Bush: won't criticize Obama, 'deserves my silence'

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: Robor

Fixed :laugh:

Meh, your opinion.

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: kage69

Kind of like Obama presiding over the worst economy since the great depression.

No, not really. There is so much wrong with your snarky comparison I don't know where to begin.

But if it was "kind of like" that, well then we'd have to ignore things like 'action and reaction' in terms of economics over time, we'd have to ignore Bush ignoring the actual warnings of 9/11 (something you guys do so well btw), as well as pretend there was something analogous for Obama, and then we'd have to equate terrorism on a grand scale with the short-sighted greed of corporatist America.

You're willing to employ that kind of ignorance to fabricate bullshit one liners? Have at it hoss.

Get over yourself :roll:

Over the next year we'll be finding out more and more things hidden away in the OMG WE MUST PASS THESE MASSIVE SPENDING PLANS IMMEDIATELY WITHOUT EVEN READING THEM BECAUSE THE WORLD IS HEADING FOR THE APOCALYPSE!!!! that will continue to eat away at the economic recovery - such as the Teamster payoff in the Omnibus that is sparking a trade war with Mexico :roll: I blame Obama 100% for that.

 

[JACKDRUID]

Originally posted by: Hacp
+1

Bush kept us safe from terrorism.

lol!

more people hate us = safe?

 

[Atreus21]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Phokus
Classy my ass, he's implying that he has criticism for Obama while trumping up his own faux 'classiness'. If he really meant to be silent, he wouldn't even say this.

He's probably butthurt over Obama exposing his wretched human rights violations and his destruction of the constitution... :laugh:

You guys are reaching. If anyone honestly has zero criticisms of any leader (or anyone that they have intimate knowledge of for that matter) then they need a reality check.

You're on my list of liberals on this forum that I respect.

 

[kage69]

Get over yourself

Huh? If you would like to argue what I posted, then by all means take a shot, but your much anticipated speculation over economic recovery investigation does not a point make. Your frothy hyperbole in bold doesn't help, it makes it seem like you've spent too much time watching Fox&Friends...

So you preemptively blame Obama for apocalyptic spending programs, but I have to get over myself? LOL, thanks for that...



I'll see your :roll: with a pair of s...

 

[AreaCode707]

Originally posted by: jonks
Oh, he's still got it! Did anyone catch this in the OP article? Speaking about his upcoming book:

"I'm going to put people in my place, so when the history of this administration is written at least there's an authoritarian voice saying exactly what happened," Bush said.

Oh Georgie, you Freudian slipping putz you. Were you going for "authoritative"? Because authoritative means substantiated or supported by documentary evidence and accepted by most authorities in a field.

Quick refresher mein erstwhile fuhrer, here's the definition of "authoritarian":

?adjective
1. favoring complete obedience or subjection to authority as opposed to individual freedom:
2. of or pertaining to a governmental or political system, principle, or practice in which individual freedom is held as completely subordinate to the power or authority of the state, centered either in one person or a small group that is not constitutionally accountable to the people
3. exercising complete or almost complete control over the will of another or of others

Yeah, maybe he said exactly what he did mean after all.

Heh, I saw that same thing and keyword searched the thread to see if anyone else had commented on it yet. Pretty funny term mix up.

 

[kage69]

You guys are reaching. If anyone honestly has zero criticisms of any leader (or anyone that they have intimate knowledge of for that matter) then they need a reality check.

I don't think anyone is positing that a leader, any leader, can be completely free of criticism.

I do think many folks, myself included, are somewhat amazed by the short amount of time that has passed in which people are already proclaiming Obama to be a failure - and this is largely coming from those who spent 8 years defending Bush's failures, the same group of partisans who gave Bush a free pass for the first 9 months of his office, and who despite having a rubber stamp Congress for his first term managed to get very little done.

Bush just doesn't have any room to critique, I guess someone let him know.

The reality check needed is for those trying to equate Obama's short performance thus far as being on par or worse than his predecessor - but without Obama having the record to support it.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Hacp
Bush kept us safe from terrorism.

