Bush Jr: 'History will ultimately judge'

[s0me0nesmind1]

History tends to forget partisian BS. Bush cut taxes for everybody. The Bush taxes on the middle and lower classes were so popular they were made permanent but I guess that part doesn’t work well in your view of history.

Bazinga! Liberals can't even touch on the 2nd post in the thread about Bush Jr Bwahahahaha

 

[shortylickens]

 

[Moonbeam]

If you voted for Bush you're probably, if a conservative, trying to defend your imbecilic vote. Conservatives have been scientifically proven to deflect any information that would cause them to feel shame, and because deflecting the shame that one deserves to feel is shameful in the extreme, they are not going to see it. Nothing can be done about this. A person has to be willing to die to his beliefs if he is ever going to face reality. The truth hurts those who want to avoid the pain it brings, so they bubble up.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

If you voted for Bush you're probably, if a conservative, trying to defend your imbecilic vote. Conservatives have been scientifically proven to deflect any information that would cause them to feel shame, and because deflecting the shame that one deserves to feel is shameful in the extreme, they are not going to see it. Nothing can be done about this. A person has to be willing to die to his beliefs if he is ever going to face reality. The truth hurts those who want to avoid the pain it brings, so they bubble up.

What if one feels pity?

 

[xBiffx]

What if you never voted for Bush?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

What if you never voted for Bush?

What if you didn't like any of them

 

[Matt1970]

What if one feels pity?

You will feel what Moonbeam tells you to feel.

 

[JEDI]

As soon as one of these joker toadies die the corporate media just rewrite their legacy. (Reagan, Thatcher) Jr is probably correct.
Polishing shiny turds into a narrative for the braindead is one of capitalisms main strengths.

Nixon too

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You will feel what Moonbeam tells you to feel.

We aren't that way. He'll consider that short sentence before replying.

Here's the thing of it. If people were the sum of all their actions without looking at what they tried or wanted or felt or thought it would be easy to categorize them and say "he should be scourged" or "he deserves no mercy" or "he merits praise" Just make a list.

I can't feel that way. I have to look at their intent as I understand it. Did someone commit an evil act because they wanted to do harm? Is that person therefore as another who hoped to do something worthwhile but because of one reason or another failed? What places a person beyond redemption, or worthy of eternal damnation if it comes down to it?

I'm not the one to come to give absolution or to say that the Iraq war was just some mistake to ignore. No, it was tragically wrong, and many people did evil things. I'll never justify it. Still, when I look at him I feel pity. Am I wrong to do so and does that make me a fool in others eyes for it? Personally I am what I am and do not seek to change that. The bomber in custody in Boston? I feel some pity too, more than anger. I feel sorrow for those who suffered horrific loss, and I do not excuse the bomber for his actions, yet I feel less than satsified if he were punished and revenge for all his wrongs were heaped on him. If justice were served, I would still not be at peace. I see what ought not to have been and in the end sadness will be my sense of things, not hate nor revenge, nor even vindication for what I feel. It's just how I respond to such things and such people, even Bush.

 

[Moonbeam]

What if one feels pity?

Then you are feeling the pain that truth brings. You are the Rock Biter who used to have such good strong hands:

http://movieclips.com/3W7k-the-neverending-story-movie-big-good-strong-hands/

 

[nextJin]

You guys should really just buy/read Bushs book called Decision Points.

I used to slam him for everything that went wrong, but after reading it I can only fault him with EVERYTHING else other than Katrina.

He never apologizes for Iraq and insists it was the right call.

With Katrina though, I can't find fault with him. He has very good points and most fall on the State government and local government saying they got this, everything is controlled, etc. He would have had to override their authority and iirc mentioned insurrection.

 

[Steeplerot]

Nixon too[/Q]

Wonder if Carter's legacy will be sanitized by corporate media in the same fashion as Reagan, Nixon and Bush I II?

I somehow doubt it.

Admittedly Clinton will become a man of the people like FDR (even though he screwed the poor)

'Murica loves trailerpark sleaze drama.

 

[Pr0d1gy]

I thought it was a moving touch to put a piece of the WTC in his library for everyone to see.

 

[SP33Demon]

Five words to GWB: Signing statements are not law.

 

[Steeplerot]

I thought it was a moving touch to put a piece of the WTC in his library for everyone to see.

A very appropriate stool to sit on while reading my pet goat.

 

[Baasha]

History will also show that Saddam's reign (and subsequently his life) ended as a direct result of the wars. Unjust/false won't be mentioned inside any history book 50 years from now. That will be reserved for fiction novels and rag publications.

You mean like the Bible?

Saddam's reign had no impact on America or Americans. Bush's illegal invasion of Iraq and subsequent execution of Saddam was a direct result of personal vendetta. Of course, a loquacious nitwit like you that thinks the earth is 6000 years old would like to pretend otherwise.

If a bad regime and its excesses on its country's citizens was really at the root of the invasion of Iraq, America would man up and support the freedom movement against the illegal occupation of Tibet by China. Alas, courage, principle, and ethical positioning were given way for moral turpitude by America in this instance.

Further, 50 years from now the economic center of the world will be in Asia as it was till the early part of the 19th century; America's bloated sense of importance in the world will come crashing down like a meteor.

In 1750, all of western Europe and America accounted for less than 2% of the world's economic pie. It is now at around 80% (since the 20th century). That won't be for long though, thanks to the colossal mistake that Bush made in starting this endless 'war' that simply is a bloodletting of America's economy. That, coupled with the scant regard for the common American citizen by the multi-national corporations, will ensure America's place in history.

What's the phrase they use in podunk-ville you're from? "Get 'er done?" :biggrin:

 

[sportage]

We've seen a lot of BS in our history.
We've lived through a lot of BS in our history.
But painting GW as anything other than a total failure is about as deep at that BS will ever get. Up to the neck in stinky brown stuff. No other way to describe it.
Watching the news media in the last few days trying to paint lipstick on this ass of a pig was a new low for behavior of insanity.
GW policies were bigoted. GW drained our surplus. GW killed thousands of our military. GW raided our retirement funds. GW wallowed in corruption.
To be kind in the least would be to say GW was a national disgrace.

He doesn't deserve a library, he deserves a prison cell.
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