Milk. Blood. Whatever. Dubya cannot tell the difference between 9-11 and Iraq either. He is a celibate Republican so it is all good.
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Bush Apologists of America (BAA): pulling the wool over America's eyes since 1980
Milk. Blood. Whatever. Dubya cannot tell the difference between 9-11 and Iraq either. He is a celibate Republican so it is all good.
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Bush Apologists of America (BAA): pulling the wool over America's eyes since 1980
This coming from the person who runs around a public forum going BAAAAA BAAAAA BAAAAAAA.... maybe you sheep can cry some more for me, because apparently you don't know how to do anything more than that. Intelligent thought, that wasn't your idea.
Maybe you'll understand this reply better if I put it into your own language.
WAAAA WAAAA WAAAAA
Ldir crying assosciation of America: Crying over problems he has no clue how to solve since 1965.
Intelligent thought is wasted when you are so blind you can not see the difference between blood and milk. Intelligent thought is wasted when you are so deaf you can not hear the truth. You are the one crying about problems you are too dull to recognize. The sheep are the bleating Bushies who snap at every criticism of your hero. It is all you know how to do.
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Bush Apologists of America (BAA): pulling the wool over dirtboy's eyes and ears since 2003
Yes, you sheep-like Republicans, keep bleating about how the 9/11 commission is out to get everyone and slander only the republicans. Blah, blah, blah, put your tinfoil hats back on. Meanwhile, the rest of the country is interested in exactly what went wrong and why.
No surprise that you can't follow a simple analogy and that you'd have to twist it in desperation to support you little crying, finger pointing argument that you learned when you were a little child. I hope you stop crying long enough someday to see through your own eyes instead of blindly being lead around by what other people tell you to say and do.
BTW, if you weren't too busy crying, you'd know that I am not the one here crying about any problems.
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Liberal crying assosciation of America (WAA): Crying and calling people sheep since the day they were born, like Ldir, since they lack the raw intelligence to come up with a decent arguement that doesn't involve sobbing.
Bowfinger
Lifer
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I see you're busy attacking others. Where is your outrage about the Bush administration obstructing the 9/11 Commission by refusing to produce information? How do you justify their lack of cooperation? How can the Commission complete its work when it cannot get all of the facts? Isn't getting to the truth worth a little extra time?
Given that this Commission is chaired by a Republican, aren't your comments about politics a little disingenuous? Why are they afraid of fellow-Republican Kean getting the truth? Do you think the truth will lead to more political blame tomorrow than obstructing the investigation is today? And if it does, so what? Isn't the truth about the most heinous terroist attack against America more important than saving Bush from embarrassment? Isn't it more important that we learn how to better prevent future al Qaeda attacks than covering up for past mistakes?
It seems to me that Bush&Co are the ones dragging this out indefinitely. Why won't they cooperate so we can close this investigation and move on?
Well I didn't read it yet but I can assure you I will. First I've got to check in as to whether you quoted it right and get in touch with this punch drunk Rocky Fellow. I've set myself a deadline for 5pm tonight. I just hope I can do all that befor the time expires. Yup, I really do hope so. I want to know the truth.
Right, Rice won't testify in public or under oath. The truth, the whole truth and noting but the truth isn't in her bag. I want to lie, bit not under oath or where people can see me is her motto. They should invite the victims to the democratic convention.
we idenitfy more with the Texas Longhorn these days, rather than sheep.
and Moonie....the truth comes not from the reflection you won't see in a sheet of paper or the computer monitor, but rather from looking in the mirror of your mind. From many minds, many truths..the real question is which truth do you want to believe in.
Oh yes, look at me, attack, attack, attack. Perhaps you've noticed a trend amoung your leftist friends Bow, but virtually none of them can form a logical arguement. Instead they run around replying to threads saying the sky is falling or that Bush is a facist or even using the word "BAA." I frankly think it's funny that these people claim to know the "truth" and claim to be independant thinkers who don't follow the lead of others, but yet their only form of argueing is to run around insulting others. See, you have a skewed view of my responses to them. You see it as attacking, I see it as communicating in their own language. After all, how can you take someone serious who runs around calling other people sheep?? Of couse you don't say that they are attacking anyone, because they are on your own side. So I ask you, if you can't objectively look at someones actions and correctly interpret them, how can you claim to know what is right or wrong with anything else?