Except he presided over the biggest terrorist attack in US history.

yeap. 8 months INTO office. so now we know when the Presidant owns what is going on.


Obama better fix the economy fast..he is running out of time.



oh and you are a retard for blaming 9/11 on bush just as those that will blame the economy on Obama.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: kage69

You guys are reaching. If anyone honestly has zero criticisms of any leader (or anyone that they have intimate knowledge of for that matter) then they need a reality check.

I don't think anyone is positing that a leader, any leader, can be completely free of criticism.

I do think many folks, myself included, are somewhat amazed by the short amount of time that has passed in which people are already proclaiming Obama to be a failure - and this is largely coming from those who spent 8 years defending Bush's failures, the same group of partisans who gave Bush a free pass for the first 9 months of his office, and who despite having a rubber stamp Congress for his first term managed to get very little done.

Bush just doesn't have any room to critique, I guess someone let him know.

The reality check needed is for those trying to equate Obama's short performance thus far as being on par or worse than his predecessor - but without Obama having the record to support it.

I guess you forget that

1. The Senate was controlled by Democrats during much of those 9 months.
2. Gore was trying to steal the election.

 

[bctbct]

If Bush is critical of Obamas decisions we must be on the right track, now stfu already and go cut wood.

 

[LumbergTech]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Phokus
Classy my ass, he's implying that he has criticism for Obama while trumping up his own faux 'classiness'. If he really meant to be silent, he wouldn't even say this.

He's probably butthurt over Obama exposing his wretched human rights violations and his destruction of the constitution... :laugh:

You guys are reaching. If anyone honestly has zero criticisms of any leader (or anyone that they have intimate knowledge of for that matter) then they need a reality check.

quit playing stupid....for fucks sake they are polar opposites in what they claim to support

of course he has heavy criticisms..he just has nothing to gain from doing it

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: kage69

You guys are reaching. If anyone honestly has zero criticisms of any leader (or anyone that they have intimate knowledge of for that matter) then they need a reality check.

I don't think anyone is positing that a leader, any leader, can be completely free of criticism.

I do think many folks, myself included, are somewhat amazed by the short amount of time that has passed in which people are already proclaiming Obama to be a failure - and this is largely coming from those who spent 8 years defending Bush's failures, the same group of partisans who gave Bush a free pass for the first 9 months of his office, and who despite having a rubber stamp Congress for his first term managed to get very little done.

Bush just doesn't have any room to critique, I guess someone let him know.

The reality check needed is for those trying to equate Obama's short performance thus far as being on par or worse than his predecessor - but without Obama having the record to support it.

I guess you forget that

1. The Senate was controlled by Democrats during much of those 9 months.
2. Gore was trying to steal the election.

If reality is too rough, just make up something new!

I love seeing the people jump all over Carter while simultaneously defending Reagan. The fact that Carter could possibly be worse then a president who sold weapons to Iran to fund terrorism is hilarious.

 

[kage69]

I guess you forget that 1. The Senate was controlled by Democrats during much of those 9 months.

Classic cheerleader tactic of misrepresenting what was said. Figures you would parse together the two examples in a way that fits your opinion, but you're a complete hack so I'm not surprised. My citing of Bush's first 9 months was in regards to doing absolutely nothing in regards to terrorism, ignoring the famous memo delivered to his admin citing AQ's desire to strike in the USA. He had a Repub majority in both houses for the majority of his first term, and into 2006, and still - nada.
Glad to see it's your warped memory at fault here, not mine.

2. Gore was trying to steal the election.

I take it back, calling you a hack is an insult to hacks. Gore has nothing to do with this, and any of your conspiratorial, hate drenched delusions even moreso.
Get a life.

 

[kage69]

If reality is too rough, just make up something new! I love seeing the people jump all over Carter while simultaneously defending Reagan. The fact that Carter could possibly be worse then a president who sold weapons to Iran to fund terrorism is hilarious.

