Bush knew...

[nihil]

this doesn't surprise me.

 

[Lucky]

Let us suppose I'm going to blow up a building, but you don't know who "I" am. Ok, now its up to you to guess which of the 30 million "buildings" I'm going to blow up...and when. Ready? Go.


The problem with that is that they knew it was osama bin laden who was planning it.

 

[TapTap]

Originally posted by: Lucky
Let us suppose I'm going to blow up a building, but you don't know who "I" am. Ok, now its up to you to guess which of the 30 million "buildings" I'm going to blow up...and when. Ready? Go.


The problem with that is that they knew it was osama bin laden who was planning it.

Planning what? Where? and to whom? He is responsible for attacks all over the world, and not just on US interests. By saying OBL was "training to attack" means only so much since he had the ENTIRE PLANET EARTH with which to pick a target.

 

[ToBeMe]

Originally posted by: Lucky
Let us suppose I'm going to blow up a building, but you don't know who "I" am. Ok, now its up to you to guess which of the 30 million "buildings" I'm going to blow up...and when. Ready? Go.


The problem with that is that they knew it was osama bin laden who was planning it.

Oh yeah......that makes ALL the difference..............😉 Since it was Osama they should have immeadiately known it would be the WTC and Pentagon right???? As opposed to any of the hundreds of other terrorists or say Saddam...................or any other target in the U.S. or world for that matter...............

 

[Czar]

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[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb
So what if Bush got a warning? What could he have done?

Hindsight is always 20/20, and it's really easy for all the idiotic Monday morning quarterbacks to chime in after the fact to say how things should have been done differently.

I will say this:

Any person who thinks that Bush or any other US official KNEW what was going to happen on 9/11/01, and that he purposely did nothing to prevent it, is a complete, total, utter, MORON, and if you post here admitting you think this, you should be banned from AT for life. Why? Because if you are so stupid that you can even think this, then nothing you could ever post here could be of any value to anyone.

The most intelligent post I've seen today. I'm sure that the FBI and other gov't agencies get reports everyday that something MIGHT happen, but how many of them actually happen?

The illegitimate dictator of the U.S. (Bush) only knew a month before? Not exactly...3 newspapers in Russia (Pravda, Isvestia, and one other newspaper whose name escapes me), published articles in June of 2001 stating that there would be a series of attacks on the U.S. starting in the fall of 2001. I don't believe for a second that this was common knowledge in Russia, but that Bush, who has at his disposal some of the greatest intelligence-gathering assets in the world, knew nothing about it at that time. Bush, like Clinton before him, will only admit something when he is caught, and then only as much as can be proven.

Furthermore, I have 3 times, listened to a clear tape recorded in 1994 of a middle-eastern FBI informant who flat-out stated that if he wasn't paid, that "planes will be used as missiles" on U.S. soil. Our inept FBI knew 8 years ago that Al-Queda was planning such attacks. The tape was provided by ex-CIA agent Mike Levine (also author of 'Deep Cover').

What are they supposed to do if they knew 8 years ago that this could happen? Stop all air travel just in case this might happen? I read a report that there are terrorists who are planning to distribute anthrax (or Boubonic Plague, can't remember which) via the exhaust on their cars. Should we prevent everyone from driving just in case this might come true? Let's see how you do as president when you don't let anyone fly because the plane might get hijacked or drive in their car because bio warfare might be waged using them? Someone once threatened to blow up the sears tower, let's evacuate everyone from there just in case until it happens. Maybe you should rethink your position. I'm not trying to criticize you because of your views, but you seem to think that our gov't is magical or something.

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: TapTap

Originally posted by: Lucky
Let us suppose I'm going to blow up a building, but you don't know who "I" am. Ok, now its up to you to guess which of the 30 million "buildings" I'm going to blow up...and when. Ready? Go.


The problem with that is that they knew it was osama bin laden who was planning it.

Planning what? Where? and to whom? He is responsible for attacks all over the world, and not just on US interests. By saying OBL was "training to attack" means only so much since he had the ENTIRE PLANET EARTH with which to pick a target.

The revelation that Bush was briefed about potential al Qaeda-led hijackings on at least one occasion before Sept. 11...


?There was . . . an awareness by the government, including the president, of Osama bin Laden and the threat he posed in the United States ....That included long-standing speculation about hijacking in the traditional sense..."


