Bush Planned for War as Diplomacy Continued

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By William Hamilton
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, April 16, 2004; 12:20 PM


Beginning in late December, 2001, President Bush met repeatedly with Army Gen. Tommy R. Franks and his war cabinet to plan the U.S. attack on Iraq even as he and administration spokesmen insisted they were pursuing a diplomatic solution, according to a new book on the origins of the war.

The intensive war planning throughout 2002 created its own momentum, according to "Plan of Attack" by Bob Woodward, fueled in part by the CIA's conclusion Saddam Hussein could not be removed from power except through a war and CIA Director George J. Tenet's assurance to the president that it was a "slam dunk" case that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction.

In three and a half hours of interviews with Woodward, an assistant managing editor at The Washington Post, Bush defended the secret planning and said war was his "absolute last option." But "Plan of Attack" describes how the growing commitments required of the military, the CIA and U.S. allies as the planning intensified would have been difficult, if not impossible, to reverse.

Adding to the momentum, Woodward writes, was the pressure from advocates of war inside the administration led by Vice President Cheney, who Woodward describes as a "powerful, steamrolling force" who had developed what some of his colleagues felt was a "fever" about removing Hussein by force.

By early January, 2003, Bush had made up his mind to take military action against Iraq, according to the book. But Bush was so concerned that the government of his closest ally, British Prime Minister Tony Blair, might fall because of his support for Bush that he delayed the war's start until March 19 here--March 20 in Iraq--because Blair asked him to seek a second resolution from the United Nations. Bush later gave Blair the option of withholding British troops from combat, which Blair rejected.

Woodward describes a relationship between Cheney and Secretary of State Colin L. Powell -- never close despite years of working together -- that became so strained that Cheney and Powell are barely on speaking terms. Cheney engaged in a bitter and eventually winning struggle over Iraq with Powell, an opponent of war who believed Cheney was obsessed with trying to establish a connection between Iraq and the al Qaeda terrorist network and treated ambiguous intelligence as fact.

Powell felt Cheney and his allies -- his chief aide, Lewis "Scooter" Libby, deputy defense secretary Paul Wolfowitz and undersecretary of defense for policy Douglas Feith and what Powell called Feith's "Gestapo" office -- had established what amounted to a separate government. The vice president, for his part, believed Powell was mainly concerned with his own popularity and told friends at a private dinner he hosted a year ago to celebrate the outcome of the war that Powell was a problem and "always had major reservations about what we were trying to do."

Before the war with Iraq, Powell bluntly told Bush that if he sent U.S. troops there "you're going to be owning this place." Powell and his deputy and closest friend, Richard L. Armitage, used to refer to what they called "the Pottery Barn rule" on Iraq -- "you break it, you own it," according to Woodward.

But, when asked personally by the president, Powell agreed to present the U.S. case against Hussein at the United Nations in February, 2003 -- a presentation described by White House communications director Dan Bartlett as "the Powell buy-in." Bush wanted someone with Powell's credibility to present the evidence that Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction -- a case the president had initially found less than convincing when presented to him by CIA deputy director John McLaughlin at a White House meeting on December 21, 2002.

McLaughlin's version used communications intercepts, satellite photos, diagrams and other intelligence. "Nice try," Bush said when he was finished, according to the book. "I don't think this quite -- it's not something that Joe Public would understand or would gain a lot of confidence from."

He then turned to Tenet, McLaughlin's boss and said, "I've been told all this intelligence about having WMD and this is the best we've got?"

"It's a slam dunk case," Tenet replied, throwing his arms in the air. Bush pressed him again. "George, how confident are you."

"Don't worry, it's a slam dunk case," Tenet repeated.

Tenet later told associates he realized he should have said the evidence on weapons was not ironclad, according to Woodward. After the CIA director made a rare public speech in February defending the CIA's handling of intelligence about Iraq, Bush called him to say he had done "a great job." In his previous book, "Bush at War," Woodward described the administration's response to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 -- its decision to attack the Taliban government in Afghanistan and its increasing focus on Iraq. His new book is a narrative history of how Bush and his administration launched the war on Iraq. It is based on interviews with more than 75 people involved in policy formation, including Bush and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld. This week the president had to acknowledge that the violent uprising against U.S. troops in Iraq has resulted in "a tough, tough, series of weeks for the American people." But he insisted that his course of action in Iraq has been the correct one in language that echoed what he told Woodward more than four months ago.

In two separate interviews with Woodward in December, Bush minimized the failure to find the weapons, expressed no doubts about his decision to invade Iraq, and enunciated an activist role for the United States based on it being "the beacon for freedom in the world."

"I believe we have a duty to free people," Bush told Woodward. " I would hope we wouldn't have to do it militarily, but we have a duty."

The president described praying as he walked outside the Oval Office after giving the order to begin combat operations against Iraq on March, 19, 2003, and the powerful role his religious belief played throughout that time.

"Going into this period, I was praying for strength to do the Lord's will. . . . I'm surely not going to justify war based upon God. Understand that. Nevertheless, in my case I pray that I be as good a messenger of His will as possible. And then, of course, I pray for personal strength and for forgiveness."