You're right, it is hilarious. Can you imagine the level of scorn if Iran Contra had been done at the behest of a Dem?

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: Phokus
Classy my ass, he's implying that he has criticism for Obama while trumping up his own faux 'classiness'. If he really meant to be silent, he wouldn't even say this.

He's probably butthurt over Obama exposing his wretched human rights violations and his destruction of the constitution... :laugh:

You guys are reaching. If anyone honestly has zero criticisms of any leader (or anyone that they have intimate knowledge of for that matter) then they need a reality check.

quit playing stupid....for fucks sake they are polar opposites in what they claim to support

of course he has heavy criticisms..he just has nothing to gain from doing it

I'm not the one playing stupid, Phokus brought it up. And I never said that they were not total opposites.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Hacp
+1

Bush kept us safe from terrorism.

HAHAHAHA

People still spout that nonsense?

let me guess, you are the same people who think obama will cure aids

 

[AndrewR]

Originally posted by: JACKDRUID

Originally posted by: Hacp
+1

Bush kept us safe from terrorism.

lol!

more people hate us = safe?

How many attacks on US soil were there from 11 Sep 2001 to 20 Jan 2009?

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: JACKDRUID

Originally posted by: Hacp
+1

Bush kept us safe from terrorism.

lol!

more people hate us = safe?

How many attacks on US soil were there from 11 Sep 2001 to 20 Jan 2009?

Guys, Bush was only on the job for ONE catastrophic terrorist attack! That means he kept us safe!

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: freshgeardude

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Hacp
+1

Bush kept us safe from terrorism.

HAHAHAHA

People still spout that nonsense?

let me guess, you are the same people who think obama will cure aids

Uh oh.... you got me :roll:

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: AndrewR

Originally posted by: JACKDRUID

Originally posted by: Hacp
+1

Bush kept us safe from terrorism.

lol!

more people hate us = safe?

How many attacks on US soil were there from 11 Sep 2001 to 20 Jan 2009?

Guys, Bush was only on the job for ONE catastrophic terrorist attack! That means he kept us safe!

I hope Obama is luckier than Bush on that account. If not, your partisan hackery above could backfire bigtime.

Keep your fingers crossed.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Hacp
+1

Bush kept us safe from terrorism.

That incident in New York City on September 11, 2001 says otherwise.

9/11 would have happened regardless of who was the president at the time. The hatred had built up over a long period of time.

 

[kage69]

9/11 would have happened regardless of who was the president at the time. The hatred had built up over a long period of time.

I don't think anyone can dispute that.

But I would like to think that 8-9 months of serious consideration from someone as powerful as the PoTUS could have affected the outcome of 9/11 in some beneficial way, compared to what actually occurred.

I think it's fair to wager that the second iteration of Iraq wouldn't have happened regardless of who was president at the time though. Presidents like that only come around so often, guys like Cheney have to act!

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: kage69

9/11 would have happened regardless of who was the president at the time. The hatred had built up over a long period of time.

I don't think anyone can dispute that.

But I would like to think that 8-9 months of serious consideration from someone as powerful as the PoTUS could have affected the outcome of 9/11 in some beneficial way, compared to what actually occurred.

I think it's fair to wager that the second iteration of Iraq wouldn't have happened regardless of who was president at the time though. Presidents like that only come around so often, guys like Cheney have to act!

That's fair, however Bush did have to do something. At least he went into Afghanistan as well. I also think that democracy in Iraq is a good thing, and overall the US won that war and probably achieved even more than they would have hoped.

People may say that Iran was a bigger threat, but had he invaded them, there is a chance we would not be here right now to even talk about it. I wouldn't mess with Iran, personally.

Then there's North Korea. If you want WW3, go after them and watch them nuke South Korea and ignite mayhem in Asia.

I think it's easy to knock Bush in hindsight. I was opposed to the Iraq war from day one, but when it comes to issues like security, I tend to give the man his due credit.

