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Bush's Approval Rating Tops 50 Percent in Latest Gallup Poll

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WTF are these people answering the phone? Everything gets worse, ratings up!
This whole thread is funny. Why? Look at the numbers.
[*]In April, Gallup said the approval rating was somewhere between 49% and 55%.
[*]In May, Gallup said the approval rating was somewhere between 43% and 49%.
[*]In August, Gallup said the approval rating was somewhere between 48% and 54%.

Notice the margins of error? Notice also how an approval rating of 49% is consistant with ALL 3 points of data? Thus the contries opinion may not have changed at all during this time period! With no change at all, the posters above me go crazy (on either side). I just don't get it. Now if the data had a significant change, then I'd think you have something to complain about (for example: things getting worse and polls going up).
Hmm from April to May he drops 6 and from May to August he rises 5. I can easily see from Aug to Nov he drops back to where his true support lies (low-mid 40s).

But we all know Gallup sux great big donkey balls. His true approval rating is likely 2-3 pts lower than what Gallup polls.
Gallup has one big flaw that I can see. It comes from the form of data collection - over the phone. The last time I checked, the poorest 5% of the country still don't have phones. Thus Gallup ignores the poorest of the poor. Also the upper middle class and above are much more likely to have 2 or more phone lines (for individual family members, for fax lines, for business use at home, for internet, etc). Thus the richer side is much more likely to get a phone call from a random caller (such as Gallup). At the moment, the ignored poor side generally votes democrat and the wealthier side generally votes republican. Thus, the two lopsided effects can easilly mislead the results 2-3% in the favor of the republicans.

Note: as the wealthy move more and more to broadband, part of this effect is diminishing. But they still are likely to have multiple phone lines for non-internet related reasons.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Yep, I agree, hard to see "black and white" when you've been brainwashed.

Poor Neocons 🙁

FFS, dmcowen674! If one needed proof that number of posts and member status meant exactly jack-sh1t on this board, they'd have to look no further than you. I just assumed you were being facetious with all your "evil neocon" bits, giving you the benefit of the doubt because you somehow made the "Elite" cut, but it appears I grossly overestimated you. I have yet to see you contribute anything worthwhile to any recent thread, other than this tired phrase. Am I missing some larger joke? Did you lose a bet and get forced into posting useless garbage? Is it just a phase? WTF? I am genuinely curious.
 
Something is rotten in Denmark with these recent Gallop polls. Who are they calling now-a-days? Bush's approval rating is and has been 8-10 points lower than Gallop is reporting today. Not buying it.
 
Originally posted by: conjur

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!

Another Bush-God fanboi reading into my comments what he wants to see.

You see, Crimson, one can be AGAINST Bush but still not be a "partisan hack" of the left.

One day, when you grow a brain and learn to think for *yourself*, you'll understand that.

BTW, you're one to talk about things not being black and white when that's all you apparently see (from reading your posts up here.)

Sorry, conjur, but Crimson has a point. What's with all the over-generalization and immaturity? Bush-God fanboi? Grow a brain? WTF? All Crimson was pointing out is your apparent arrogance in believing that Americans are blind and stupid if they support Bush. That's a little over-the-top, even for someone anti-Bush. It's just as valid for me to assume that the other 49% are just "blinded" by the Michael Moore's "brainwashing." Right? But you won't hear me say that, because it's an ignorant and useless argument, just like yours.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Wow...just wow.


I can't believe there are that many people in this country so blinded from the truth, so afraid to accept the truth, that they approve of the failure known as Bush.

is it possible that you are WRONG?
 
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: conjur
Wow...just wow.


I can't believe there are that many people in this country so blinded from the truth, so afraid to accept the truth, that they approve of the failure known as Bush.
is it possible that you are WRONG?
No. And it's been proven Bush is a failure.

That's why even conservatives and even some neocons have criticized Bush!
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: conjur
Wow...just wow.


