Bush in big trouble...Cue the Distraction! Stat!

[theeedude]

Think about that next time you get cigarettes at the quicky mart. It may come back to kill you

 

[maluckey]

Yes the people arrested claim that just because their culture is diferent that they are not liable to follow the Law? Or just because they know enough English to sell Pseudoephedrine out the back door for 1000 dollars per case, but can't follow the law, that it's not a problem?

BTW...what did they do with that Pseudoephedrine??? You cannot take that much and not die and it only has one other use...

What's next Conjur? I know!!! O.J. said that he didn't do it so therefore it must be so!!

 

[maluckey]

DEA has also seen a significant increase in the amount of product that is illegally obtained from Canada. This product is typically used at large clandestine laboratories. DEA believes that as recently implemented Canadian regulations become more effective at curbing the illegal distribution of product from Canada to the United States, there will be greater pressure on other sources of supply. In fact, recent information indicates a possible decrease in chemicals smuggled from Canada, with an increase of suspicious shipments to and through Mexico.

More easy to see issues with your blinders in the way, you don't see where this leads.

 

[maluckey]

The typical operation method was that these traffickers would go to great length to hide their activities by using a FedEx logo on the truck, or even using a trailer that was stolen from the United States Mail, and using that logo on their truck to appear legitimate. The majority of the traffickers are of Middle Eastern descent, and we have determined that they send drug proceeds in part back to the Middle East, and we are continuing to follow the money trail.

Asa Hutchinson, 2002

 

[maluckey]

More craziness for Conjur....Sellling Pseudo is just one of many ways that terror gets funding

From Hezbollah: Financing Terror Through Criminal Enterprise1

The most outstanding case in North America is the Charlotte, North Carolina, cell run by two brothers, Mohammed and Chawki Hamoud. In June 2002, the Hamoud brothers were convicted of a variety of charges including funding the activities of Hezbollah from the proceeds of an interstate cigarette smuggling ring. Seven other defendants pled guilty to a variety of charges stemming from this case, including conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists, cigarette smuggling, money laundering and immigration violations.47 Mohammed Hassan Dbouk and his brother-in-law, Ali Adham Amhaz, ran the Canadian portion of this network under the command of Haj Hasan Hilu Laqis (Hezbollah's chief military procurement officer). Their activities were funded in part with money that Laqis sent from Lebanon, in addition to their own criminal activities in Canada (e.g., credit card and banking scams).48 Among the items that they purchased in Canada and the U.S. and smuggled into Lebanon were night-vision goggles, global positioning systems, stun guns, naval equipment, nitrogen cutters and laser range finders. The Canadian Hezbollah network also sought to take out life insurance policies for Hezbollah operatives committing acts of terrorism in the Middle East.49 According to a wiretapped conversation with another member of his cell that was summarized by Canadian intelligence, ?Dbouk referred to a person down there [in Southern Lebanon] ? who might in a short period of time go for a ?walk? ? and never come back, and wondering if Said [the other cell member] could fix some papers and details ? for him (person) and put himself (Said) as the reference.?50

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: maluckey
Yes the people arrested claim that just because their culture is diferent that they are not liable to follow the Law? Or just because they know enough English to sell Pseudoephedrine out the back door for 1000 dollars per case, but can't follow the law, that it's not a problem?

BTW...what did they do with that Pseudoephedrine??? You cannot take that much and not die and it only has one other use...

What's next Conjur? I know!!! O.J. said that he didn't do it so therefore it must be so!!

I invite you to reread that passage and then pay close attention to the article in the OP.

Now, where is the link to terrorism?


Don't see it.


As for your other posts, they have NOTHING to do with this thread or terrorism.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: ntdz
Uh huh...if Bush does nothing then he's not fighting terrorism, if he does then it's just a distraction...

In the 4+ years since 9/11, how many "terrorists" have been brought to trial? 1? 2 maybe?

How many thousands have we killed?

In the US (which is what we're talking about): ZERO, eh?

And look at maluckey with the expected ad hominems. Typical.

Maybe we haven't killed or captured any here because we killed all the ones that wanted to come over here in Afghanistan, or they went to Iraq instead because it was closer.

 

[conjur]

Uhh.....yeah...right.

Like the 90% innocent in Gitmo and Abu Ghraib?

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: conjur
Uhh.....yeah...right.

Like the 90% innocent in Gitmo and Abu Ghraib?

90% innocent? Haha, good one. I'd really like to know how you know that considering THEY HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN TRIED YET (and never will). We just go around arresting a bunch of innocent people on purpose, right? Oh wait, you think fighting against our troops is a good thing, so they didn't do anything wrong anyway, right?

