Bush was born with a silver spoon in his mouth!

[TechJunkie95242]

I've read that many newspapers, news magazine has actually questioned if he is smart enough to run the country.. I don't think he is, second thing is that I have also heard is IQ is 91.. A very low average.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: TechJunkie95242
I've read that many newspapers, news magazine has actually questioned if he is smart enough to run the country.. I don't think he is, second thing is that I have also heard is IQ is 91.. A very low average.

Hmm, been to snopes lately?

 

[RabidMongoose]

I've heard that he's really a chimp in a human costume.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
i'm "stupid"

There, fixed it for you.

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

I prefer the president of the United States to be at least above average.

well, lets see if your hateful screed has any truth to it...

Bush's SAT score from 1968
verbal 566 (80th%)
math 640 (80th%)
overall score 1206

1968
verbal 400 (50th%)
math 450(50th%)

all you kids got markedly dumber and the SAT scores got so low, that in 1994 they "adjusted" the scores upward, so the 50th% scores now are above 500 each.

To offset the steady downward drift of test scores over the years, the scoring scale was adjusted upward so that the mean score for both math and verbal was again 500 (the midpoint on a scale of 200 to 800). Those who took the test before 1994 are now entitled to add a prescribed amount to their scores to see how they compare to students today...Doing the same for Bush gives him 640 on both verbal and math, good enough for 88th percentile on the verbal and 86th in math were he entering college now

Yale undergrad, Harvard Business School....and this indicates below average intelligence? you've got to be either kidding, or just another Bush-Hater....

liberals like to imagine they are smarter than everyone else, and if somebody doesn't share their point of view, they must be "stupid"

i bet you think i'm "stupid"

i would be delighted if you could provide us with some concrete information about your level of "intelligence", specifically your SAT scores/percentile rank, any national recognized academic honors, degrees earned and which academic institutions attended...

I'm sure Bush having legacy status had nothing to do with him getting into Yale.....

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

I prefer the president of the United States to be at least above average.

well, lets see if your hateful screed has any truth to it...

Bush's SAT score from 1968
verbal 566 (80th%)
math 640 (80th%)
overall score 1206

1968
verbal 400 (50th%)
math 450(50th%)

all you kids got markedly dumber and the SAT scores got so low, that in 1994 they "adjusted" the scores upward, so the 50th% scores now are above 500 each.

To offset the steady downward drift of test scores over the years, the scoring scale was adjusted upward so that the mean score for both math and verbal was again 500 (the midpoint on a scale of 200 to 800). Those who took the test before 1994 are now entitled to add a prescribed amount to their scores to see how they compare to students today...Doing the same for Bush gives him 640 on both verbal and math, good enough for 88th percentile on the verbal and 86th in math were he entering college now

Yale undergrad, Harvard Business School....and this indicates below average intelligence? you've got to be either kidding, or just another Bush-Hater....

liberals like to imagine they are smarter than everyone else, and if somebody doesn't share their point of view, they must be "stupid"

i bet you think i'm "stupid"

i would be delighted if you could provide us with some concrete information about your level of "intelligence", specifically your SAT scores/percentile rank, any national recognized academic honors, degrees earned and which academic institutions attended...

I'm pretty sure I got a 640 math and 750 verbal on the SAT, not sure of the percentile rank; 32 composite score on the ACT; 165 on the LSAT, 93rd percentile.

I can post my resume for perusal if you wish.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Getting an 80th percentile on the SAT isn't very good...definitely not good enough to gain acceptance into Yale on purely academic talent.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
I've heard that he's really a chimp in a human costume.

And Kerry was Fred Gwynns lovechild. Fred Gwynne didnt like women, Kerry was a buttbaby.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Getting an 80th percentile on the SAT isn't very good...definitely not good enough to gain acceptance into Yale on purely academic talent.

So youre saying that he needed money and the high scores? Thats just bs, he should have been dirt poor and been in the 95th percentile!

:roll:

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Getting an 80th percentile on the SAT isn't very good...definitely not good enough to gain acceptance into Yale on purely academic talent.

So youre saying that he needed money and the high scores? Thats just bs, he should have been dirt poor and been in the 95th percentile!

