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Bushes Report Gross Income of $784,219

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Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd bet you would feel really pissed off if you were in the bracket when making that much. :rolls; I'm sure you would send an extra $100,000 in to the IRS as a way of saying "thanks."

If I made $800,000 a year I would gladly give 40% to the government if it meant balancing the budget and paying soldiers who fought in wars, and getting rid of all the federal gov't programs that don't work.

Sadly many people don't understand that if you work hard, you have a very good chance at making a lot of money.

The rich work hard and invest their money into new business.
This is why the rich get richer


fixed.... and oh yeah... wrong forum idiot
 
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd bet you would feel really pissed off if you were in the bracket when making that much. :rolls; I'm sure you would send an extra $100,000 in to the IRS as a way of saying "thanks."

If I made $800,000 a year I would gladly give 40% to the government if it meant balancing the budget and paying soldiers who fought in wars.

Sadly many live under the delusion that they will be rich one day and that will never occur.

90% of the people here will never make more then $100,000 a year so paying 40% would never be an issue for them.

This is why the rich get richer and the poor get screwed.

Thats easy to say when you are a poor bitch, now isn't it. Quit worrying about others and start worrying about yourself. You'll never go far in life bitching about how unfair it is. Just look at Dave.
 
Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
the surplus under clinton was more because the economy was booming then which is not due to clinton, same as the recession is not do to bush.



Ding ... Ding ... Ding ! ... WINNAR !


Both parties also will not cut programs out of the budget that the Nation can't afford right now. To many examples to list here but with a deficit this Country needs to have program cuts not spending cuts. There's no reason for our Federal Government to increase spending when the tax / economy revenue isn't there to support it.


And yes .. this is P&N stuff.
 
Originally posted by: Afrotech
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd bet you would feel really pissed off if you were in the bracket when making that much. :rolls; I'm sure you would send an extra $100,000 in to the IRS as a way of saying "thanks."

If I made $800,000 a year I would gladly give 40% to the government if it meant balancing the budget and paying soldiers who fought in wars, and getting rid of all the federal gov't programs that don't work.

Sadly many people don't understand that if you work hard, you have a very good chance at making a lot of money.

The rich work hard and invest their money into new business.
This is why the rich get richer


fixed.... and oh yeah... wrong forum idiot

1. I agree get rid of the wasteful programs.

2. Poor and middle class people work very hard as well but will never be rich and some rich people are lazy and just plain lucky {Paris Hilton}.

3. The middle class also invest and I'd prefer a HUGE middle class investing in the market instead of a few millionaires.

4. Your an idiot as well 🙂

 
Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd bet you would feel really pissed off if you were in the bracket when making that much. :rolls; I'm sure you would send an extra $100,000 in to the IRS as a way of saying "thanks."

If I made $800,000 a year I would gladly give 40% to the government if it meant balancing the budget and paying soldiers who fought in wars.

Sadly many live under the delusion that they will be rich one day and that will never occur.

90% of the people here will never make more then $100,000 a year so paying 40% would never be an issue for them.

This is why the rich get richer and the poor get screwed.

Thats easy to say when you are a poor bitch, now isn't it. Quit worrying about others and start worrying about yourself. You'll never go far in life bitching about how unfair it is. Just look at Dave.

I am worried about myself, the national debt is 7.8 Trillion, that means more taxes eventually and it means the middle class will probably foot the bill.


 
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: Afrotech
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd bet you would feel really pissed off if you were in the bracket when making that much. :rolls; I'm sure you would send an extra $100,000 in to the IRS as a way of saying "thanks."

If I made $800,000 a year I would gladly give 40% to the government if it meant balancing the budget and paying soldiers who fought in wars, and getting rid of all the federal gov't programs that don't work.

Sadly many people don't understand that if you work hard, you have a very good chance at making a lot of money.

The rich work hard and invest their money into new business.
This is why the rich get richer


fixed.... and oh yeah... wrong forum idiot

1. I agree get rid of the wasteful programs.

2. Poor and middle class people work very hard as well, and should take out gov't loans to get a degree in something that will provide a good paying job... not political science 😉

a very small portion of rich people are lazy and just plain lucky {Paris Hilton}.

3. The middle class also invest and HUGE middle class investing could happen more if the social security program was reformed.

4. Your an ATOT poster and shouldn't ever post in P&N 🙂


fixed yet again 🙂

and i was calling the OP an idiot, not you... unless you were the OP 😉
 
Originally posted by: Afrotech
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: Afrotech
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd bet you would feel really pissed off if you were in the bracket when making that much. :rolls; I'm sure you would send an extra $100,000 in to the IRS as a way of saying "thanks."

If I made $800,000 a year I would gladly give 40% to the government if it meant balancing the budget and paying soldiers who fought in wars, and getting rid of all the federal gov't programs that don't work.

Sadly many people don't understand that if you work hard, you have a very good chance at making a lot of money.

The rich work hard and invest their money into new business.
This is why the rich get richer


fixed.... and oh yeah... wrong forum idiot



2. Poor and middle class people work very hard as well, and should take out gov't loans to get a degree in something that will provide a good paying job... not political science 😉

fixed yet again 🙂

and i was calling the OP an idiot, not you... unless you were the OP 😉

1. Good paying jobs that are still below middle class and a lot getting shipped overseas, these are new economy jobs not old jobs.

