Bush Jr: 'History will ultimately judge'

[JEDI]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/24/politics/bush-interview-king/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Today is the opening of his Pres Library and to some marks the beginning of his legacy.

"I am confident that when this chapter of our life is finished, that we'll both be able to say that we've advanced the cause of peace and freedom and -- and the human -- and helped improve the human condition."


History will show he was a puppet... Big $ pulling his strings to the detriment of America.

cutting taxes on the wealthy while fighting a (unjust/false) war in Iaq that he started.
cutting the penalty big tobacco has to pay after all the hard work of his prosecutors in getting the big verdict, causing the chief prosecutor to resign in disgust and anger.
Katrina
etc, etc


edit:
Medicare Part D -> Billions of taxpayer $$$ gifted to big Pharma on silver platter
(thx Incorruptible)

 

[waggy]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/24/politics/bush-interview-king/index.html?hpt=hp_t1




History will show he was a puppet... Big $ pulling his strings to the detriment of America.

and how is that different from any of the last few presidents we have had?

 

[Matt1970]

History tends to forget partisian BS. Bush cut taxes for everybody. The Bush taxes on the middle and lower classes were so popular they were made permanent but I guess that part doesn’t work well in your view of history.

 

[xBiffx]

History will also show that Saddam's reign (and subsequently his life) ended as a direct result of the wars. Unjust/false won't be mentioned inside any history book 50 years from now. That will be reserved for fiction novels and rag publications.

 

[AustinInDallas]

Im sure saddam would have done great things if he was allowed to stay in power.

 

[Incorruptible]

george bush had many horrible policies such as cutting taxes while increasing spending, the Iraq war, Medicare Part D, Continuation of crony Capitalism.

But he really isn't that different from other presidents who were just as horrible.

It's also very hypocritical for people to say they dislike bush but like obama since both have the same policies on major issues.

 

[Steeplerot]

As soon as one of these joker toadies die the corporate media just rewrite their legacy. (Reagan, Thatcher) Jr is probably correct.
Polishing shiny turds into a narrative for the braindead is one of capitalisms main strengths.

 

[Steeplerot]

History will also show that Saddam's reign (and subsequently his life) ended as a direct result of the wars. Unjust/false won't be mentioned inside any history book 50 years from now. That will be reserved for fiction novels and rag publications.

No different from Spanish American war, where the yellow journalist media helped a Republican lie us into a war by using a tragic event to whip up nationalism.

Remember the Towers/The Maine. Same bullshit.

History is not and will not be kind to Bush's failed war.

I am sure though he will be loved in his library. Where its all "my pet goat".

 

[WHAMPOM]

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/24/politics/bush-interview-king/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Today is the opening of his Pres Library and to some marks the beginning of his legacy.

"I am confident that when this chapter of our life is finished, that we'll both be able to say that we've advanced the cause of peace and freedom and -- and the human -- and helped improve the human condition."


History will show he was a puppet... Big $ pulling his strings to the detriment of America.

cutting taxes on the wealthy while fighting a (unjust/false) war in Iaq that he started.
cutting the penalty big tobacco has to pay after all the hard work of his prosecutors in getting the big verdict, causing the chief prosecutor to resign in disgust and anger.
Katrina
etc, etc

The best comment I have heard was on Leno, "BUSH LIBERRY".

 

[WHAMPOM]

Im sure saddam would have done great things if he was allowed to stay in power.

Saddam's black market oil sales depressed Saudi oil prices, so he just had to go.

 

[Smoblikat]

Bush was internally just as evil as every president since JFK, but externally he was much funnier

"Fool me once......shame on, uh...me and if you fool me twice its shame on, uh....me?"

 

[kage69]

and how is that different from any of the last few presidents we have had?

Are you serious?


You look back at Katrina and Iraq and think they represent no departure from the norm of presidential conduct?


Wow.

 

[kage69]

Saddam's black market oil sales depressed Saudi oil prices, so he just had to go.

He also had the gall to think about using currency other than the US dollar for oil sales.

A ruler with that much crude under his feet that could halt exports according to his whim or politics was also seen as... counterproductive.

And to think, if it wasn't for Iran Contra our relationship with Iraq might have never gone the way it did.

 

[xBiffx]

Are you serious?


You look back at Katrina and Iraq and think they represent no departure from the norm of presidential conduct?


Wow.

Do tell. Wondering what you think is the "norm of presidential conduct."

 

[waggy]

Are you serious?


You look back at Katrina and Iraq and think they represent no departure from the norm of presidential conduct?


Wow.

what? you blaming bush for Katrina? are you nuts. he had nothing to do with any of it.

Iraq? again how is he worse then OBAMA for ramping up soldiers? WE FINALLY (after 4 years of obama) are pulling out..slowly.


again you paint a stroke with Bush but fail to look at others.