I ask you Bow, what information are you looking for? 9/11 didn't occur yesterday, but well over a year ago. Are you trying to tell me that there haven't been any investigations this entire time? If not, why are you not outraged? I imagine that investigations have been going on since day one. As time passes leads get old and information becomes harder and harder to get. Maybe we should go back and investigate more things in the name of terrorism so we can learn the "truth." But you really don't want that, now do you. You've already said that we shouldn't have gone into Iraq to find the truth and we shouldn't have the Patriot act to find the truth, but yet you want to find the truth with this. Why is that??
So again I ask, what is it you are trying to find? All I hear from you and your leftist friends is that we need to keep the invesigation going, but there is no reason why? To find the truth? How will we know when the truth is found? When will you stop? You accuse Bush of wasting money looking for WMD's because he didn't find them in the first few weeks, yet here you are over a year after 9/11 wanting to waste more money to find the truth. I understand, you are willing to waste time and money to investigate matters in which you hope to discover information that will hurt the reputation of those you don't like, just because you don't like them.
That is my problem with the left and people like you. You are not men of action. We have other pressing issues facing the world today. Why don't you want to solve them or pour resources into taking care of them? Simple, because you don't know how to fix the problems. Problem solving isn't your forte. Pointing fingers and blaming others is. Your plan is simple, if you spend enough time "investigating" 9/11 that maybe, for example, the situation in Iraq will move along enough so you can come back and be critical about it. Then you can cry and point fingers about how things were wrong, even though you've offered no insight on how to do it better. In fact, you've offered nothing other than your dislike for Bush and everything he does. So once you're done with 9/11 I will assume you'll be back seeking the truth for Iraq or whatever it may be that you feel needs crying over at the time.
I encourage people to solve problems, learn from their mistakes and the mistakes of others without getting bogged down with things. Life is already short enough and time is precious. You can live your life looking backwards, while I will choose to live it looking forwards.
So I say Bow, have your investigation and have fun with it. I hope you uncover all the dirty little dark secrets that you have already convinced yourself that you are going to find. Awefully hard to have an unbiased investigation when you're as biased as you are. And when you're done I hope you can come here like an armchair quarterback on Monday morning, and say how different you would have done things knowing all the things that you know now, even if that information wasn't available at the time when people that made their decisions based on the information at hand. Of course, if you didn't do that, you wouldn't be the good liberal that you are.
See what I mean? No original thoughts at all. He just rebleats others.
Spelling clues- association, argument, Liberal Crying Association of America (LCAA). Gud spaling ix impartunt wen youze dissing otherz intelijunz. Loser.
hahaha
I'm amused at how you think you're such a big man Ldir. Maybe you can run around BAAing at some more people and point out their faults. Of course that is all you're good at, other than crying...
Of couse you think calling someone a sheep is an original thought.
Bowfinger
Lifer
- Nov 17, 2002
- 15,776
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Wow. I think this one goes in the crock hall of fame. It is rare to see this much dissembling in a single post.
It would take me an hour to work through this steaming excrement literally sentence by sentence, systematically refuting each distortion, distraction, ignorant assertion, and outright lie. Suffice it to say you did not address my questions at all and you flatly lied about most -- probably all -- of the things you claim I've said and positions you claim I've taken. You continue to demonstrate a complete and utter unwillingness or inability to understand the grave responsibility of this Commission, how Bush's refusal to cooperate compromises this, and how it is extremely unlikely that the Republican chair of the Commission will turn this into a Monica-style fishing expedition against Bush. Instead, you continue to spin hollow partisan rhetoric and spout off non-stop red herrings to try to draw attention away from your idol's obstruction of truth.
That leaves me right where I started. Every truly patriotic American should support this investigation fully, without restrictions or reservations. To do anything less is de facto supporting the terrorists who staged this attack, helping suppress information we need to prevent such attacks in the future. The fact that you place partisan posturing above the truth about the most heinous terrorist attack in U.S. history says volumes about you and your loyalty to America.
Thank you for proving my point. Not only can you not tell me what it is you're looking for in this investigation, but in desperation to support your argument, (which there isn't one), you've resorted to saying I support terrorism.
Can you support this claim or are you making a McFabricowen? Show me how my words are "partisan rhetoric" and "non-stop red herrings" and even more, how Bush is my "idol." That's what I thought. You are so closed minded and so anti-Bush, that anyone who disagrees with you is automatically these things and more. When in fact, you don't know my party affiliation, and even if you did, you can't show that what I am saying is what they are saying, because I don't pay any attention to what any of the parties are saying.
