Bush 'Not Concerned' About Bin Laden in '02

conjur

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WASHINGTON ? Sen. John F. Kerry (news, bio, voting record) caught President Bush (news - web sites) off guard during their final debate Wednesday night, asserting that the president once said he was "not concerned" about hunting down Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden (news - web sites).

In one of the testiest moments of the evening, Bush protested, "I don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. That's kind of one of those exaggerations."

But during a news conference at the White House on March 13, 2002, Bush said something close to what Kerry quoted. "I truly am not that concerned about him," the president said, according to the official White House transcript.

The exchange between Bush and Kerry came during rebuttals to the first question of the debate, when moderator Bob Schieffer of CBS News asked Kerry whether the United States would regain the sense of security it had before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

"Six months after he said Osama bin Laden must be caught dead or alive, this president was asked, 'Where's Osama bin Laden?' " Kerry said. "He said, 'I don't know. I don't really think about him very much. I'm not that concerned.' We need a president who stays deadly focused on the real war on terror."

Bush's original comment came while U.S. forces in Afghanistan (news - web sites) were searching for the Al Qaeda leader, who had eluded joint American-Afghan military operations designed to find him.

"We haven't heard much from him. And I wouldn't necessarily say he's at the center of any command structure. And, again, I don't know where he is," Bush said during the 2002 news conference. "I'll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him. I know he is on the run.

"I was concerned about him when he had taken over a country," Bush continued. "I was concerned about the fact that he was basically running Afghanistan and calling the shots for the Taliban. But once we set out the policy and started executing the plan, he became ? we shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his Al Qaeda killers anymore."


W = Wrong


Al Qaeda is still active and still engaging in and still planning attacks.
 

Darkhawk28

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So basically, it's been proven he was wrong about Al Qaeda, wrong about Iraq, wrong about the economy, wrong about stem cell research, etc....

The second one should make him impeachable.... alright, I'll say it, he lied his ass off and took the intelligence he wanted to hear.
 

kage69

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You can imagine how I howled laughing when Bush denied this in the debate, as the quote is in my sig. How sad is that - after 9/11 we get the Dub relishing in getting the chance to sound like a famed Texas Ranger (we want OBL, dead or alive. He will be brought to justice) and a year later he's practically yawning at the mention of the man.


Even if there wasn't a mountain of other reasons why this idiot doesn't deserve to be president, this fact alone is more than enough to get me to vote against him. I am ashamed of many of countrymen and leaders for forgetting 9/11 in this fashion. :(
 

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: conjur
W = Wrong


Al Qaeda is still active and still engaging in and still planning attacks.
And capturing bin Laden won't change that one bit.

But didn't you know... Al Qaeda has been 75% destroyed....

Ummmm.... no. AQ is more powerful than ever, thanks to the Bush Administration foreign policy.
 

kage69

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And capturing bin Laden won't change that one bit.


What happened to bringing the most wanted man alive to justice? Knowing Bush's record as Governor of Texas in regards to criminals and punishment, this disgusts me, as does this attitude that OBL no longer matters.
 

arsbanned

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Yeah, Bush lied to the American people _AGAIN_ the other night during his final trouncing by Kerry. It's probably habit for him. Lie lie lie.
 
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Originally posted by: kage69
And capturing bin Laden won't change that one bit.


What happened to bringing the most wanted man alive to justice? Knowing Bush's record as Governor of Texas in regards to criminals and punishment, this disgusts me, as does this attitude that OBL no longer matters.
Read what Bush said. He never said the OBL no longer matters. He said that OBL is on the run and his power has effectively been marginalized. Bush is not concerned about bin Laden because he is on the run and really can't do anything.

 

Infohawk

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I for one don't think OBL is as important as most appear to think. Didn't that story come out a while back that said he didn't really fund that much of it? He didn't plan it, he didn't fund it, so he's not that important. He should be brought to justice but the obsession with him seems unwarranted. (Of course the Saddam obsession is ten times more absurd and tragic.)
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: kage69
And capturing bin Laden won't change that one bit.


What happened to bringing the most wanted man alive to justice? Knowing Bush's record as Governor of Texas in regards to criminals and punishment, this disgusts me, as does this attitude that OBL no longer matters.
Read what Bush said. He never said the OBL no longer matters. He said that OBL is on the run and his power has effectively been marginalized. Bush is not concerned about bin Laden because he is on the run and really can't do anything.

How dare you contradict what the President says? Oh wait...

"Gosh, I just don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. It's kind of one of those exaggerations. "

 
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Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: kage69
And capturing bin Laden won't change that one bit.


What happened to bringing the most wanted man alive to justice? Knowing Bush's record as Governor of Texas in regards to criminals and punishment, this disgusts me, as does this attitude that OBL no longer matters.
Read what Bush said. He never said the OBL no longer matters. He said that OBL is on the run and his power has effectively been marginalized. Bush is not concerned about bin Laden because he is on the run and really can't do anything.

How dare you contradict what the President says? Oh wait...

"Gosh, I just don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. It's kind of one of those exaggerations. "
As long as you want to turn a blind eye to what Bush actually said, and remove context, which seems to be a standard ploy for the RBH crowd, go ahead and feel that way.

It would be just as easy to take some Kerry quotes out of context and twist them around? Would you like to see me do it?

