Bush: U.S. is not headed for recession

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<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23389508">Bush: U.S. is not headed for recession
President rejects any further stimulus measures for now</a>

WASHINGTON - President Bush said Thursday the country is not recession-bound and, despite expressing concern about slowing economic growth, rejected for now any additional stimulus efforts. "We acted robustly," he said.

"We'll see the effects of this pro-growth package," Bush told reporters at a White House news conference, acknowledging that some lawmakers already are talking about a second stimulus package. "Why don't we let stimulus package 1, which seemed like a good idea at the time, have a chance to kick in?"

Bush's view of the economy was decidedly rosier than that of many economists, who say the country is nearing recession territory or may already be there. "I'm concerned about the economy," he said. "I don't think we're headed to recession. But no question, we're in a slowdown."

The centerpiece of government efforts to brace the wobbly economy is a package Congress passed and Bush signed last month. It will rush rebates ranging from $300 to $1,200 to millions of people and give tax incentives to businesses.

On one issue particularly worrisome to American consumers, there are indications that paying $4 for a gallon of gasoline is not out of the question once the summer driving season arrives. Asked about that, Bush said "That's interesting. I hadn't heard that. ... I know it's high now."


Bush also telegraphed optimism about the U.S. dollar, which has been declining in value.

"I believe that our economy has got the fundamentals in place for us to ... grow and continue growing, more robustly hopefully than we're growing now," he said. "So we're still for a strong dollar."

Bush also used his news conference to press Congress to give telecommunications companies legal immunity for helping the government eavesdrop after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Bush criticized the Democratic presidential candidates over their attempts to disassociate themselves from the North American Free Trade Agreement, a free-trade pact between the U.S., Canada and Mexico. Bush said the deal is contributing to more and better-paying jobs for Americans.


Following his news conference, Bush traveled to the Labor Department to meet with his economic advisers.

Afterward, he expressed confidence in the nation's ability to weather the economic downturn.

"We'll make it through this period just like we made it through other periods of uncertainty during my presidency," Bush said.

I guess what he is saying is Don't worry be Happy
 

nageov3t

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President rejects any further stimulus measures for now

thank god for small measures.

the last thing we need is more stimulus pork packages that will have no impact in stimulating the economy.
 

Rike

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Originally posted by: 1prophet
<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23389508">Bush: U.S. is not headed for recession
President rejects any further stimulus measures for now</a>

I'm afraid that just another statement that will be up there will "yellow cake" and WMDs.

Edit: Although I agree with the no more pork sentiment.
 

Fern

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Following his news conference, Bush traveled to the Labor Department to meet with his economic advisers.

Maybe it's just me, but I think you have that meeting BEFORE giving a speech about the economy, not after.

"Why don't we let stimulus package 1, which seemed like a good idea at the time, have a chance to kick in?"

Seems reasonable to me. Or is Congress already admitting last week's package sucks?

Fern
 

techs

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If I had all the oil stocks Bush has I wouldn't worry about a recession either.
 

techs

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Originally posted by: Jaskalas
What should the President be doing to save the economy? What can he do?

Its the Pottery Barn rule.
You break it, you bought.

 

SSSnail

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He can start with a resignation, and firing of a lot of his cabinet members.
 

Train

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Why should we be considering more stimulus when the last package hasnt even hit yet? Aren't the checks supposed to hit in June? By then the economy will probably already be back in an upswing.
 

Train

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Originally posted by: techs
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
What should the President be doing to save the economy? What can he do?

Its the Pttery Barn rule.
You break it, you bought.
Ya he broke it by giving "preferred trading partner" status to China, who in turn unleashed dirt cheap mass manufacturing on the US, and putting his John Hancock on NAFTA...

oh wait that was Clinton.
 

bamacre

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Bush saying that we are not heading for a recession leads me to believe we are headed straight for a recession.
 

Thump553

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In other Bush intelligence on the economy, he is threatening to veto proposed extensions of alternate energy development tax credits, because the bill proposes those tax credits to be funded by eliminating some of the special tax credits already given to the oil industry. In Bush's little world, this amounts to an unacceptable increased tax on the oil industry.

Oh well, when we are paying patent royalties to German, French and Japanese firms for the alternate energy methods they develop, and when workers in those countries are doing the manufacturing of those products instead of in the USA, at least we will have the comfort of knowing Bush went the extra yard to protect short term record profits in his favor sector of the economy.

 

Midnight Rambler

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He's right on one account ... we're not heading for a recession, we're already there.

Most so-called "economic indicators" are trailing indicators ...
 

piasabird

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Have economists been more right or more wrong? I dont think most economists know anything.

I mean a complete idiot can look at rising costs for houses and come to the conclusion that prices can only keep going up for so long, then people will not be able to afford the cost of a house. If prices go up higher than the market can bare, then it is time for a correction.

In the USA, most homes are just built too large and we have too much stuff. That is my conclusion. We have been convinced by the housing industry that bigger is better and we have to live in a big house. Do 4 walls look any better when they are bigger?

Maybe a really big house is like a giant Phallus Symbol!
 

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In other news, house foreclosures are at a all time high, the dollar is loosing value, gov. has closed the economic indicator site, but all these things don't matter since bush said we're not in a recession.
 

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Originally posted by: piasabird
Have economists been more right or more wrong? I dont think most economists know anything.

I mean a complete idiot can look at rising costs for houses and come to the conclusion that prices can only keep going up for so long, then people will not be able to afford the cost of a house. If prices go up higher than the market can bare, then it is time for a correction.

In the USA, most homes are just built too large and we have too much stuff. That is my conclusion. We have been convinced by the housing industry that bigger is better and we have to live in a big house. Do 4 walls look any better when they are bigger?

Maybe a really big house is like a giant Phallus Symbol!

Much of it stems from the fact that Americans are financially 'illiterate' (according to a recent Dartmouth and Harvard study). Consumerism in the US breeds financial irresponsibility and people are getting driven deeper and deeper into debt. Wake up, people! Its not that hard. If you can't afford it.... DON'T BUY IT!
 
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Originally posted by: Midnight Rambler
He's right on one account ... we're not heading for a recession, we're already there.

Most so-called "economic indicators" are trailing indicators ...

This was my thought. You can't head for somewhere you already are. I'm not heading to Oregon later; I'm already here. Similarly, the US isn't heading towards a recession; it's in one. Thus Bush is absolutely correct (I can't believe I just said that).
 
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Captain of the Titanic: "We are not headed for an iceberg."

The economy has been on the rocks since 2001 but some of the damage was masked by the facade of the housing market. Now that the housing bubble has burst, it's becoming obvious that the nation's economy has been in the dumps for several years.

Perhaps Bush is trying to cover that up by making it look like the issue of whether or not the nation is in a recession is an issue.
 

jpeyton

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We haven't even hit bottom yet. Home prices are projected to drop at least another 20% in the next 3 years.

That's a lot of wealth disappearing into thin air.
 

BoberFett

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What's the bigger failure? Not seeing the recession coming or bumping a nearly two year old thread about it?
 

nageov3t

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What's the bigger failure? Not seeing the recession coming or bumping a nearly two year old thread about it?

in fairness, at the time Bush said that, weren't we already "in" a recession? so technically, we weren't really headed for one... ;)
 

dahunan

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Recession designed to make the rich richer and the poor poorer

Poor lose more assets -- Rich buy them up for cheap and have more power

Bush didn't want to fix it