Bravo mate!
Let's summerize Bow's position on terrorism:
Let's investigate things that happened over a year ago without any idea of what we are looking for. Let's call everyone who doesn't support this investigation a terrorist. Then, let's not support the war on terror that is currently going on, but we'll call those that do support the war facists. Once the war is over or died down, we'll investigate it and call the people who don't support that investigation terrorists. All the while we'll do nothing to support out troops or anything to help get the situation resolved there so our men and women can come home.
Good on you mate!
So now because I have a position that differs from Bow's I should be called a terrorist and tried for treason.
Wow, you guys sure are desperate to prove your position that you want to get rid of your opposition completely. No surprises here, when your arguments are weak and you can't defend yourself, the best solution is to call your opposition names and try to get rid of them.
Bowfinger
Lifer
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With all due respect, that is simply a stupid comment. (Note: according to etech, that is not an ad hominem.)
In the first place, it is quite common for major government investigations to take years. As I pointed out in my first post, the Ken Starr witch hunt took five years. (Sidebar: were you equally outraged about the prolonged Starr circus?)
Second, it has been over 28 months since September 11, 2001. While I suppose your "over a year ago" is technically accurate, it suggests you don't have a clue about the subject.
Speaking of which, third, the main reason this investigation overlaps Bush-lite's 2004 campaign is because of his stonewalling and obstruction. Bush stalled for a year, refusing to even appoint the Commission until the outcry from victims' families grew too intense. Since then, he and his minions have actively obstructed the investigation, refusing to cooperate and produce requested materials. I have no sympathy for their whining about inconvenient timing because it's Bush's own damn fault. Boo hoo hoo.
Finally, fourth, what possible justification do you have for asserting the Commission has "no idea what [ they ] are looking for"? It is a preposterous and ignorant assertion.
It's a neat tactic I learned from your boy in the White House. "If you're not with us, you support terrorism." Ring a bell? I know you'd prefer that only the right get to use this attack, but what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
More than that, there is a degree of truth in my comment. We cannot be as effective in preventing future attacks if Bush will not let us get to the truth behind 9/11. We need to understand what went wrong so we can fix it. By obstructing the investigation, Bush implicitly suggests he must be part of what went wrong, and, therefore, putting Bush back on the street is part of the fix. If that's not the case, why won't Bush cooperate with finding the truth? What is Bush hiding?
Oops. there's a little dishonesty. I enthusiastically support our war on terror, i.e., our actions in Afghanistan. In fact, I am on the record as suggesting we should have more forces on the ground in Afghanistan. One of the reasons I rail against Bush is he lost sight of the ball, shifting resources from the war on terror to further his nation-building boondoggle in Iraq.
Of course, I suspect you really meant Iraq when you said war on terror. If so, you are either misinformed or dishonest. Bush himself finally acknowleged there was no evidence of a substantive connection between Iraq and al Qaeda. This is after he lied about it for a year, however, so I understand why so many Americans are still confused about this.
Oh dear, more dishonesty. I have not said anyone is a fascist for supporting the invasion of Iraq. I said the ideology of the so-called "neo-conservatives" seems to resemble fascism more than anything related to true conservatism. I object to the term "neo-conservative" because it is a euphemism for something more insidious.
Seems reasonable. All but the most partisan acknowledege we made mistakes. We need to understand them and prevent them in the future.
War-mongers might be more appropriate, but I'll defer to the expertise of the Defamer in Chief.
More dishonesty. I disagree with their mission in Iraq, but I support them 1000%. I want to see every one of our brave men and women come home safely, as quickly as possible.
Like what? You keep making crap up. Show us all even one quote where I opposed resolving the situation in Iraq. (Hint: the fact you disagree with my ideas doesn't mean I don't want resolution. It means we have different opinions. This is allowed in the United States.)
Bowfinger
Lifer
- Nov 17, 2002
- 15,776
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More on the story. It looks like the request is official now. From the New York Times:
Sounds like it's time to contact our Congress-critters, let them know we want a full and uncompromised investigation into the most heinous terrorist attack in this nation's history.
Yes, let's run an investigation that will start out as another Bow anti-Bush attack and end with them really finding out that our intelligence network make a big SNAFU.
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