats (much like any other LEO) or surveillence for on going criminal investigations along with border security are fine.

PAUL: Here’s the distinction, Neil. I’ve never argued against any technology being used when you have an imminent threat, an active crime going on. If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and 50 dollars in cash, I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him.

Rand Paul is OK with drone killing Americans for robbing a liquor store.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...t_against_using_drones_to_find_criminals.html


Rand Pauls filibuster nothing but wasted hot air.

 

[bradley]

Wait until voters finally discover Obama and Bush are one in the same person.

 

[IGBT]

look at today's pop culture and you will know what's coming.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

I don't know what's worse believing Paul was the Great White Hope or believing the drivel Beck is putting forth.

 

[nextJin]

PAUL: Here’s the distinction, Neil. I’ve never argued against any technology being used when you have an imminent threat, an active crime going on. If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and 50 dollars in cash, I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him.

Rand Paul is OK with drone killing Americans for robbing a liquor store.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...t_against_using_drones_to_find_criminals.html


Rand Pauls filibuster nothing but wasted hot air.

You're hopelessly biased and ignored the imminent threat stated in the first sentance.

He is not saying if the guy runs out of the liquor store with a weapon throws it down and gives up that it's ok to launch a missle at the criminal. He is saying that a drone can have the same reactions as any other LEO at the scene.

What he should have said was;

"Here’s the distinction, Neil. I’ve never argued against any technology being used when you have an imminent threat, an active crime going on. If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and 50 dollars in cash and poses an imminent threat to human life, I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him."

I don't know what's worse believing Paul was the Great White Hope or believing the drivel Beck is putting forth.

I'm not a fan of some of his policies and certainly do not think he is the next great white hope.

 

[michal1980]

You're hopelessly biased and ignored the imminent threat stated in the first sentance.

He is not saying if the guy runs out of the liquor store with a weapon throws it down and gives up that it's ok to launch a missle at the criminal. He is saying that a drone can have the same reactions as any other LEO at the scene.

What he should have said was;

"Here’s the distinction, Neil. I’ve never argued against any technology being used when you have an imminent threat, an active crime going on. If someone comes out of a liquor store with a weapon and 50 dollars in cash and poses an imminent threat to human life, I don’t care if a drone kills him or a policeman kills him."



I'm not a fan of some of his policies and certainly do not think he is the next great white hope.

keep defending the flip flopper wingnut

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Obama <= to Bush? Wow, we must have a nation full of morons. Whatever Obama has or has not done is nothing compared to the damage Bush did to this country.

 

[nextJin]

keep defending the flip flopper wingnut

And... nothing...

+1 to me.

 

[Matt1970]

Every President's approval rating goes up after leaving Office. This is nothing new.

 

[blankslate]

Yea I read many of the books on that operation and most cite lack of will from the administration, likely dealing with Iraq. I wish we had just focused on Afgahnistan instead because things might be dramatically different had we done so but hindsight is 20/20.

I can only hope that people will say as much about the blowback that will occur from President Obama's expansion of the drone program... but I doubt partisans will...

I for one will not forgive either President Bush for letting Bin Laden slip away from Tora Bora nor will I forgive President Obama if it turns out that the children who died in drone strikes ends up creating monsters.

 

[Genx87]

Link.

What short memories people have.

This confirms that Dr. Paul 2012 was the last chance this country ever had.

Well another thing Obama is like Bush.

 

[Nintendesert]

Since Obama has mostly continued Bush's policies and Obama is somewhat still popular it only makes sense that Bush is gravitating towards Obama's popularity rating too.

 

[1prophet]

Wait until voters finally discover Obama and Bush are one in the same person.

:awe::hmm::biggrin:

 

[werepossum]

Article from the middle of last year.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/14/opinion/rand-paul-drones



He was never against all drones all the time. He used strong language (probably because of Boston) but he didn't filibuster for nothing. The use of force through drones against imminent threats (much like any other LEO) or surveillence for on going criminal investigations along with border security are fine.

Sounds like a consistent and entirely sensible position.

 

[marincounty]

Of course his approval ratings are going up, he's been hiding from the public for years.