Bush was born with a silver spoon in his mouth!

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: conjur
Bush is smart? He just tested well on the SATs.

If Bush was smart, you'd think he would read more or, at the least, allow people to give him reports when they brief him. Bush wants sound bites and short memos so he doesn't have to think too much.

If Bush were smart, ...

If you mean in the formal sense, yes. But, informally, 'was' is still valid.

http://grammar.englishclub.com/verbs-subjunctive.htm

Informal=wrong, but accepted? Are these synonymous in schools today? If so, chalk-up another victory for public education It's no wonder SAT scores have been shown to improve over time...some like to change the rules to accommodate misusage, in the name of 'social acceptability'

Damn, I told you they changed the rules on this sometime last year. As much as it pains me and my elegantly refined ear to hear people say "If I was you..." it is a fact that how people use language is what makes for correct, and that irregardless of your opinion. Irregardless...I'm going to be sick. What perversion turns a man into a grammar Nazi. So much better that a man live a brief life than that he have to suffer the agony of experienced linguistic evolution. Me and Galt are as bad as the French.

 

[Moonbeam]

By the way, if Bush was born with a silver spoon in his mouth I think he must have fallen on it and pushed it into his brain. And I LOVE his English.

 

[chess9]

Galt:

The subjunctive has lost that war to usage.

One man's solecism is another's standard of usage I'm afraid. Even our language has become fat and ugly....

-Robert

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: chess9
Galt:

The subjunctive has lost that war to usage.

One man's solecism is another's standard of usage I'm afraid. Even our language has become fat and ugly....

-Robert

Don't you mean corpulent and homely?

 

[xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx]

Originally posted by: chess9
Galt:

The subjunctive has lost that war to usage.

One man's solecism is another's standard of usage I'm afraid. Even our language has become fat and ugly....

-Robert

Yea, so I have heard. You should see how I cringe when people say to me, "The data is...." Nevertheless, I think I'll continue to follow the 'old-school' rules.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: chess9
Galt:

The subjunctive has lost that war to usage.

One man's solecism is another's standard of usage I'm afraid. Even our language has become fat and ugly....

-Robert

Don't you mean corpulent and homely?

Our language is an anorexic clothed in K-Mart polyester. Our language is a Packard Bell with a keyboard stuck on Caps Lock. Our language has been mugged by roving bands of the corpulent and homely. They have stolen her beauty and distinction, they have torn apart her finest raiments and used them for toilet paper. They crap out their ignorance and they do not flush.

I cry for our language. No one weeds her cultured garden. We do not practice linguistic ecology. Beautiful, distinctive forms of human expression, too fragile to survive the mob unaided, too finely parsed for the slavering utilitarian hordes, are stomped into extinction.

We will one day wake up to a desert, some sadly infinite regression to a brutally unadorned mean.

Dogs. Think of dogs. All dogs, from toy poodles to Great Danes, if left to interbreed, would eventually regress to a tannish brown, 35-40 lb. mutt. Hardy, to be sure, but is this what we want for out beautiful English language?

Perhaps we should also jettison many of our obviously superfluous shades and hues, until we get down to a Crayola 16 pack of admirably egalitarian compactness, more easily comprehended by those troubled or flummoxed by complexity.

We are living linguistically in a French revolution. Do not ask for whom that guillotine awaits, "egghead", it has been honed and hoisted for thee.

Ok, I got that off my chest. On the other hand, shift happens, and there is no other constant by change. Fire is necessary for the health of the forest. Yin moves into Yang moves into Yin, implies the whole.

"First, there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is."

Still, I weep for the maginificent artifice that is my English language, a language with twice as many words as most any other on this planet, a language whose capacity to describe the new undergirds our dynamic capacity to then go build it.

Barkeep, bring me another.

 

[PanzerIV]

When's the last time we had a President that wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth?? Lincoln, maybe? By far they are typically much wealthier than the average citizen can ever hope to be.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: PanzerIV
When's the last time we had a President that wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth?? Lincoln, maybe? By far they are typically much wealthier than the average citizen can ever hope to be.

My God, we'd have to go all the way back to the 42nd, William Jefferson Clinton. Shrouded in the mists of antiquity, not much is now know about the man.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: PanzerIV
When's the last time we had a President that wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth?? Lincoln, maybe? By far they are typically much wealthier than the average citizen can ever hope to be.

Did Clinton come from a filthy rich family? I thought he was pretty much self-made with his Rhodes scholarship.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: PanzerIV
When's the last time we had a President that wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth?? Lincoln, maybe? By far they are typically much wealthier than the average citizen can ever hope to be.

My God, we'd have to go all the way back to the 42nd, William Jefferson Clinton. Shrouded in the mists of antiquity, not much is now know about the man.

lol

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: PanzerIV
When's the last time we had a President that wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth?? Lincoln, maybe? By far they are typically much wealthier than the average citizen can ever hope to be.

My God, we'd have to go all the way back to the 42nd, William Jefferson Clinton. Shrouded in the mists of antiquity, not much is now know about the man.

I've heard that he once wrestled a real life bear and killed it with only using his toes!

I've also read that he once tamed a monkey and taught it how to talk and communicate to humans!

The stuff of legends...

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

I've also read that he once tamed a monkey and taught it how to talk and communicate to humans!

And that chimp also became President!

 

[PanzerIV]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: PanzerIV
When's the last time we had a President that wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth?? Lincoln, maybe? By far they are typically much wealthier than the average citizen can ever hope to be.