:roll:

I'm saying that he needed something else to get him accepted into Yale. An 80th percentile SAT score is OK, but definitely not good enough by itself to get into a school such as Yale. His family legacy helped more than his test scores, IMO.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Getting an 80th percentile on the SAT isn't very good...definitely not good enough to gain acceptance into Yale on purely academic talent.

So youre saying that he needed money and the high scores? Thats just bs, he should have been dirt poor and been in the 95th percentile!

:roll:

I'm saying that he needed something else to get him accepted into Yale. An 80th percentile SAT score is OK, but definitely not good enough by itself to get into a school such as Yale. His family legacy helped more than his test scores, IMO.

Is that wrong?

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Getting an 80th percentile on the SAT isn't very good...definitely not good enough to gain acceptance into Yale on purely academic talent.

So youre saying that he needed money and the high scores? Thats just bs, he should have been dirt poor and been in the 95th percentile!

:roll:

I'm saying that he needed something else to get him accepted into Yale. An 80th percentile SAT score is OK, but definitely not good enough by itself to get into a school such as Yale. His family legacy helped more than his test scores, IMO.

Is that wrong?

What do you think?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Getting an 80th percentile on the SAT isn't very good...definitely not good enough to gain acceptance into Yale on purely academic talent.

So youre saying that he needed money and the high scores? Thats just bs, he should have been dirt poor and been in the 95th percentile!

:roll:

I'm saying that he needed something else to get him accepted into Yale. An 80th percentile SAT score is OK, but definitely not good enough by itself to get into a school such as Yale. His family legacy helped more than his test scores, IMO.

Is that wrong?

In a perfect world, yes it is wrong.

However, I'm not making a case for or against legacies...just that on a purely academic level, Bush did not really 'deserve' to go to Yale.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Getting an 80th percentile on the SAT isn't very good...definitely not good enough to gain acceptance into Yale on purely academic talent.

So youre saying that he needed money and the high scores? Thats just bs, he should have been dirt poor and been in the 95th percentile!

:roll:

I'm saying that he needed something else to get him accepted into Yale. An 80th percentile SAT score is OK, but definitely not good enough by itself to get into a school such as Yale. His family legacy helped more than his test scores, IMO.

Is that wrong?

In a perfect world, yes it is wrong.

However, I'm not making a case for or against legacies...just that on a purely academic level, Bush did not really 'deserve' to go to Yale.

Berkeley is for smart kids with no money, isnt that enough? Must all educational institutions be ruled by liberal idealogies?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Getting an 80th percentile on the SAT isn't very good...definitely not good enough to gain acceptance into Yale on purely academic talent.

So youre saying that he needed money and the high scores? Thats just bs, he should have been dirt poor and been in the 95th percentile!

:roll:

I'm saying that he needed something else to get him accepted into Yale. An 80th percentile SAT score is OK, but definitely not good enough by itself to get into a school such as Yale. His family legacy helped more than his test scores, IMO.

Is that wrong?

In a perfect world, yes it is wrong.

However, I'm not making a case for or against legacies...just that on a purely academic level, Bush did not really 'deserve' to go to Yale.

Berkeley is for smart kids with no money, isnt that enough? Must all educational institutions be ruled by liberal idealogies?

I don't care about liberal or conservative places. I myself went to a conservative university.

All I am saying is that Bush most likely did not deserve to be accepted into Yale based solely on his academic talents. While an 80th percentile on the SAT is solid, even a 90th percentile on the SAT probably isn't even good enough to get accepted to Yale for the average student.

 

[heartsurgeon]

the original quote i referred to implied that Bush was "below average" in intelligence.

i have documented that Bush's SAT scores were well above average.

curiously, the topic seems to have morphed into an argument that Bush "isn't smart enough"

i never really expected any of you liberals to change your impression of him as "stupid", it's not in your nature.

as for me - SAT 1972
verbal 710
math 760

In addition, SAT scores were artificially inflated beginning in 1995. As you may recall, that year the testing service "re-centered" the test to ensure that 500 was the average score on each part of the test ? math and verbal. Basically, since the scores range from 200 to 800 on each test, the College Board wanted 500 to be the average score. But most kids were scoring below 500, so the College Board began adding points to each student's results to bring the averages up ? roughly 75 points on the average verbal score and 20 points on the math.

gee, i guess that means my scores in 2003 would have been
verbal 785
math 780

gosh! i feel even smarter now!

