bush on 911: 'i couldnt handle the truth'

zillafurby

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Dub prepares to tell 911 panel that no one told him the terrorists were going to fly planes into the Twin Towers, hence the attack wasn't stopped

Is Dub joking at the victim's expence?

The idea is you put into action an organisation, in advance, based on your analysis of the problem and expert briefing, not ignore the threat and then when what info there is doesnt get identified and used, complain no one told him what was going to take place.

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By HOPE YEN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) said Monday he will tell the commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks that his administration lacked the information needed to prevent the terrorists from striking.


AP Photo
Slideshow: September 11

Bush Says He Lacked Info on Sept. 11
(AP Video)



The federal panel reviewing the attacks plans to meet soon with Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) in a joint private session to determine whether anything could have been done to stop the attacks.


A date for the meeting has been set but neither the commission nor the White House has disclosed it. Bush said he looks forward to "sharing information with them."


"Let me just be very clear about this," he said. "Had we had the information that was necessary to stop an attack, I'd have stopped the attack. ... If we'd have known that the enemy was going to fly airplanes into our buildings, we would have done everything in our power to stop it."


After the attacks, "this country immediately went on war footing and we went to war against al-Qaida. And we're going to keep after them until they are brought to justice and America is secure," Bush told reporters while on a trip to North Carolina.


Bush also said National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) "knows exactly what took place and will lay out the facts" when she testifies Thursday before the 10-member bipartisan panel. "I'm looking forward to people hearing her," he said.


Rice's testimony was assured only after Bush changed course last week under pressure and decided to allow her to appear publicly and under oath. She met privately with the commission in February.


The Bush administration had been uneasy that allowing a top aide to testify could set a precedent of summoning top aides before a congressional panel to provide sworn testimony. Such a move would inhibit the willingness of aides to provide the president with candid advice.


Commission spokesman Al Felzenberg said Monday the decision to let Rice testify might have been influenced by a 1945 photo the panel sent to the White House showing a top presidential aide appearing before a congressional panel to discuss policy advice.


The Nov. 22, 1945, New York Times photograph shows Adm. William D. Leahy, chief of staff to Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman, appearing before the special congressional panel investigating the Pearl Harbor attacks.


Felzenberg said the commission's executive director, Philip Zelikow, faxed the photo the day before the White House reversed its position, showing the administration there was historical support for allowing a top presidential aide to testify under oath before a congressional panel.


"It deals with the historical precedent which the White House and we were concerned about," Felzenberg said. "You won't find a clearer case."


Meanwhile, lawyers for the commission on Monday were checking thousands of classified counterterrorism documents from the Clinton administration to determine if Bush's aides had improperly withheld them.


The Bush administration granted the commission access to the documents Friday after Bruce Lindsey, who was legal adviser to President Clinton (news - web sites), said officials didn't turn over all of Clinton's records to the panel.


The commission expects to know by Tuesday whether additional documents should be released, or if the material is, as Bush aides have said, is largely duplicative or non-responsive to the commission's requests, Felzenberg said.
 

wkabel23

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The idea is you put into action an organisation, in advance, based on your analysis of the problem and expert briefing, not ignore the threat and then when what info there is doesnt get identified and used, complain no one told him what was going to take place.

But putting an organization into action would take SO much work...Rummy's missile defense plan was a FAR better idea anyways
rolleye.gif
 

zillafurby

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Originally posted by: wkabel23
The idea is you put into action an organisation, in advance, based on your analysis of the problem and expert briefing, not ignore the threat and then when what info there is doesnt get identified and used, complain no one told him what was going to take place.

But putting an organization into action would take SO much work...Rummy's missile defense plan was a FAR better idea anyways
rolleye.gif

yeah, bush should have said, 'heck they have bombed us a few times, clark, what are you going to do about it? ... well get on with it!'

situation resolved with an assasination of bin laden and omar, and a cover operation against the leadership of alqaida in afghanistan.

unfortunately it seems he was busy with some pretzels during the breifings and didnt understand the finer points about a global legitimacy for islamic terrorist action being created by america's foreign policy in the middle east.
 

chess9

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We needed Reagan's Starwars Defense Initiative. That would have stopped AQ and a comet or two.

Bwuahahahahaha!!

-Robert
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: chess9
We needed Reagan's Starwars Defense Initiative. That would have stopped AQ and a comet or two.

Bwuahahahahaha!!

-Robert

Well, if Clarke hadn't derailed Rice's plans, we'd have one by now!!
 

tallest1

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EDIT: whoops, wrong thread. To everyone that saw my essay, that was meant for another thread
 

ElFenix

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i just searched that article for the words "handle" and "truth"... apparently your "quote" wasn't actually a quote.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: tallest1
EDIT: whoops, wrong thread. To everyone that saw my essay, that was meant for another thread

it was pretty big too. hope you've pasted it to the right place
 

steveeast112

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I think Bush is doing it. He's already inflamed victim's family members. Aah... don't you just love fighting ads?
 