 

[JJChicken]

CALGARY, Alberta (AP) ? Former President George W. Bush said on Tuesday that he won't criticize Barack Obama because the new U.S. president "deserves my silence," and said he plans to write a book about the 12 toughest decisions he made in office.

Bush declined to critique the Obama administration in his first speech since leaving office in January. Former Vice President Dick Cheney has said that Obama's decisions threatened America's safety.

"I'm not going to spend my time criticizing him. There are plenty of critics in the arena," Bush said. "He deserves my silence."

Bush said he wants Obama to succeed and said it's important that he has that support. Talk-show host Rush Limbaugh has said he hoped Obama would fail.

"I love my country a lot more than I love politics," Bush said. "I think it is essential that he be helped in office."

The invitation-only event titled a "Conversation with George W. Bush" attracted close to 2,000 guests who paid $3,100 per table. Bush received two standing ovations from the predominantly business crowd.

About 200 protested outside the event; four of them were arrested. Some protesters threw shoes at an effigy of Bush, a reference to the Iraqi journalist who tossed his shoes at the former president during a December news conference in Baghdad.

"He shouldn't be able to go anywhere in the world and just present himself as a private citizen," protest organizer Peggy Askin said. "We do not have any use for bringing war criminals into this country. It's an affront."

While Bush is unpopular in Canada, he is less so in oil-rich Alberta, the country's most conservative province and one sometimes called the Texas of the north.

"This is my maiden voyage. My first speech since I was the president of the United States and I couldn't think of a better place to give it than Calgary, Canada," Bush said.

The event's organizers declined to say how much Bush was paid to speak at the gathering.
Bush said that he doesn't know what he will do in the long term but that he will write a book that will ask people to consider what they would do if they had to protect the United States as president.

He said it will be fun to write and that "it's going to be (about) the 12 toughest decisions I had to make."

"I'm going to put people in my place, so when the history of this administration is written at least there's an authoritarian voice saying exactly what happened," Bush said.

"I want people to understand what it was like to sit in the Oval Office and have them come in and say we have captured Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the mastermind of the Sept. 11 attacks, the alleged killer of a guy named Danny Pearl because he was simply Jewish, and we think we have information on further attacks on the United States," Bush said.
Bush didn't specify what the 12 hardest decisions were but said Iraq is better off without Saddam Hussein in power.

Bush was also full of jokes during his appearance. He joked that he would do more speeches to pay for his new house in Dallas.

"I actually paid for a house last fall. I think I'm the only American to have bought a house in the fall of 2008," he quipped.

He also said his mother is doing well. Barbara Bush was released from a Houston hospital Friday, nine days after undergoing heart surgery. "Clearly he can't live without her," Bush said of his father and former President George H.W. Bush.

Bush seemed to enjoy himself even though the event started later than expected because of tight security. "I'll sit here all day," Bush said during a question-and-answer session. "I'm flattered people even want to hear me in the first place."

Yep, that's class right there :thumbups; Gotta give the man his dues.

 

[JJChicken]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: kage69

You guys are reaching. If anyone honestly has zero criticisms of any leader (or anyone that they have intimate knowledge of for that matter) then they need a reality check.

I don't think anyone is positing that a leader, any leader, can be completely free of criticism.

I do think many folks, myself included, are somewhat amazed by the short amount of time that has passed in which people are already proclaiming Obama to be a failure - and this is largely coming from those who spent 8 years defending Bush's failures, the same group of partisans who gave Bush a free pass for the first 9 months of his office, and who despite having a rubber stamp Congress for his first term managed to get very little done.

Bush just doesn't have any room to critique, I guess someone let him know.

The reality check needed is for those trying to equate Obama's short performance thus far as being on par or worse than his predecessor - but without Obama having the record to support it.

I guess you forget that

1. The Senate was controlled by Democrats during much of those 9 months.
2. Gore was trying to steal the election.

hahahahahhahahaha...hahahahahhahahaha.breathes.hahahahahahhahahahahah

I :heart: winnar111