2. I am the OP.
 
Originally posted by: Amused

Will this myth ever die?

http://www.taxfoundation.org/prtopincome.html

The top 1% of income earners in the US pay 33.71% of the taxes.

The top 5% pay 53.8% of the taxes.

The top 10% pay 65.72%

The wealthy in this country bear a vastly disproportionate burden of the taxes.

When will this myth ever die? You know as well as I do they don't pay that much due to loopholes, deductions and a tax code mired in more complexity than an eleventy billion line BASIC spaghetti code riddled with gotos and gosubs.
 
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Topic Title: Bushes Report Gross Income of $784,219
Topic Summary: paid $207,307 in federal taxes ***THAT'S 26%***

Only 26% tax bracket....hmmmm.
Under Bush we are 3.4 Trillion further in debt, I guess conservative means to conserve nothing.

I'm starting to miss Clinton and that god aweful 39.5% tax rate, at least we had a surplus.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050415/D89G25PG3.html

Nothing surprising here.

He is for the most part successfully pushing an Agenda of no personal income taxes (which benefits the Rich while hurting the poor more) and no Taxes for Corporations either.
 
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: Afrotech
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: Afrotech
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd bet you would feel really pissed off if you were in the bracket when making that much. :rolls; I'm sure you would send an extra $100,000 in to the IRS as a way of saying "thanks."

If I made $800,000 a year I would gladly give 40% to the government if it meant balancing the budget and paying soldiers who fought in wars, and getting rid of all the federal gov't programs that don't work.

Sadly many people don't understand that if you work hard, you have a very good chance at making a lot of money.

The rich work hard and invest their money into new business.
This is why the rich get richer


fixed.... and oh yeah... wrong forum idiot



2. Poor and middle class people work very hard as well, and should take out gov't loans to get a degree in something that will provide a good paying job... not political science 😉

fixed yet again 🙂

and i was calling the OP an idiot, not you... unless you were the OP 😉

1. Good paying jobs that are still below middle class and a lot getting shipped overseas, these are new economy jobs not old jobs.

2. I am the OP.


then i guess workers are going to have to figure out what they can do to make money (can you tell im a free market kinda guy 🙂 )... if you don't want to get paid $5 per hour for a job a kid can do in India for even cheaper.... it's time to find a different job, or live within your means... look at this info about "poor" families:

# Forty-six percent of all poor households own their own homes. The average home owned by persons classified as "poor" by the Census Bureau is a three-bedroom house with one-and-a-half baths, a garage, and a porch or patio.
# Seventy-six percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, 30 years ago, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.
# Only 6 percent of poor households are overcrowded. More than two-thirds have more than two rooms per person.
# The average poor American has more living space than the average individual living in Paris, London, Vienna, Athens, and other cities throughout Europe. (These comparisons are to the average citizens in foreign countries, not to those classified as poor.)
# Nearly three-quarters of poor households own a car; 30 percent own two or more cars.
# Ninety-seven percent of poor households have a color television. Over half own two or more color televisions.
# Seventy-eight percent of America's poor own a VCR or DVD player; 62 percent have cable or satellite TV reception.
# Seventy-three percent of America's poor own microwave ovens; more than half have a stereo; and one-third have an automatic dishwasher.

 
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: funboy42
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd bet you would feel really pissed off if you were in the bracket when making that much. :rolls; I'm sure you would send an extra $100,000 in to the IRS as a way of saying "thanks."
Huh?

He bitched that Bush only paid 26%. I bet if the OP only had to pay 26% in taxes he wouldn't be so pissy.
Isn't that kinda the point, though?

Is it right for someone that makes almost a million dollars in one year to pay 26%, and someone who makes 40,000 to pay 30%(or whatever)?

I don't really know how it all works though.. I am sure they thought of this when they came up with the tax system. 😛

What's more fair? Going by a set percentage, or "discriminating" and taking more from those who make more and less from those who make less?

Thats because all politicians are rich upperclass bastards. Of course they dont want to fvck themselves out of too much money. Its the middle class that pays for everything and as far as the poor goes well I am poor (fam of 4 $5K total last year) we didnt have to pay any taxes but because we didnt make that much we didnt get that much tax credits either. If I made $11K last year we would of gotten them all but because we didnt the government said screw us stay even poorer you get NOTHING!!!!

That mentality won't get you very far.

OH OK thank you for telling me and letting everyone know. If you haddnt mentioned it I would of for some crazy wacky reason thought for maybe a minute that my kind of mentality would go far but thanks to you and telling me I now know that my mentality will not get me to far at all. I was hoping that maybe it may make it to the door step but that was crazy thinking on my part because you told me so.
My bad and thanks for clearing that up. Greatly appreciated 🙂
WHEW and to think I was going to maybe go out today but now I wont, thank God you came along and saved my a$$.