Ozoned

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Originally posted by: zillafurby
Dub prepares to tell 911 panel that no one told him the terrorists were going to fly planes into the Twin Towers, hence the attack wasn't stopped

Is Dub joking at the victim's expence?

The idea is you put into action an organisation, in advance, based on your analysis of the problem and expert briefing, not ignore the threat and then when what info there is doesnt get identified and used, complain no one told him what was going to take place.

text

By HOPE YEN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) said Monday he will tell the commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks that his administration lacked the information needed to prevent the terrorists from striking.


AP Photo
Slideshow: September 11

Bush Says He Lacked Info on Sept. 11
(AP Video)



The federal panel reviewing the attacks plans to meet soon with Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) in a joint private session to determine whether anything could have been done to stop the attacks.


A date for the meeting has been set but neither the commission nor the White House has disclosed it. Bush said he looks forward to "sharing information with them."


"Let me just be very clear about this," he said. "Had we had the information that was necessary to stop an attack, I'd have stopped the attack. ... If we'd have known that the enemy was going to fly airplanes into our buildings, we would have done everything in our power to stop it."


After the attacks, "this country immediately went on war footing and we went to war against al-Qaida. And we're going to keep after them until they are brought to justice and America is secure," Bush told reporters while on a trip to North Carolina.


Bush also said National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) "knows exactly what took place and will lay out the facts" when she testifies Thursday before the 10-member bipartisan panel. "I'm looking forward to people hearing her," he said.


Rice's testimony was assured only after Bush changed course last week under pressure and decided to allow her to appear publicly and under oath. She met privately with the commission in February.


The Bush administration had been uneasy that allowing a top aide to testify could set a precedent of summoning top aides before a congressional panel to provide sworn testimony. Such a move would inhibit the willingness of aides to provide the president with candid advice.


Commission spokesman Al Felzenberg said Monday the decision to let Rice testify might have been influenced by a 1945 photo the panel sent to the White House showing a top presidential aide appearing before a congressional panel to discuss policy advice.


The Nov. 22, 1945, New York Times photograph shows Adm. William D. Leahy, chief of staff to Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman, appearing before the special congressional panel investigating the Pearl Harbor attacks.


Felzenberg said the commission's executive director, Philip Zelikow, faxed the photo the day before the White House reversed its position, showing the administration there was historical support for allowing a top presidential aide to testify under oath before a congressional panel.


"It deals with the historical precedent which the White House and we were concerned about," Felzenberg said. "You won't find a clearer case."


Meanwhile, lawyers for the commission on Monday were checking thousands of classified counterterrorism documents from the Clinton administration to determine if Bush's aides had improperly withheld them.


The Bush administration granted the commission access to the documents Friday after Bruce Lindsey, who was legal adviser to President Clinton (news - web sites), said officials didn't turn over all of Clinton's records to the panel.


The commission expects to know by Tuesday whether additional documents should be released, or if the material is, as Bush aides have said, is largely duplicative or non-responsive to the commission's requests, Felzenberg said.


So, you are saying that some-one told him the terrorists were going to fly planes into the Twin Towers and he did
nothing to stop it....

Bush may not be brightest president we have had ,,but why would he do this??
 

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: tallest1
EDIT: whoops, wrong thread. To everyone that saw my essay, that was meant for another thread

it was pretty big too. hope you've pasted it to the right place

lol
I hate when that happens.

 

heartsurgeon

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'i couldnt handle the truth'
Apparently just another liberal LIAR. Please prove me wrong by posting an appropriate link to this quote....

The idea is you put into action an organisation, in advance, based on your analysis of the problem and expert briefing
Like what Liarboy
the plan recommended by Richard Clarke on Jan. 25th, 2001?? Clinton's "expert" on Al Qaeda and counter terrorism?

well, Mssr. Clarke has already agreed with the statement that there was not the remotest that adopting ALL of his recommendations would have prevented 9/11.
 

wkabel23

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: chess9
We needed Reagan's Starwars Defense Initiative. That would have stopped AQ and a comet or two.

Bwuahahahahaha!!

-Robert

Well, if Clarke hadn't derailed Rice's plans, we'd have one by now!!

I thought the missile defense system was Rummy's pet project? Maybe I'm wrong, doesn't really matter either way though ;)
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: wkabel23

I thought the missile defense system was Rummy's pet project? Maybe I'm wrong, doesn't really matter either way though ;)

the current missle defense system has been around quite a long time. i forget if the office was first opened by HW or by clinton. either way, it was there when W got there.
 

zillafurby

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Originally posted by: Ozoned
Originally posted by: zillafurby
Dub prepares to tell 911 panel that no one told him the terrorists were going to fly planes into the Twin Towers, hence the attack wasn't stopped

Is Dub joking at the victim's expence?