Oh, yea, i almost forgot....
phi beta kappa in college
alpha omega alpha medical school
and yes, i really am a heartsurgeon.

yep, i'm just another "stupid" conservative.

 

[RabidMongoose]

As for me:
800 Verbal
801 Math (special bonus - I am the only person to get over a 1600)

I'm also an astronaut and a surgeon, too.

 

[fjord]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
the original quote i referred to implied that Bush was "below average" in intelligence.

i have documented that Bush's SAT scores were well above average.

curiously, the topic seems to have morphed into an argument that Bush "isn't smart enough"

i never really expected any of you liberals to change your impression of him as "stupid", it's not in your nature.

as for me - SAT 1972
verbal 710
math 760

In addition, SAT scores were artificially inflated beginning in 1995. As you may recall, that year the testing service "re-centered" the test to ensure that 500 was the average score on each part of the test ? math and verbal. Basically, since the scores range from 200 to 800 on each test, the College Board wanted 500 to be the average score. But most kids were scoring below 500, so the College Board began adding points to each student's results to bring the averages up ? roughly 75 points on the average verbal score and 20 points on the math.

gee, i guess that means my scores in 2003 would have been
verbal 785
math 780

gosh! i feel even smarter now!

Oh, yea, i almost forgot....
phi beta kappa in college
alpha omega alpha medical school
and yes, i really am a heartsurgeon.

yep, i'm just another "stupid" conservative.

You guys kill me.

What I wrote was that Bush is mediocre, and that the mediocre people that identify with Bush, do so because of their shared mediocrity.

SAT scores and Ivy league degrees may impress some--but not me. I'm not esily impressed by things that can be bought.

Every time Bush speaks, I make a judgement, every decision he makes, I make a judgement.
Bush ranges between barbarous and average, across the board.

 

[Ozoned]

Bush was born with a silver spoon in his mouth!
Topic Summary: he can't relate to the average joe...
Created On: 05/02/2004 05:08 PM

I'm guessing being born with that the chip on your shoulder was really painful, compared to having been born with a silver spoon in your mouth..

If it was me, I would get rid of the chip, and find my own damn spoon..

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
i'm just another "stupid" conservative.

 

[0roo0roo]

Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
We shouldn't have an average joe as president.

What was Kerry's immediate family like anyways?

...usually hanging out on the deck of JFK's boat in Martha's Vineyard, like most common folk did at that time.

eh, don't fight a war you can't win.

kerry dodged bullets and faced death with the "common folk" while bush used his family name to duck service. what houses or ranches they have are rather irrelevant compared to such things.

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: conehead433
That should have been 'born with a silver spoon up his nose'.

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon

I prefer the president of the United States to be at least above average.

well, lets see if your hateful screed has any truth to it...

Bush's SAT score from 1968
verbal 566 (80th%)
math 640 (80th%)
overall score 1206

Do you have a link for this?

 

[J Heartless Slick]

Originally posted by: tec699
Bush is worth millions. He should give his money to the poor and only then will he get the respect that he needs to gain that liberal vote.

He needs to lose that silver spoon and should stop sucking on mama Bush's tit.

IMHO, it is okay to be rich.

 

[freegeeks]

Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
the original quote i referred to implied that Bush was "below average" in intelligence.

i have documented that Bush's SAT scores were well above average.

curiously, the topic seems to have morphed into an argument that Bush "isn't smart enough"

i never really expected any of you liberals to change your impression of him as "stupid", it's not in your nature.

as for me - SAT 1972
verbal 710
math 760

In addition, SAT scores were artificially inflated beginning in 1995. As you may recall, that year the testing service "re-centered" the test to ensure that 500 was the average score on each part of the test ? math and verbal. Basically, since the scores range from 200 to 800 on each test, the College Board wanted 500 to be the average score. But most kids were scoring below 500, so the College Board began adding points to each student's results to bring the averages up ? roughly 75 points on the average verbal score and 20 points on the math.

gee, i guess that means my scores in 2003 would have been
verbal 785
math 780

gosh! i feel even smarter now!

Oh, yea, i almost forgot....
phi beta kappa in college
alpha omega alpha medical school
and yes, i really am a heartsurgeon.

yep, i'm just another "stupid" conservative.

I never really understood how an academically smart person like you can spew such bs every day in this forum