Wrong. Everyon who supports Kerry will say he won. Everyone who supports Bush that has some sense will say Kerry won. Neocons say Bush won.
Bush looked bad and his answers were just poor at best. And did you see the shots of how Bush looked when Kerry was talking? Bush just looked real bad and he appeared to have no answers.
I was so sure I was going to vote for but after this debate it's sealed.
1 more vote for Bush!!!
OMG you so got me Pee Wee Herman Style! you Pwned me!Originally posted by: sillymofo
Yes, you are.Originally posted by: alchemize
LOL. What a tool.
Are you for real? Have you seen the outside of your precious little basement?
Didn't vote in last election, but it didn't matter (CA). Will definitely be voting in this election... even though I still live in CA and it probably won't matter.
Voting for Kerry. Bush did well but got pwned.
Voting for Kerry. Bush did well but got pwned.
Too late, the Local Neocon Talk Show Host got through when I didn't have a Tin Foil Hat on my 1 hr drive to work this morning. Bush, Leadership, Integrity and Morality :thumbsup:
Not sure why I stopped off in this thread. I'll see if there is another where it isn't populated by children and Leftist Mutual Massage sessions.
Kerry spoke more smoothly, but Bush nevertheless was clear about his objectives. I especially liked the delievery of Bush's closing arguments. I terms of content (I might be saying this because I support Bush over Kerry), Bush was the winner (especially in terms of how Kerry glossed over the flip-flop accusations with broad, feel-good statements that gave philosophy but failed to justify the specific change of views of which he was accused (like the $87 billion dollar troop support fund)). And Bush delivered the message adequately.
First of all, we don't have basement in California. Secondly, why do I have to spend any thought on answering you? After all, it doesn't really take much to upset someone with a 7 yrs old personality.Originally posted by: alchemize
OMG you so got me Pee Wee Herman Style! you Pwned me!Originally posted by: sillymofo
Yes, you are.Originally posted by: alchemize
LOL. What a tool.
Are you for real? Have you seen the outside of your precious little basement?
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Originally posted by: kage69
Someone post a link when it hits the net!
"A retarded man held his own against a sitting senator"
After giving it some more thought, as the opponent of an incumbent president, I don't think this debate was a slam dunk for Kerry. Kerry was more composed and articulate than Bush, but we already knew he would be. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't all Kerry really say was that he would do the same things Bush was doing, just do them better? And does that really count for substance?
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I went into the debate with an open mind, I think, and frankly afraid that Bush would win by backing Kerry into a corner and making him look awkward and halting. I definitely have a bias in terms of my vote, but I was prepared to acknowledge Bush as a winner if he won.
I'd have to say Kerry won by a country mile. He came off as smart, very knowledgeable, and appropriately aggressive. Bush seemed petulant and angry to me.
One thing competent trial attorneys learn very quickly is never to let your opponent (or worse yet, the jury) see you sweat. When you're not speaking, you don't want to look angry, frustrated, surprised, disappointed, jubilant, or anything else that makes you look less than composed.
One of the most obvious aspects of the debate to me was the fact that, when President Bush was speaking, Sen Kerry stood calmly, listened carefully, and showed no emotion. When Kerry was speaking, President Bush looked openly flustered and angry, and frantically took notes (you could hear his pen frantically scratching away, whereas Kerry did no such thing when Bush was speaking). He repeatedly demanded more debate time, and several times he was obviously too flustered to immediately start talking when it was his turn.
I was also generally impressed with Sen Kerry's ability to articulate substantive positions and plans, whereas President Bush, when he was uncomfortable, kept returning to catch phrases and cliches.
I don't know whether this debate will change minds and gain votes, but it definitely gives Sen Kerry some much-needed momentum. I still think President Bush is the front runner, but this debate set the stage for an interesting October.
I'd have to say Kerry won by a country mile. He came off as smart, very knowledgeable, and appropriately aggressive. Bush seemed petulant and angry to me.
One thing competent trial attorneys learn very quickly is never to let your opponent (or worse yet, the jury) see you sweat. When you're not speaking, you don't want to look angry, frustrated, surprised, disappointed, jubilant, or anything else that makes you look less than composed.
One of the most obvious aspects of the debate to me was the fact that, when President Bush was speaking, Sen Kerry stood calmly, listened carefully, and showed no emotion. When Kerry was speaking, President Bush looked openly flustered and angry, and frantically took notes (you could hear his pen frantically scratching away, whereas Kerry did no such thing when Bush was speaking). He repeatedly demanded more debate time, and several times he was obviously too flustered to immediately start talking when it was his turn.
I was also generally impressed with Sen Kerry's ability to articulate substantive positions and plans, whereas President Bush, when he was uncomfortable, kept returning to catch phrases and cliches.
I don't know whether this debate will change minds and gain votes, but it definitely gives Sen Kerry some much-needed momentum. I still think President Bush is the front runner, but this debate set the stage for an interesting October.
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