The president told Woodward that "I am prepared to risk my presidency to do what I think is right. I was going to act. And if it could cost the presidency, I fully realized that. But I felt so strongly that it was the right thing to do that I was prepared to do so."

Asked by Woodward how history would judge the war, Bush replied: "History. We don't know. We'll all be dead." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17347-2004Apr16.html
 

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To not plan for the worst when there is a possibility for war is foolhardy in the extreme. Iraq had been in the crosshair for 13 years when we "rushed" off to war. Iraq was non-compliant to their peace treaty with the United States (that alone is an act of war on their part), openly deceitful, and linked to the support of terrorists. 12 years of diplomacy had yeilded nothing. A fact that everyone fails to remember.

Former Pres. Clinton had already enacted the policy of regime change in Iraq through whatever means necessary, so this invasion was a logical extension, given the times and Saddams rogue activities. Once the Americans were in Afghanistan, the turmoil in the region would have to be calmed. It is virtually certain that Saddam would have supported insurgents in Afghanistan, and the situation would have been similar to what we now have in Iraq. This would have triggered an invasion, though not as well thought out as the way it was done. Reaction is ALWAYS less desireable than action where war is concerned.

I see the Presidents choice to be one that I too would have made. I might have handled the press differently, but hindsight is alway 20/20...isn't it?
 

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Originally posted by: maluckey
To not plan for the worst when there is a possibility for war is foolhardy in the extreme. Iraq had been in the crosshair for 13 years when we "rushed" off to war. Iraq was non-compliant to their peace treaty with the United States (that alone is an act of war on their part), openly deceitful, and linked to the support of terrorists. 12 years of diplomacy had yeilded nothing. A fact that everyone fails to remember.

Former Pres. Clinton had already enacted the policy of regime change in Iraq through whatever means necessary, so this invasion was a logical extension, given the times and Saddams rogue activities. Once the Americans were in Afghanistan, the turmoil in the region would have to be calmed. It is virtually certain that Saddam would have supported insurgents in Afghanistan, and the situation would have been similar to what we now have in Iraq. This would have triggered an invasion, though not as well thought out as the way it was done. Reaction is ALWAYS less desireable than action where war is concerned.

I see the Presidents choice to be one that I too would have made. I might have handled the press differently
By telling the truth?

 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Gaard
By telling the truth?

I think he means by not telling lies of omission.

so the president doesn't tell you out-right everything he's doing so he's a liar...

you're kidding me, right?


Hey, it's not my theory. Go ask maluckey. :)
 

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Originally posted by: maluckey
To not plan for the worst when there is a possibility for war is foolhardy in the extreme. Iraq had been in the crosshair for 13 years when we "rushed" off to war. Iraq was non-compliant to their peace treaty with the United States (that alone is an act of war on their part), openly deceitful, and linked to the support of terrorists. 12 years of diplomacy had yeilded nothing. A fact that everyone fails to remember.

Former Pres. Clinton had already enacted the policy of regime change in Iraq through whatever means necessary, so this invasion was a logical extension, given the times and Saddams rogue activities. Once the Americans were in Afghanistan, the turmoil in the region would have to be calmed. It is virtually certain that Saddam would have supported insurgents in Afghanistan, and the situation would have been similar to what we now have in Iraq.
Is there a "slam dunk" case for that too? Why, just because US supported insurgents in Afghanistan, Iraq was going to do so too? ;)

 
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Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Gaard
By telling the truth?

I think he means by not telling lies of omission.

so the president doesn't tell you out-right everything he's doing so he's a liar...

you're kidding me, right?


Hey, it's not my theory. Go ask maluckey. :)
good job in slithering out of being nailed.

dealing with you is like trying to nail jello to the wall.
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Gaard
Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Originally posted by: Gaard
By telling the truth?

I think he means by not telling lies of omission.

so the president doesn't tell you out-right everything he's doing so he's a liar...

you're kidding me, right?


Hey, it's not my theory. Go ask maluckey. :)
good job in slithering out of being nailed.

dealing with you is like trying to nail jello to the wall.



Obviously you haven't read this thread. Go deal with maluckey.


*Gaard slithers away
 

maluckey

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Gaard,

Since you are begging, no, screaming for an answer :D as to how I might have dealt differently with the press....

I wouldn't have told them anything before thae facts were out. They have no need to know. They are not in the chain of command, nor is the approval of the press necessary or proper to fight a war. We should have learned from past conflicts, that politicians and press, do not good warriors make, so should be left out of the loop as much as possible.

Embedding them was a stroke of genius. That way you don't have to tell them anything at all. The problem is now they are no longer embedded, they speculate, rather than report. Speculation by a liberal media type, is never good for any war.
 

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Originally posted by: maluckey
Gaard,



Since you are begging, no, screaming for an answer :D as to how I might have dealt differently with the press....

You judge Gaard wrong,I think He just not interested in argueing with the RZ...touche..

 

Gaard

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Gaard,

Since you are begging, no, screaming for an answer as to how I might have dealt differently with the press....

Hmmm, I must have a short memory. I don't remembert ever asking you this.

Oh yeah, what's an RZ?