 

[kage69]

I can't stop smiling at the whole notion of a library being dedicated to that guy.

It's like I just saw a sign proclaiming the grand opening of a new Amish car dealership/garage.

 

[kage69]

Do tell. Wondering what you think is the "norm of presidential conduct."

Go compare Bush's reaction to Katrina with the reactions to national state of emergencies made by his modern predecessors. Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, etc. all of them had a fucking clue and a desire to jump in a help. None of them went to a ballgame. None of them sat through emergency meetings, silently, waiting to bail like a kid at the end of school day.

W, that intellectual titan, put Brown in charge of FEMA. That alone makes him stand out.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

History will indeed judge Bush. And it will find him lacking.

 

[xBiffx]

Go compare Bush's reaction to Katrina with the reactions to national state of emergencies made by his modern predecessors. Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, etc. all of them had a fucking clue and a desire to jump in a help. None of them went to a ballgame. None of them sat through emergency meetings, silently, waiting to bail like a kid at the end of school day.

W, that intellectual titan, put Brown in charge of FEMA. That alone makes him stand out.

You want me to compare the reaction of one President to the costliest natural disaster in US history to the reaction of another President to something not even remotely close.

I might as well compare his and Obama's golf game while I am at it.

Clearly the appointment of Brown caused a natural disaster.

You really are an idiot.

 

[Matt1970]

Go compare Bush's reaction to Katrina with the reactions to national state of emergencies made by his modern predecessors. Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, etc. all of them had a fucking clue and a desire to jump in a help. None of them went to a ballgame. None of them sat through emergency meetings, silently, waiting to bail like a kid at the end of school day.

W, that intellectual titan, put Brown in charge of FEMA. That alone makes him stand out.

I am not going to defend the delayed reaction of Bush during Katrina but all Obama did differently in Sandy was tell state officials to cut through the red tape.

 

[kage69]

what? you blaming bush for Katrina?

No, I'm not. I'm questioning your memory and/or intellectual honesty.

Iraq? again how is he worse then OBAMA for ramping up soldiers? WE FINALLY (after 4 years of obama) are pulling out..slowly.

You must really have chugged some KoolAid to even type that. So much fail in 2 sentences, wow. WMD? AQ and Saddam? Yellowcake? Plamegate? Any of that ring a bell? Again, are you fucking serious???

If you really think Obama's metered withdrawal from Iraq is somehow worse than manipulating and lying his way into invading Iraq, you need help. You also need to stop talking because people are going to think you are retarded.

again you paint a stroke with Bush but fail to look at others.

False and baseless. Comparing that puppet to others who functioned in a capacity greater than announcer/fund raiser is actually an amusing task that I still do.
Apologists for Bush are still engaged in their struggle too it seems...

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

History will indeed judge Bush. And it will find him lacking.

Agreed, but Katrina is not going to be something that they are going to beat him up on. The magnitude of the disaster wasn't even understood at the time, and let's say that the state and local government wasn't very helpful either. Sometimes things just go to shit. Could they have been handled better? Sure, but I'm not so sure as to how and what degree considering what could have been known. There's enough other things to use to throw him under a bus.

 

[kage69]

You want me to compare the reaction of one President to the costliest natural disaster in US history to the reaction of another President to something not even remotely close.

I might as well compare his and Obama's golf game while I am at it.

Clearly the appointment of Brown caused a natural disaster.

You really are an idiot.

Yes, hide behind a dollar amount of damage, make a flippant comparison to something mundane, and call me an idiot.

Brilliant rebuttal.


You didn't make a point, but at least you avoided what I was talking about. Really firing on all cylinders lately Biff, way to go. *clap*

 

[xBiffx]

Yes, hide behind a dollar amount of damage, make a flippant comparison to something mundane, and call me an idiot.

Brilliant rebuttal.


You didn't make a point, but at least you avoided what I was talking about. Really firing on all cylinders lately Bill, way to go. *clap*

You want someone to compare two completely unrelated events that didn't happen at the same time and draw a conclusion about the Presidents' reaction and you don't like it when someone points out how stupid that is.

mmmk.

BTW, I'm not hiding behind anything.

 

[waggy]

Agreed, but Katrina is not going to be something that they are going to beat him up on. The magnitude of the disaster wasn't even understood at the time, and let's say that the state and local government wasn't very helpful either. Sometimes things just go to shit. Could they have been handled better? Sure, but I'm not so sure as to how and what degree considering what could have been known. There's enough other things to use to throw him under a bus.

agreed. looking back now most but politcal hacks understand what really happened in Katrina. Also after many things changed to hopefuly make relief of such disasters better. though a few things i read it slowed down relief in many areas. I think perhaps this is really something the government needs to look at.


I don't think you can really look at the line of Presidents and bitch to much about only one party. Obama is fallowing many of Bush's things many critizied him over.