 

conjur

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: conjur
W = Wrong


Al Qaeda is still active and still engaging in and still planning attacks.
And capturing bin Laden won't change that one bit.
Well, by all means. Let's let bin Laden stay on the run. Let's just forget that he masterminded the plan that killed ~3,000 people and destroyed the World Trade Center buildings and caused severe damage to the Pentagon.

Let's forget that bin Laden is the most wanted man in the world.

Let's forget he's wanted for orchestrating other terrorist attacks including one on U.S. soil in 1993 and American embassies in Africa in 1998.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
I think he knew what we all know...the man is DEAD

"prove me wrong"
Videos of bin Laden since our forces were in Afghanistan.


Prove he's dead.
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
I think he knew what we all know...the man is DEAD

"prove me wrong"
Videos of bin Laden since our forces were in Afghanistan.


Prove he's dead.

There been no new video since December 2001...
 

kage69

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As long as you want to turn a blind eye to what Bush actually said, and remove context, which seems to be a standard ploy for the RBH crowd, go ahead and feel that way.


Seems to me you're the one turning a blind eye to what Bush actually said.

I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority So he doesn't care, he doesn't feel it's important, and it's not his priority. Care to try and dance around this anymore? You're just another YABA it seems. :frown:
 
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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: conjur
W = Wrong


Al Qaeda is still active and still engaging in and still planning attacks.
And capturing bin Laden won't change that one bit.
Well, by all means. Let's let bin Laden stay on the run. Let's just forget that he masterminded the plan that killed ~3,000 people and destroyed the World Trade Center buildings and caused severe damage to the Pentagon.

Let's forget that bin Laden is the most wanted man in the world.

Let's forget he's wanted for orchestrating other terrorist attacks including one on U.S. soil in 1993 and American embassies in Africa in 1998.
Nobody is forgetting.

I just find the whole "We haven't captured bin Laden yet!" a hollow chant. I heard the same thing from the RBH crowd about Saddam, as if it was a big deal when it was really nothing more than a juvenile-ish "Nya, na, nya, na, na". Then, when we finally caught Saddam virtually all of the RBH crowd chimed in with "It doesn't matter. Saddam's capture is meaningless. It doesn't change a thing."

Er...OK. If it wasn't important then why did they make such a big deal about it previously?

Mark my words. When OBL finally is captured, we'll hear the very same thing we heard from the RBH crowd about Saddam.

 

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Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: conjur
W = Wrong


Al Qaeda is still active and still engaging in and still planning attacks.
And capturing bin Laden won't change that one bit.

But didn't you know... Al Qaeda has been 75% destroyed....

Ummmm.... no. AQ is more powerful than ever, thanks to the Bush Administration foreign policy.

I would like to see some proof that AQ is more powerful than ever....

 
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Originally posted by: GoPackGo

There been no new video since December 2001...

There have been a number of audiotapes that the CIA has authenticated, however. I have no idea if he's alive or not, but it seems incongruent to me that OBL is #1 on the Ten Most Wanted list, and there is a $50M bounty on his head, yet we're being told the President isn't worried about him.

As I posted in the debate thread, the fact of the matter is, in the third debate, President Bush said he had never previously said he was not that concerned about finding OBL, when he had in fact said exactly that. I don't believe he intentionally lied, but he did state something completely false about his own words, as truth. I regard that as unseemly.

Frankly, in my view, it simply looks bad if the President of the United States:

a. Makes a rather ill-thought-out comment that he doesn't care about finding the nation's mortal enemy, Osama bin Laden, who is responsible for the largest terrorist attack in the world's history, killing 3,000+ Americans, and happens to be #1 on the FBI's Ten Most Wanted List,

b. When challenged about the statement by reporters, confirms that yes, he really doesn't care about OBL,

c. In the context of a nationally-televised presidential debate, apparently doesn't remember saying these things, although footage of the statement has appeared in a wildly successful documentary; and

d. Simply denies he ever said a and b in the first place.

 

arsbanned

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: kage69
And capturing bin Laden won't change that one bit.


What happened to bringing the most wanted man alive to justice? Knowing Bush's record as Governor of Texas in regards to criminals and punishment, this disgusts me, as does this attitude that OBL no longer matters.
Read what Bush said. He never said the OBL no longer matters. He said that OBL is on the run and his power has effectively been marginalized. Bush is not concerned about bin Laden because he is on the run and really can't do anything.
Oh realllllllllly.... Try again.

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority."
 

lozina

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Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: lozina
Originally posted by: TastesLikeChicken
Originally posted by: kage69
And capturing bin Laden won't change that one bit.


What happened to bringing the most wanted man alive to justice? Knowing Bush's record as Governor of Texas in regards to criminals and punishment, this disgusts me, as does this attitude that OBL no longer matters.
Read what Bush said. He never said the OBL no longer matters. He said that OBL is on the run and his power has effectively been marginalized. Bush is not concerned about bin Laden because he is on the run and really can't do anything.

How dare you contradict what the President says? Oh wait...

"Gosh, I just don't think I ever said I'm not worried about Osama bin Laden. It's kind of one of those exaggerations. "
As long as you want to turn a blind eye to what Bush actually said, and remove context, which seems to be a standard ploy for the RBH crowd, go ahead and feel that way.

It would be just as easy to take some Kerry quotes out of context and twist them around? Would you like to see me do it?


It depends on which version of the President you are agreeing with: the one that thinks bin Laden is a problem or the one who is not concerned?
 

GoPackGo

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