The agent was so concerned that he mentioned bin Laden in the first sentence of a five-page classified memorandum submitted to FBI headquarters. The memo suggested that terrorists from al Qaeda or other groups might be using flight schools to prepare for a hijacking or bombing plot


Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), a member of the Senate intelligence committee who has read the memo ?several times,? said yesterday it ?was very explicit in terms of connecting suspected terrorists in the United States with aviation training schools. That should have been a red flag.?

 

[shiner]

It was a red flag, that's why there was a warning. You people trying to turn this into something it is not just because of your hatred for President Bush are a bunch of miguided, mushy headed, blinded by your hatred, bunch of idiots. Give it a rest. Yes there was a warning. Could we know that {A. There would really be a hijacking {B. That they we then fly hijacked planes into buildings?

Morons

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
It was a red flag, that's why there was a warning. You people trying to turn this into something it is not just because of your hatred for President Bush are a bunch of miguided, mushy headed, blinded by your hatred, bunch of idiots. Give it a rest. Yes there was a warning. Could we know that {A. There would really be a hijacking {B. That they we then fly hijacked planes into buildings?

Morons

next step is usualy called "investigating" to check out if there is any basis for the warning

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
It was a red flag, that's why there was a warning. You people trying to turn this into something it is not just because of your hatred for President Bush are a bunch of miguided, mushy headed, blinded by your hatred, bunch of idiots. Give it a rest. Yes there was a warning. Could we know that {A. There would really be a hijacking {B. That they we then fly hijacked planes into buildings?

Morons

are you referring to me? The only reason I posted here was because tcsenter posted that we had no clue beforehand who the potential suspects were, and he implied we didnt know how they would attack either. Clearly, we had at least limited knowledge of both but the intelligence system massively failed.

The truth is that we did have some prior knowledge of it. Not a detailed itenerary of the hijackers, mind you, but enough so that we probably could have at least reduced the extent of the attack. Its just not in us to want to admit that.

 

[shiner]

are you referring to me?

No. I just used the bit about the red flag from your post to start my rant. I just get irritated with those on here that are trying to twist this story into saying we knew exactly what was going to happen beforehand.

 

[308nato]

"Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), a member of the Senate intelligence committee who has read the memo ?several times,? said yesterday it ?was very explicit in terms of connecting suspected terrorists in the United States with aviation training schools. That should have been a red flag."



Dick Durbin is a douchebag. Please don't quote him on anything imporntant. My head hurts for days afterward.

Myself, I shy away from any conspiracy theory written in Crayola.

 

[Lucky]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

are you referring to me?

No. I just used the bit about the red flag from your post to start my rant. I just get irritated with those on here that are trying to twist this story into saying we knew exactly what was going to happen beforehand.

I feel the same way. However this latest news irks me because right after 9/11 it seemed the gov't was telling us we got totally broadsided with no prior knowledge of any of this. Obviously hindsight is 20/20 but there were quite a few things that were just overlooked or ignored, and its deeply unsettling (to me) to learn that we were NOT blindsided and we probably could have done something had people been doign their jobs.

 

[jjones]

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: shinerburke
It was a red flag, that's why there was a warning. You people trying to turn this into something it is not just because of your hatred for President Bush are a bunch of miguided, mushy headed, blinded by your hatred, bunch of idiots. Give it a rest. Yes there was a warning. Could we know that {A. There would really be a hijacking {B. That they we then fly hijacked planes into buildings?

Morons

next step is usualy called "investigating" to check out if there is any basis for the warning

Yes, that's true. However part of law enforcement and investigation is allocation of resources and establishing priorities. Out of the many potentially credible threats, this is just another at the time. It's very easy to establish its importance after the fact.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: jjones

Originally posted by: Czar

Originally posted by: shinerburke
It was a red flag, that's why there was a warning. You people trying to turn this into something it is not just because of your hatred for President Bush are a bunch of miguided, mushy headed, blinded by your hatred, bunch of idiots. Give it a rest. Yes there was a warning. Could we know that {A. There would really be a hijacking {B. That they we then fly hijacked planes into buildings?