I can't believe there are that many people in this country so blinded from the truth, so afraid to accept the truth, that they approve of the failure known as Bush.
is it possible that you are WRONG?
No. And it's been proven Bush is a failure.

That's why even conservatives and even some neocons have criticized Bush!

not possible that the great conjur could ever be wrong...i see...:roll:

and no dems have criticized your infallible kerry? :roll:
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
It's pretty clear that this Gallup Organization has been bought and owned by the NeoCons.

Either that or they bought their most recent phone list from aol/time warner.
 
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: conjur
Wow...just wow.


I can't believe there are that many people in this country so blinded from the truth, so afraid to accept the truth, that they approve of the failure known as Bush.
is it possible that you are WRONG?
No. And it's been proven Bush is a failure.

That's why even conservatives and even some neocons have criticized Bush!
not possible that the great conjur could ever be wrong...i see...:roll:

and no dems have criticized your infallible kerry? :roll:
I never said it's not possible for me to ever be wrong. I've been wrong on many counts in the past. I was wrong to support Bush last year and I have now discovered the truth and am working to get this failed administration out of office.

Kerry just represents the best viable solution at this point.

Am I thrilled with Kerry? No.
Will I vote for Kerry? Yes. Having a Democratic President and Republican Congress will help restore some balance.

BTW, do you ever type more than one sentence or offer up any real thoughts or do you just bleat out one-liners that would make Hannity proud?


Oh, and just for you:

:roll: :roll:
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: conjur
Wow...just wow.


I can't believe there are that many people in this country so blinded from the truth, so afraid to accept the truth, that they approve of the failure known as Bush.
is it possible that you are WRONG?
No. And it's been proven Bush is a failure.

That's why even conservatives and even some neocons have criticized Bush!

So you have a problem with people in politics not being party line puppets? Because I don't agree with all that Bush has done doesn't mean that I think he is a failure. It just means that I don't agree 100% with him.

According to your logic stated above, any politician that is in the same party as the president that doesn't agree with him 100% is saying that the president at the time is a failure. That makes every president is a failure.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: conjur
Wow...just wow.


I can't believe there are that many people in this country so blinded from the truth, so afraid to accept the truth, that they approve of the failure known as Bush.
is it possible that you are WRONG?
No. And it's been proven Bush is a failure.

That's why even conservatives and even some neocons have criticized Bush!
not possible that the great conjur could ever be wrong...i see...:roll:

and no dems have criticized your infallible kerry? :roll:
I never said it's not possible for me to ever be wrong. I've been wrong on many counts in the past. I was wrong to support Bush last year and I have now discovered the truth and am working to get this failed administration out of office.

Kerry just represents the best viable solution at this point.

Am I thrilled with Kerry? No.
Will I vote for Kerry? Yes. Having a Democratic President and Republican Congress will help restore some balance.

BTW, do you ever type more than one sentence or offer up any real thoughts or do you just bleat out one-liners that would make Hannity proud?


Oh, and just for you:

:roll: :roll:

Wow.. you are so out of control its scary. Now apparently all conservatives can't think without listening to a rightwing radio host to tell them how to think. I think the reason rightwing hosts like Hannity, Limbaugh, etc exist is not because they TURN people conservative, is that they speak the conservative views that most of us have had all along. There is no brainwashing going on, the hosts are simply saying what we haven't heard from the leftwing media over the years, thus they get a following.
 
Right wing talk = Jerry Springer. It's pure entertainment. They lie out of their teeth, they get called on it daily, but ignore it and move on to the next lie. It's sad that sheep listen and believe it.
 
Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
I love how this "idiot" of a president is smart enough to "brainwash" over 50% of the population.

Ha, don't the Neocons wish he was smart enough to that himself.

Thanks to Rush & Hannity for the brainwashing or as Hannity calls it, the "Hannitization of America" :|
 
Originally posted by: Crimson

Now apparently all conservatives can't think without listening to a rightwing radio host to tell them how to think.