My God, we'd have to go all the way back to the 42nd, William Jefferson Clinton. Shrouded in the mists of antiquity, not much is now know about the man.

Touche, but before him?? My point was most are never going to be in touch with the common man because they are not "common" by birth.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: PanzerIV

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: PanzerIV
When's the last time we had a President that wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth?? Lincoln, maybe? By far they are typically much wealthier than the average citizen can ever hope to be.

My God, we'd have to go all the way back to the 42nd, William Jefferson Clinton. Shrouded in the mists of antiquity, not much is now know about the man.

Touche, but before him?? My point was most are never going to be in touch with the common man because they are not "common" by birth.

Harry Truman was originally a haberdasher from a resolutely middle class Missouri family.

Lyndon Johnson was born in a farmhouse and grew up amidst poverty, went to regular public schools, and graduated from a Texas state teachers college.

 

[Perknose]

But back to Dub and that silver spoon:

Former Texas Agricultural Commisioner Jim Hightower hit it on the head when he said "George W. Bush was born on third base but keeps acting like he hit a triple."

Ann Richards said about Bush the elder, ""Poor George! He can't help it. He was born with a silver foot in his mouth!"

 

[Moonbeam]

Old LunarRay is on a vision quest of virtue over evil and probably won't be around, but there's a guy that sure knows how to talk pretty. One of them damn poet types, a regular paladin of prosy speach absent any sort of legerdemain.

 

[conehead433]

quote:

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he graduated from Yale. . . .

And I'm sure that Bush Sr. can tell you how much that degree cost, not that he necessarily had anything to do with Jr. actually graduating of course.

 

[chess9]

Perknose:

Bwuahahahaha! "Shift happens"?

-Robert

 

[PELarson]

Nixon

Reagan

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: PanzerIV

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: PanzerIV
When's the last time we had a President that wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth?? Lincoln, maybe? By far they are typically much wealthier than the average citizen can ever hope to be.

My God, we'd have to go all the way back to the 42nd, William Jefferson Clinton. Shrouded in the mists of antiquity, not much is now know about the man.

Touche, but before him?? My point was most are never going to be in touch with the common man because they are not "common" by birth.

Of the last 12 Presidents
4 came from extermenly wealthy backgrounds - FDR/JFK/GHWB/GWB

1 probably better off than most James Earl Carter, family peanut farm.

the rest from the middle or poor strata of society.

 

[jagec]

nm I'm stupid.

 

[fjord]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

What I wrote was that Bush is mediocre

What you wrote is plain for all to see:

Most average folk who identify with Bush, do so not because of his money, nor because of his ranch--they identify with him because of his intellect. More specifically because of his very average intellect.
I'm not of the opinion that Bush is of low intellect, he isn't--but he is the very definition of mediocre.
In a nutshell, Bush is a true mediocre intellect.
This is comforting to some (?), but I prefer the president of the United States to be at least above average.

your elitist rant consists of sneering at the "average" american because of their "average" intellect, and in your last sentance sneering at Bush for the same thing.

at least on the basis of his SAT scores and his matriculation from Yale and Harvard (apparently he didn't flunk out or drop out like Gore did, twice)....your implication that Bush is stupid can only be base on your hatred of him, and not any facts.

but all that aside, i'm sure you still think he's stupid, and for that matter, me too...

Nowhere do I say Bush is stupid or dumb, or below average in my post--not in what you chose to bold, nor anywhere else--

In fact, I explicitly say: "I'm not of the opinion that Bush is of low intellect, he isn't--but he is the very definition of mediocre.
In a nutshell, Bush is a true mediocre intellect."

How could anyone possibly misread that passage?

I'll give you an "In other words" (which are actually the same words): Bush is mediocre, and mediocre of intellect. This is why I think average people identify with him.

I am prepared to repeat my post as many times as necessary--should you continue to misrepresent my simple declarative statements.

Perhaps you are so accustomed to defending Bush from those who question his intellect--that you can't see when someone is giving Bush the benefit of the doubt.

 

[conjur]

Well, his scores were typically in the 70s. Just look at the image of his transcript I posted earlier. Bush was a 'C' student at best.

 

[LunarRay]

Bush was born with a silver spoon in his mouth!
Topic Summary: he can't relate to the average Joe...

In another thread was mentioned the likelihood of God speaking to and directing the actions of our President... IF this is true and the notion of this thread is true then it follows that God can stand in the President's stead. IE: God can't relate to the average Joe. We all know that God prefers the lesser of mankind given the proclivities of the others... So... God don't talk to the President and the President relates TO the puppet masters who effect their Agenda through the lesser elite of which the President is a member.

 

[LunarRay]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Old LunarRay is on a vision quest of virtue over evil and probably won't be around, but there's a guy that sure knows how to talk pretty. One of them damn poet types, a regular paladin of prosy speach absent any sort of legerdemain.

Edit to include my response which seems to have disappeared.. hmmmmm..

I think a name change is in order for the President... Bush seems just too unkempt... I suggest 'Acacia'. It is a bush. It is far easier to fit into a stanza of reasonable prose.. if one were so inclined to develop.

Set amonst the weeds of politics are stately redwoods and simple acacia. To find the one look to the other.

edit to include... 'legerdemain' response... hehehehe.

Only the author knows the mind of the author..

A poem is like a recipe...
simple words and metaphor...
the poet prepares the meal...
the reader consumes...
according to his taste...