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: maluckey
Funny thing is....maybe you remember when I mentioned that in my former career I was a Federal Officer? I used to serve warrants and shut down convenience stores nationwide for Pseudoepedrine trafficking. One thousand to Fourteen hundren dollars a case for Pseudo was the going rate in Arkansas in 2000. Street price for Meth was about 1000 dollars a once for 80-85 percent pure. Do the math, and your homework genious.

Look up structured accounts, Meth manufacturing in Arkansas and used car lots and then laugh away.

Those pseudoephedrine laws are a pain in the ass. My son had a bad cold earlier this week and was having trouble sleeping. I had to drive all the way across town to the 24 hour pharmacy instead of going to the 24 hour grocery down the street ... to buy infant Dimetapp. :thumbsdown:

If the stupid redneck methheads want to blow up their trailer park making that crap, I say, let them. Cleans out the gene pool.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: conjur
Uhh.....yeah...right.

Like the 90% innocent in Gitmo and Abu Ghraib?

90% innocent? Haha, good one. I'd really like to know how you know that considering THEY HAVEN'T EVEN BEEN TRIED YET (and never will). We just go around arresting a bunch of innocent people on purpose, right? Oh wait, you think fighting against our troops is a good thing, so they didn't do anything wrong anyway, right?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4944094/

GENEVA - Intelligence officers of the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq estimated that 70 percent to 90 percent of Iraqi detainees were arrested by mistake, the Red Cross said in a report that was disclosed Monday

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=128708

Title: Falsehoods About Guantanamo
Source: National Journal
URL Source: http://nationaljournal.com/taylor.htm

A high percentage, perhaps the majority, of the 500-odd men now held at Guantanamo were not captured on any battlefield, let alone on "the battlefield in Afghanistan" (as Bush asserted) while "trying to kill American forces" (as McClellan claimed).

Fewer than 20 percent of the Guantanamo detainees, the best available evidence suggests, have ever been Qaeda members.

Many scores, and perhaps hundreds, of the detainees were not even Taliban foot soldiers, let alone Qaeda terrorists. They were innocent, wrongly seized noncombatants with no intention of joining the Qaeda campaign to murder Americans.

http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0223-20.htm

. . . a majority of the detainees (are) not Afghans but were captured in Pakistan. Seventy-five per cent of those who have brought habeas petitions are not accused of conducting hostilities against the US.

. . . 80 per cent of the detainees were never members of al-Qaeda and many were not Taliban foot soldiers.

Much of the evidence against them is flimsy, having been gathered second-, third- or fourth-hand.

Others, at least 10, are held because when they were rounded up they were wearing Casio watches and the US Defence Department says these watches are similar to a model with a circuit board used by al-Qaeda for making bombs. This model is sold in shops around the world.

You were saying?

 

[maluckey]

If the stupid redneck methheads want to blow up their trailer park making that crap, I say, let them. Cleans out the gene pool.

If it was JUST the Rednecks I would agree. They really never afected anyone but their own families. Once the big money of selling Pseudo hit, the days of only mom and pop cooking their own and nobody getting hurt dissappeared.

 

[conjur]

ACLU accuse federal prosecutors of ethnic bias in meth sting
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/ACLU_...ederal_prosecutors_of_ethnic_0405.html

"The American Civil Liberties Union is accusing federal prosecutors of ethnic bias in a methamphetamine sting last summer in which Asian convenience store owners in Georgia were charged with selling household ingredients that can be used to make the highly addictive drug," Kate Zernike writes in the Thursday edition of The New York Times.

"The group said that prosecutors ignored extensive evidence that white-owned stores were selling the same items to methamphetamine makers, focusing instead on Asians to take advantage of language barriers," the article continues. "Forty-four of the 49 people charged were Indian, and 23 out of 24 stores in the sting were Indian owned or operated."

Developing...

I'd like to see this extensive evidence to see just how biased the Feds were. I guess the NYT article will have that info when it's available in full.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: maluckey
Funny thing is....maybe you remember when I mentioned that in my former career I was a Federal Officer? I used to serve warrants and shut down convenience stores nationwide for Pseudoepedrine trafficking. One thousand to Fourteen hundren dollars a case for Pseudo was the going rate in Arkansas in 2000. Street price for Meth was about 1000 dollars a once for 80-85 percent pure. Do the math, and your homework genious.

Look up structured accounts, Meth manufacturing in Arkansas and used car lots and then laugh away.

You don't have to go to a US stores to buy up a ton of Pseudoepedrine. Just hop over south of the border and you can buy as much as you need as was demostrated in a recent documentery about Meth which was shown on PBS.