Bush uses derogatory term for Pakistani's on air.

[Nitemare]

<< where are you getting your facts from! "hindu is a religion that was formed to resist the muslim invasion..."?! first, just like christian is not a religion, hindu is not a religion. a hindu is a follower of hinduism, just as a christian is a follower of christianity. second, hinduism is one of the oldest religions of the world. it existed thousands of years before islam or christianity. i think you are confusing sikhism with hinduism. "Muslims have numerous branches like christianity.."? Christianity is not a branch of Islam, though Christ is considered a prophet by the Muslims. Finally, not all of Kashmir is desolate mountain land. from what i've read, the summer capital area, srinagar, is a very beautiful, scenic valley in the himalayas. >>



By jove you are correct about the confusion of the sikhs and hindus, my apologies. But aside from that as well the religions clash and everyone knows that religions can't coexist...

*cough* holy wars, crusades, protestants, the catholic-baptist feud, Palestine and Israel, and pretty much every religion is guilty of it in one way or another...be it armed confrontation or the hare krishnas at the airport, the jehovas witness's going door to door, or those christian zealots that pass out those "if you die tomorrow do you know if you will go to heaven" cards...forcing their religion on others. I had not heard of srinagar as well. Thanks for enlightening me.

Did not the talibans originate in Pakistan anyways and isn't there alot of kill all American pigs mentality prevalent in Pakistan anyways? During the opening days of the whole ordeal with Afghanistan, the terrorists where inside the borders of Pakistan as well as Afghanistan and some other countries. As far as I am concerned they were knowingly harboring terrorists as well. It's just the question whether they did it out of fear or out of sympathy.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

Can't be bothered to read the whole thread, but 'Pakis' is still used in the UK, and not in a positive way.

 

[absolutiza]

whoa.. "beloved patriot" is a slur? since when?

 

[kgraeme]

<< whoa.. "beloved patriot" is a slur? since when? >>



Since it was invented. It was created as a slur.

 

[mAdD INDIAN]

Hinduism (in my eyes) is more of a philosophy than a religion.

 

[DCFife]

Let me get this straight...people from some country on the other side of the planet crash our own planes into our own buildings, others burn effigies of our leaders in the streets and chant about destroying the "Great Satan" but somebody flies into a tizzy about our president using the word "Pakis"??? WTF, over?

 

[chansen]

It's not that a single slip-of-the-tongue is about to cause an international incident, but it is funny that the Leader of the Free World can't avoid these basic malapropisms.

I suspected that the election of Bush would, if nothing else, provide for better sound bites on the news compared to Gore. Neither one has the speaking ability to inspire a little league team, but at least George is entertaining.

 

[dlrsuperman]

Many of you are becoming overly obsessive with overanalyzing the word "beloved patriot" by relating it to other words like "jap" or "iraqi" The fact is that the word was/is used in Britain as a demoralizing and derrogatory term for people of Pakistani ethnicity. It doesn't matter what word the racists decided to use, the true thing that matters is the intention behind saying the word. Those in Britain that refer to people as "Pakis" are doing it out of hatred, racism, and ignorance. Therefore the word becomes the symbol of that. Those that are ignorant of it should now become aware of it. It is equivalent to the word "great person" in politcal correctness.

 

[HansHurt]

<< Many of you are becoming overly obsessive with overanalyzing the word "beloved patriot" by relating it to other words like "jap" or "iraqi" The fact is that the word was/is used in Britain as a demoralizing and derrogatory term for people of Pakistani ethnicity. It doesn't matter what word the racists decided to use, the true thing that matters is the intention behind saying the word. Those in Britain that refer to people as "Pakis" are doing it out of hatred, racism, and ignorance. Therefore the word becomes the symbol of that. Those that are ignorant of it should now become aware of it. It is equivalent to the word "great person" in politcal correctness. >>




That's why I used the word "Jap" in comparison, it IS derrogatory.

 

[BAER]

Bush is the man!
at least for now

 

[ajb35]

I can't believe I wasted all this time reading this post. You all want to get upset about some unintentional name calling, that's fine, but your wasting it for when he sends this country full of people who celebrate the american ppl's pain back to the stone age.

 

[TheWart]

what a load of bull. when the presidential staff starts using this term on a regular basis, when the U.S. shows ANY signs of antagonism towards Pakistan, when words mean the same thing in all languages, dialects, and regions, when all these criteria are met, I'll say that Bush's use of the word was intentionally racist, not before. get off your high horses, media pundits, and start reporting something important.

 

[Hammer]

Ok, I'm from Texas and I had know idea "Pakis" was considered offensive and derogatory. You know why? Because here it is not. It is a British slur. It is ridiculous to criticize someone use a word that has another meaning as slang in a different country. Please use your heard. GWB did not and would not say it if he knew it was deragatory, defintely not his style, he is not a prejudiced person at all. I think he was using it as a term of familiarity and comraderie at the time like when we say the "Brits" or they say the "Yanks".