imported_Aelius
Golden Member
Originally posted by: IronMentality
Originally posted by: Aelius
That's your flawed reasoning and you don't like it that Canadians are calling you on it.
WTF kind of logic is; you make most of your cash off us so you better STFU and like what we do or else face our economic wrath!
Do yourself a favour and write to your congressman asking for them to bring up the topic of trade sanctions against Canada. Perhaps you can convince others to do the same and get a movement going and then perhaps the US can sever all ties with Canada and you will graciously allow Canadians to think and speak for themselves.
Unfvcking believable. The nerve of some people.
If you actually read the first post I made, Canada has been our friend and I thanked them for it. They've stuck with us all along the way. I have no problem if Canada disagrees (which they do) on Iraq policy. That is great. We can debate in a friendly manner at all times. However, I disagree with the fact there state-run television station is completely Anti-American with no objectivity (just like the majority of newspapers, and TV stations in the U.S. claim to be objective like the NY Times and Washington Post but are not) -- and that now because of this super liberalism that's run a muck there, 40% of Canadian teenagers think the U.S. is a source of evil.
It's not that there's institutionalized hate vs. Americans. It's that America provides a lot of ammunition on this subject, which is then used against them. If a US administration acts in what is widely perceived to be a honourable and just way then Canadians, and others, would praise such action. Even if it is completely misleading and the disinformation is feed to these people is then believed by Canadians and others.
Example? Seemed like a very noble, honest, and the right thing to do to free Kuwait right?
1990: That poor little Kuwaiti teenage girl giving a horrific account to a congressional committee of seeing Iraqi soldiers tossing hundreds of infants out of incubators in the Kuwaiti City Hospital. Then President Bush's administration as well as the media ate it up. After all how could it possibly be untrue?
Well state sponsored propaganda is alive and well. It turns out she was the daughter of a Kuwaiti diplomat and was coerced into making the account. Fact is the speech, note I call it a speech, was actually written by Hill & Knowlton, a major PR firm, one of several hired by the Kuwaiti government and royalty to wage a sort of public relations war on the US to convince them that its worth going to war to save them.
It worked.
I simply put in perspective how much the United States means to Canada. Bush is also a strong proponent of free trade... that includes neighbouring Canada. Therefore this is how Canada can maintain it's standard of living. Yet Canadians come out screaming like he is the devil... for allowing our citizens to buy your goods and services. I would in no way shape or from discuss sanctions or a boycott with any decent law-abiding country whether I disagree with there political decisions or not.
If Bush would have taken Canada serious, at all, his administration would have taken seriously the WTO ruling telling, not asking, the US to abide by free trade laws that it violated. Not once. But twice.
As for Americans raiding our pharmacies. I can't speak for others but you won't see me fighting over a bottle of Tylenol with an American at my local pharmacy. God knows they can use it. (taps joke meter).
Free trade agreements like the U.S. has struck with other countries is responsible for the world's most prosperous year ever according to the World Bank. Economic growth around the world has jumpstarted the last few years resulting in the highest standard of living the Earth has ever seen.
It's not STFU or face our wrath -- and it shouldn't just be 'Screw Bush, screw America THERE THE REAL TERRORISTS!' Irregardless, it's just the deep honest truth that if it wasn't for America, Canada would lose all of its tax revenue and if it wasn't for America, Europe would fall into a deep recession. They rely on the American economic engine to fuel there manufacturing sector and goods, because of there socialistic economic policies -- they have double digit unemployment and no domestic spending within there countries.
You're right it shouldn't be just "Screw Bush". Of course that would require him to do something positive that impacts someone other than Americans. Call me when Bush figures out who the real enemy is. Best out of three?
The U.S. today manufacturers and of that manufacturing uses 75% of those goods inside the United States. The world needs us more then we need them. But how have we functioned with the world since 1776? Talking, debating, and reaching compromises. It's when the "crap" hits the fan from other countries are such drastic measures taken.
I think it would be a very good idea to look at American history and for Americans to ask themselves exactly how the US has functioned with the rest of the world since its inception. Such as Canada, Britain, Mexico, Spain, China, Japan, Guatemala, Hungary, , Chile, Vietnam, Kuwait, Afghanistan, Iraq etc etc. When you find a 100% objective and 100% honest American history book used in a school that explains in detail what the US has done and the lessons learned you let me know. Because at that point you have made history and I want to cheer for whomever had the guts to institute reality into the history class.
See my bolded text above under each section.
