Bush on the Constitution:

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palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Provide a link debunking it or quit whining, still waiting...

Your word does not carry much weight being a anon internet poster.

BTW this is not my thread so complain to the OP. ;)
the entire point is that there is no need to "debunk" a story in which the link itself does that for you!

And I would expect my word as an "anon internet poster" to be the equivilent of the OP's link itself.

hello? hello? is this thing on?...



So why should anyone here believe a word you say? You think you are a "special" case?

Provide a debunk backing up your OPINION on the matter or your posting what you think is false is immaterial.
Of course "what you think is false" is immaterial! The same is true for the link. Are you saying that you give the linked story more credence than my opinion? hint: they're both baseless!

you really dont get it, do you? need me to draw pictures?
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Provide a link debunking it or quit whining, still waiting...

Your word does not carry much weight being a anon internet poster.

BTW this is not my thread so complain to the OP. ;)
the entire point is that there is no need to "debunk" a story in which the link itself does that for you!

And I would expect my word as an "anon internet poster" to be the equivilent of the OP's link itself.

hello? hello? is this thing on?...



So why should anyone here believe a word you say? You think you are a "special" case?

Provide a debunk backing up your OPINION on the matter or your posting what you think is false is immaterial.

uhg, you really dont get it, do you? need pictures?



No pic is nessasary, a simple link will suffice backing up your denial, or see the old adage will apply of what opinions are like, and how many people have them.

Your a timewaster, or your ego has overtaken you to think your opinion in the matter holds any weight.

Regardless you have derailed a thread with a baseless claim with your baseless claims, good job. :roll:
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
No pic is nessasary, a simple link will suffice backing up your denial, or see the old adage will apply of what opinions are like, and how many people have them.

what are you looking for? a link to some urban myth site that debunks this work of fiction specifically?

Are you saying that you give the linked story more credence than my opinion?

hint: they're both baseless!

that's the point.
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Regardless you have derailed a thread with a baseless claim with your baseless claims, good job. :roll:

woot! victory! we finally agree on something, and you just might finally get it!... or not...
 

piasabird

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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Since the Constitution of the United States can be changed at any time by a judges opinion or a Supreme Court Decision, it is just a piece of paper. That is what liberals have been saying for years. Women's sufferage was added as an amendment. Slaves were considered property and had to be returned to their owners. These things were changed along with rights for workers and employers. So the Constitution is a living document from that point of view. We have changed it in the past, and it will be changed in the future.

It is far better than when the FCC or some other federal office or deparment makes up some rule and then they try to enforce it like that is a law, when in fact it does not have the force of Law like the US Constitutions does. How can rules made by the IRS be laws if no one ever voted on them. The IRS has no legal right to make laws.
 

Hurricane Andrew

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Nov 28, 2004
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Originally posted by: piasabird
Since the Constitution of the United States can be changed at any time by a judges opinion or a Supreme Court Decision, it is just a piece of paper. That is what liberals have been saying for years. Women's sufferage was added as an amendment. Slaves were considered property and had to be returned to their owners. These things were changed along with rights for workers and employers. So the Constitution is a living document from that point of view. We have changed it in the past, and it will be changed in the future.

It is far better than when the FCC or some other federal office or deparment makes up some rule and then they try to enforce it like that is a law, when in fact it does not have the force of Law like the US Constitutions does. How can rules made by the IRS be laws if no one ever voted on them. The IRS has no legal right to make laws.

Your statement contradicts itself. What good is passing a law if a judge can divine any meaning that he wants from it depending on his mood, his personal views, events of the day, etc.? In such a case, where laws and even the Constitution itself can be changed by 5 men or women in black robes, what happens to the rule of law? Why pass a law if it won't be enforced? Heck, why not just go ahead and break the laws already on the books, after all there's probably at least one judge out there that would agree with the offender, it's just a matter of finding him.

That, in a nutshell, is the trouble with "interpreting" the law and hte Constitution. That is why Textualists such as Scalia are so adament that the law means what it says and nothing more or less. If the people do not like the law as it is written, then it is up to the people, through the legislature, to change the law. It is not up to a handful of judges to do it for them. The job of the judiciary is to ensure that the laws that are written are upheld and applied fairly and impartially to all citizens, regardless of sex, race, color, class, etc.
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
Feb 4, 2002
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It sure sopunds like something GWB would say. We already know that he would prefer a dictatorship as long as he's the dictator.
 

daniel49

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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Provide a link debunking it or quit whining, still waiting...

Your word does not carry much weight being a anon internet poster.

BTW this is not my thread so complain to the OP. ;)
the entire point is that there is no need to "debunk" a story in which the link itself does that for you!

And I would expect my word as an "anon internet poster" to be the equivilent of the OP's link itself.

hello? hello? is this thing on?...



are you speaking of the microphone or steeplerots head:)