Maybe if I was more like you, your world would be a better place . I mean I am taking up your space and me being a part of your world and being dummer then you must kill you inside knowing I am alive and sharing the same air and space as you. I am sorry I am not as mentality intellegent (is that right it doesnt look to be) as you and I am making your world a sh!tty one with me in it. OH crap I should tell you that I have spawn. I am sorry I actually had sex with another person that isnt as mentality smart as you, slightly smarter then me, but for sure not you. But looks like since we had spawn and were so much stupider then you chancer are they may be too. So what I think I may do so your world is so much better is to help you and the others out that are soooo much better then we are taking up thier air and space is to maybe do a mass family suicide. Just think that my life, and yours, would be so much better of if we didnt stick around. I will no longer bother anyone like you with my dumb and mentaly insane post. The gramar natzis and spell checkers will have one less (possably 3 others if I dont let them live) stupid person to have to read what they wrote, check and make aware that they are stupid, so they can feel better about themselves. That way the only posts anyone will ever see are perfect, mentaly sane, perfect spelled well thought out posts and none from morons like me.

Again thanks for making me aware that I am dumb, and I will try my best to knock us all off this world so you will have a better place for yourself and others like you to enjoy.

Please feel free to check my spelling and gramar and edit to your liking if the way I wrote offends you in any way which I hope it has 🙂
 
if bush paid 26% taxes, it means he has a bad accountant

Using turbo tax i took my tax rate from 28% to 12% on my gross

at least bush paid a higher percentage than some of the rich liberals who push for higher taxes
 
Schwarzenneger paid an extravogent amount in taxes the year before he became governor. It's a political ploy. Bush, Schwarzenneger and other politicians/millionaires do this to save face with their constituents.

Edit: Ross Perot even admitted in '92 that he paid 3% income taxes each year. 3%! Wow! Who's HIS tax accountant?!?!
 
it's pretty easy to do

all you have to do is structure your income the right way

John Edwards did this when he was a lawyer. He would get a small salary and everything else was a dividend from the law firm. He didn't pay FICA on the dividend, it's taxed at a much lower rate and it's easy to write a lot off like this.
 
Originally posted by: sniperruff
Originally posted by: iwantanewcomputer
the surplus under clinton was more because the economy was booming then which is not due to clinton, same as the recession is not do to bush.

starting a war on iraq based on a bunch of lies certainly won't help the economy.


actually...history shows it helps the economy...never heard the wartime economy theories....not that its right or anything...just saying
 
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: funboy42
Its the middle class that pays for everything

Will this myth ever die?

http://www.taxfoundation.org/prtopincome.html

The top 1% of income earners in the US pay 33.71% of the taxes.

The top 5% pay 53.8% of the taxes.

The top 10% pay 65.72%

The wealthy in this country bear a vastly disproportionate burden of the taxes.


another THANK YOU..... its almost punishing people for success
 
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd bet you would feel really pissed off if you were in the bracket when making that much. :rolls; I'm sure you would send an extra $100,000 in to the IRS as a way of saying "thanks."

If I made $800,000 a year I would gladly give 40% to the government if it meant balancing the budget and paying soldiers who fought in wars.

Sadly many live under the delusion that they will be rich one day and that will never occur.

90% of the people here will never make more then $100,000 a year so paying 40% would never be an issue for them.

This is why the rich get richer and the poor get screwed.

no you wouldnt...cause if i did i wouldnt want to...i would want to invest it...to make even more so i can live some for future generations of my family.....no one has any business paying 40% to the govt...no matter how much they make....
 
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd bet you would feel really pissed off if you were in the bracket when making that much. :rolls; I'm sure you would send an extra $100,000 in to the IRS as a way of saying "thanks."

If I made $800,000 a year I would gladly give 40% to the government if it meant balancing the budget and paying soldiers who fought in wars.

Sadly many live under the delusion that they will be rich one day and that will never occur.

90% of the people here will never make more then $100,000 a year so paying 40% would never be an issue for them.

This is why the rich get richer and the poor get screwed.


I've been saying this for years. The majority (99%) of the people that post on this board are poor. They are nobodys and they will gladly screw themselves over so that the millionaires make more money. You are exactly right that they live in a fantasy world. They'll never be rich. EVER. How the Republicans ever got to manipulate millions of poor peasents to fight for their cause is truly a genius move.
 
Originally posted by: Deptacon
Originally posted by: NightCrawler
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
I'd bet you would feel really pissed off if you were in the bracket when making that much. :rolls; I'm sure you would send an extra $100,000 in to the IRS as a way of saying "thanks."

If I made $800,000 a year I would gladly give 40% to the government if it meant balancing the budget and paying soldiers who fought in wars.

Sadly many live under the delusion that they will be rich one day and that will never occur.

90% of the people here will never make more then $100,000 a year so paying 40% would never be an issue for them.

This is why the rich get richer and the poor get screwed.

no you wouldnt...cause if i did i wouldnt want to...i would want to invest it...to make even more so i can live some for future generations of my family.....no one has any business paying 40% to the govt...no matter how much they make....

no one has any business paying 40% to the govt...no matter how much they make...

Really, last I checked that IS Communism and that is exactly where the poor are headed, being under the control of Communist Rich Republican Rule.
 
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