The idea is you put into action an organisation, in advance, based on your analysis of the problem and expert briefing, not ignore the threat and then when what info there is doesnt get identified and used, complain no one told him what was going to take place.

text

By HOPE YEN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) said Monday he will tell the commission investigating the Sept. 11 attacks that his administration lacked the information needed to prevent the terrorists from striking.


AP Photo
Slideshow: September 11

Bush Says He Lacked Info on Sept. 11
(AP Video)



The federal panel reviewing the attacks plans to meet soon with Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney (news - web sites) in a joint private session to determine whether anything could have been done to stop the attacks.


A date for the meeting has been set but neither the commission nor the White House has disclosed it. Bush said he looks forward to "sharing information with them."


"Let me just be very clear about this," he said. "Had we had the information that was necessary to stop an attack, I'd have stopped the attack. ... If we'd have known that the enemy was going to fly airplanes into our buildings, we would have done everything in our power to stop it."


After the attacks, "this country immediately went on war footing and we went to war against al-Qaida. And we're going to keep after them until they are brought to justice and America is secure," Bush told reporters while on a trip to North Carolina.


Bush also said National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice (news - web sites) "knows exactly what took place and will lay out the facts" when she testifies Thursday before the 10-member bipartisan panel. "I'm looking forward to people hearing her," he said.


Rice's testimony was assured only after Bush changed course last week under pressure and decided to allow her to appear publicly and under oath. She met privately with the commission in February.


The Bush administration had been uneasy that allowing a top aide to testify could set a precedent of summoning top aides before a congressional panel to provide sworn testimony. Such a move would inhibit the willingness of aides to provide the president with candid advice.


Commission spokesman Al Felzenberg said Monday the decision to let Rice testify might have been influenced by a 1945 photo the panel sent to the White House showing a top presidential aide appearing before a congressional panel to discuss policy advice.


The Nov. 22, 1945, New York Times photograph shows Adm. William D. Leahy, chief of staff to Presidents Franklin Roosevelt and Harry Truman, appearing before the special congressional panel investigating the Pearl Harbor attacks.


Felzenberg said the commission's executive director, Philip Zelikow, faxed the photo the day before the White House reversed its position, showing the administration there was historical support for allowing a top presidential aide to testify under oath before a congressional panel.


"It deals with the historical precedent which the White House and we were concerned about," Felzenberg said. "You won't find a clearer case."


Meanwhile, lawyers for the commission on Monday were checking thousands of classified counterterrorism documents from the Clinton administration to determine if Bush's aides had improperly withheld them.


The Bush administration granted the commission access to the documents Friday after Bruce Lindsey, who was legal adviser to President Clinton (news - web sites), said officials didn't turn over all of Clinton's records to the panel.


The commission expects to know by Tuesday whether additional documents should be released, or if the material is, as Bush aides have said, is largely duplicative or non-responsive to the commission's requests, Felzenberg said.


So, you are saying that some-one told him the terrorists were going to fly planes into the Twin Towers and he did
nothing to stop it....

Bush may not be brightest president we have had ,,but why would he do this??

erm, the whole point is you task people with addressing a problem as imporant as this before 911 happens, bush was briefed and did nothing. therefore there was no evidence when there would have been had he acted correctly. therefore he couldnt handle clarke's briefing.
 

zillafurby

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
'i couldnt handle the truth'
Apparently just another liberal LIAR. Please prove me wrong by posting an appropriate link to this quote....

The idea is you put into action an organisation, in advance, based on your analysis of the problem and expert briefing
Like what Liarboy
the plan recommended by Richard Clarke on Jan. 25th, 2001?? Clinton's "expert" on Al Qaeda and counter terrorism?

well, Mssr. Clarke has already agreed with the statement that there was not the remotest that adopting ALL of his recommendations would have prevented 9/11.

its a paraphrase.
 

zillafurby

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Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
'i couldnt handle the truth'
Apparently just another liberal LIAR. Please prove me wrong by posting an appropriate link to this quote....

The idea is you put into action an organisation, in advance, based on your analysis of the problem and expert briefing
Like what Liarboy
the plan recommended by Richard Clarke on Jan. 25th, 2001?? Clinton's "expert" on Al Qaeda and counter terrorism?

well, Mssr. Clarke has already agreed with the statement that there was not the remotest that adopting ALL of his recommendations would have prevented 9/11.

well punk, how many truck bombs need to go off before a neocon gets tetchy enough to act?