Ding ding ding, wow there is hope. They are starting to realize that maybe just maybe they are in fact brainwashed. Very good, there may be some hope for Neocons yet. 😀 :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Crimson

Now apparently all conservatives can't think without listening to a rightwing radio host to tell them how to think.

Ding ding ding, wow there is hope. They are starting to realize that maybe just maybe they are in fact brainwashed. Very good, there may be some hope for Neocons yet. 😀 :thumbsup:

Can you make a post without the word neocon in it? And typical for the LIAR you are, you take my quote out of context..

Like I said, conservative talk radio simply brings together those of like minds.. its doesn't CHANGE anyone.
 
As somebody pointed out here last week, there certainly is a sameness in the sound of the pro-Bush posters, as though they were all reading from the same script. On the other hand there is more variety to the rhetoric of the anit-Bush posters. This gives rise to the notion of brainwashing. I suppose there is another explanation, but it escapes me.
 
Perhaps people are realizing that Kerry is far left and don't want a dirty liberal in office. His senate voting record has certainly spread around recently.
 
Originally posted by: daveshel
As somebody pointed out here last week, there certainly is a sameness in the sound of the pro-Bush posters, as though they were all reading from the same script. On the other hand there is more variety to the rhetoric of the anit-Bush posters. This gives rise to the notion of brainwashing. I suppose there is another explanation, but it escapes me.
No, that pretty much is hitting the nail on the head.
 
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Hmm from April to May he drops 6 and from May to August he rises 5. I can easily see from Aug to Nov he drops back to where his true support lies (low-mid 40s).

But we all know Gallup sux great big donkey balls. His true approval rating is likely 2-3 pts lower than what Gallup polls.

And people say the Bush administration uses fuzzy math.........:roll:
 
Originally posted by: daveshel
As somebody pointed out here last week, there certainly is a sameness in the sound of the pro-Bush posters, as though they were all reading from the same script. On the other hand there is more variety to the rhetoric of the anit-Bush posters. This gives rise to the notion of brainwashing. I suppose there is another explanation, but it escapes me.

I guess it just depends on your point of view - Swap bush with kerry and your argument would hold true for the other side.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
It's pretty clear that this Gallup Organization has been bought and owned by the NeoCons.

You think everything has been bought and owned by the NeoCons. Gallup is a respected polling organization. You can't just disregard news you disagree with.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: Crimson
Originally posted by: conjur
Wow...just wow.


I can't believe there are that many people in this country so blinded from the truth, so afraid to accept the truth, that they approve of the failure known as Bush.

Wow.. if this doesn't expose you as the partisan hateful hack you are, I don't know what else you could say. Conjur, there is not one single person on this bulletin board that has gone more downhill than you. You used to be somewhat reasonable and have intelligent posts.. now its come down to you simply labeling everyone who disagrees with you as blinded and afraid to accept the truth.

Maybe YOU are the one who is blinded? And the truth is not as clear cut as you think it is? If your views are the same as the majority of democrats out there, this country is in SERIOUS trouble.. The level of intolerance you show for others views is simply AMAZING. Would you prefer it is we started concentration camps for conservatives so you could exterminate them? I mean, you seem SO intolerent of others I could picture you up on the clock tower with a sniper rifle at some point..

I don't think the majority of democrats are idiots or blind, I think they have different priorities and different interpretations of whats going on. I think they are WRONG, but I don't think they are idiots or blinded from the truth. The 'truth' isn't always black and white..
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!

Another Bush-God fanboi reading into my comments what he wants to see.

You see, Crimson, one can be AGAINST Bush but still not be a "partisan hack" of the left.

One day, when you grow a brain and learn to think for *yourself*, you'll understand that.


BTW, you're one to talk about things not being black and white when that's all you apparently see (from reading your posts up here.)

Nice BS attempt Conjur but he is right. There is absolutely no doubt that you are a
partisan hateful hack
 
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