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Bush resends 20 court nominees
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CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Ah yes, and here we have two people not understanding the fact that it takes TWO to "unite". Let me ask a question for you pair of off-topic posters. What would it take for Bush be a "uniter" by your standards? Does he have to pander to you leftists to be one?
Pfftt - he wasn't elected twice to further the left's agenda - he was elected twice on his agenda. Just because the left has tried to stonewall him - doesn't mean he isn't a uniter. It could very well be that the left does not want, nor ever did, want to unite with him.
Now back to the OP please.🙂
CsG
Well, they did approve 200 of his nominees and blocked 20. So if it takes two to unite, the democrats moved 90%, and Bush won't even move 10%. So he is not a uniter by any standard.
Of course you believe that Republicans are always right and that 100% of their nominees should be approved?
And BTW, the Democrat senators were elected on their agendas which is blocking Bush's ideological judges from imposing their will on the whole country, large parts of which didn't even vote for Bush.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
:roll: No. I think nominees should get thier up/down vote when they make it out of commitee. The oh so unitable left decided to play hardball. They are now getting their due.
Edit for your edit:
Then they are free to vote against the nomination. Too bad they chose to act like spoiled children and block the entire vote - not allowing any part of the country have a say.
CsG
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Then they best start actually getting off their ass and yapping and yapping until they fall down. You know - a real filibuster - none of this pantywaist BS the left passes off as a filibuster these days.
BTW - blocking judges is not why it's there but you keep telling yourself it is if it helps.
CsG
Feinstein and Boxer have my full blessing to do what they need to do to block extreme rightwing ideologues from occupying federal judicial seats. Other senators can think for themselves. If they only block less than 10%, they must have a good reason for going to filibuster. If moderate democrats are willing to put their political capital on the line to block a judicial nominee, that person must be a real threat to American way of life.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Except the nominees aren't "extreme rightwing ideologues" 😛 That seems to be what you wall builders don't understand. Just because they aren't kook left like boxer or feinstein doesn't mean they are extreme right-wing.😛 Oh and your last sentence would be accurate if it ended like this: "...real threat to the liberal's strangle hold on our courts."
Well, like I said - the game is on. You guys have played your game for too long - the bill is now due. I can't wait to see the c-span coverage of your side's first actual filibuster. I wonder who the first drone to speak will be...
CsG
Bipartisanship involves compromise from both sides. Dems have done their share, passing over 200 Bush Judicial nominees, preventing votes on only 10. That's a much better track record than the Repub Senate gave Clinton in his second term, for example.
Not that it matters. Give Repubs 95% of what they want, but they still whine, accuse Dems of obstructionism. Apparently the most radical nominees are the most important, the rest apparently being filler, as there aren't that many qualified Uber-Right Jurists available... Which should be indicative of the entire Bush Agenda, and just how well it represents mainstream America.
Not that it matters. Give Repubs 95% of what they want, but they still whine, accuse Dems of obstructionism. Apparently the most radical nominees are the most important, the rest apparently being filler, as there aren't that many qualified Uber-Right Jurists available... Which should be indicative of the entire Bush Agenda, and just how well it represents mainstream America.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
No, you ignored my point as usual. How exactly does Bush become a "uniter" in a socialist's eyes? Come on now - answer the question. You people keep yapping and yapping about this "uniter" bit yet what are guidlines and marks he has to hit? Seems to me this is yet another moving goal post situation. Come on - out with it - what would it take? And if you think about trying to say he should adopt the left's agenda - then you can forget it. There is no reason for Bush to pander to you on the left - especially when it'll never be good enough(see Medi-care legislation or NCLB - both supposedly supported by the left).
Now do you want to address the topic Bowfinger or are you going to continue with your off-topic BS? Heck - supertool got on topic - why can't you?
CsG
Boxer or Feinstein alone can't start a filibuster. They must have support of moderate democrats. And if more than 90% go through, the 10 % they block are unacceptably biased or ideological. Liberals don't have a stranglehold on the courts. The republicans are the ones trying to stuff the courts with rightwing ideologues and pander to the religous right. They are a threat to American way of life as we know it.
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Wrong - the left has not done their "share".😛 Oh, and what makes you think that there was no compromise on some of Bush's nominations? Hmmm.... You really think he chose the most right wing of the lot? 😛 Pfftt - everything must look "extreme right wing" from the left's view. No wonder they can't win...
Wrong again - The Republican's did not filibuster judicial nominees. When they came to the floor - they got a vote. Now again, I look forward to seeing actual filibusters this time - should be a fun game to see play out...
CsG
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
Awww lookie - someone has their panties in a bunch over emoticons. :roll:
I hope the left tries to play their little games again too - then all bets are off. 🙂
CsG
What would Bush have to do to achieve bipartisanship on this issue? Easy. Withdraw the names of his rightwing ideologues, nominate folks with ideology along the lines of the other 95% of his nominees... Solid Republicans, every one.
And, of course, Repubs didn't have to resort to a filibuster to block Clinton's nominees- they had a slight majority, and never let those names out of committee...
Just raving Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! isn't much of an argument, CsG... You'll need to do better than that to convince anybody other than yourself....
And, of course, Repubs didn't have to resort to a filibuster to block Clinton's nominees- they had a slight majority, and never let those names out of committee...
Just raving Wrong! Wrong! Wrong! isn't much of an argument, CsG... You'll need to do better than that to convince anybody other than yourself....
CADsortaGUY
Lifer
And you making CLAIMS that his choices are extreme right wing ideologues isn't much of an argument. You'll need to do better than that to convince anyone except the obviously seething leftwingers...
CsG
Bowfinger
Lifer
Quintessential Cad. Name calling, diversions, self-righteous accusations of others being off-topic for repsonding with anything except what he wants to hear. YAWN. Here, have a Christmas
.How exactly is Bush a "uniter" in a neo-fascist's eyes? Come on now - answer the question. You people keep yapping blah blah blah ... As far as "pandering to the left" is concerned, the only reason Bush won't pander to the left is they won't bribe him. Bush will pander to anyone with deep-enough pockets. He's selling the country off to the highest bidders while his mindless sheep bleat their approval.
Appeal denied. I rest my case. "That's their vision of working 'together': do it my way."
Heh. CsG, you're definitely a piece of work. When the truth hurts, you simply attempt to deny it.
I suppose that these nominees aren't far rightwingers in your estimation... but that says a lot, all by itself. The basic definition of an extremist is somebody whose political opponents all lie in one direction on the spectrum... Who, among modern American politicians, is too far right to suit you, CsG? Anybody at all?
I suppose that these nominees aren't far rightwingers in your estimation... but that says a lot, all by itself. The basic definition of an extremist is somebody whose political opponents all lie in one direction on the spectrum... Who, among modern American politicians, is too far right to suit you, CsG? Anybody at all?
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