Morons

next step is usualy called "investigating" to check out if there is any basis for the warning

Yes, that's true. However part of law enforcement and investigation is allocation of resources and establishing priorities. Out of the many potentially credible threats, this is just another at the time. It's very easy to establish its importance after the fact.

true, but I'd relocate some funding when you get a warning from other foreign agencies like was in the news shortly after sept11, also we dont know if funding was the problem or not, thats something that should be investigated

 

[Czar]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-092001probe.story

 

[madthumbs]

http://forum.sharereactor.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=33073


edonkey link;

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Before reading this thread, or watching the film 'above' I felt that Bush was behind 9/11 and the anthrax. He comes across as being a coldhearted liar in his speaches trying to act caring but that's not what comes across to me. For those who don't want to see the film; It pretty much shows how Bush's family was on the special antibiotic for anthrax 1 whole week before the attack. Any attempt to stop the incident would result in arrest. The Bin Ladens have been friends with the Bush's for 3 generations. Bush had a lot to gain by the incident.

 

[shiner]

Man the idiocy in this thread is overwhelming.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: shinerburke
Man the idiocy in this thread is overwhelming.

I love you to darling 😉

 

[Czar]

http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/170072.html

 

[ToBeMe]

Any person who thinks that Bush or any other US official KNEW what was going to happen on 9/11/01, and that he purposely did nothing to prevent it, is a complete, total, utter, MORON, and if you post here admitting you think this, you should be banned from AT for life. Why? Because if you are so stupid that you can even think this, then nothing you could ever post here could be of any value to anyone.

Rereading the thread, the above sums it up the best IMHO. I also suppose that by now everyone has heard that two warnings WERE issued just prior to 9/11. The reports and intelligence they had was so vague that the warnings were issued universally with an emphasis on Asia according to media reports. Again, anyone whom can come up with a better solution than what occurred, please do..........short of stopping the entrance of all middleeastern people and gathering those here (which would have caused even more problems😉) and screening them.................what should have been done????

 

[ElFenix]

wheres the plane?!?!

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Some of you people are so stupid that your very existence consititutes a clear and present danger to the United States.

I can't believe that your Precinct Judge allows you morons to vote.

 

[UltraQuiet]

I posted this in the other thread that got buried and didn't feel like re-typing.

Let's face facts here folks. We got caught with our collective pants down. I mean everybody. Gov't, CIA, FBI, NCIS,DIS,military, etc, etc, etc. Everybody. Now I know what you are going to say " I'm John Q. Public, how was this my fault"? Well it wasn't really, but you and I sort of contributed. Did you raise a ruckus when Bush Sr and clinton gutted the intelligence agencies? Did you raise hell when the CIA's hands were tied in regards to informants. Would you have put up with the type of security that would have been required at airports to prevent these attacks. Security that would have been put in place based on a threat assesment that people even now don't even pay attention to? Did you say "Wait a minute" when bush and clinton drew down the military and defense spending? Be honest in your answers. We trusted our gov't to do the right thing and we were enjoying a great economy. This threat was probably on the daily brief right under the "North Korea, Iran and Iraq are trying to develop nukes" entry. Lets find out why this happened. If it was incompetence, get rid of it. If it was the system, lets fix it. My guess is there is plenty of blame to go around, spanning a couple of administrations and several goverment agencies.
For all of you people demanding accountability from Bush, where were you during the 90's? And let's be clear, the whole 90's. Bush Sr and clinton's administrations both contributed to this by the actions I stated before. I think before any of you start demanding accountability from this President you should answer my demand for your accountability as a citizen during the 90's.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: ToBeMe

Any person who thinks that Bush or any other US official KNEW what was going to happen on 9/11/01, and that he purposely did nothing to prevent it, is a complete, total, utter, MORON, and if you post here admitting you think this, you should be banned from AT for life. Why? Because if you are so stupid that you can even think this, then nothing you could ever post here could be of any value to anyone.

Rereading the thread, the above sums it up the best IMHO. I also suppose that by now everyone has heard that two warnings WERE issued just prior to 9/11. The reports and intelligence they had was so vague that the warnings were issued universally with an emphasis on Asia according to media reports. Again, anyone whom can come up with a better solution than what occurred, please do..........short of stopping the entrance of all middleeastern people and gathering those here (which would have caused even more problems😉) and screening them.................what should have been done????

I agree with you both...I'd like to add that I think the gov't should allocate more money and manpower to intel-gathering...