Bush, for gun control? yep it appears

[HappyGamer2]

just like his daddy, back stabber

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/


WA post

 

[sMiLeYz]

Its a good thing that he supports gun control, lets hope he doesnt half ass it like his enviromental policies.

 

[HappyGamer2]

no I don't think it's a good thing that he for gun control, but he is following in dad's footsteps and back stabbing, but what can ya expect from a Bush

 

[Zebo]

Corn, you listening?




Inside joke re: PMs

 

[HappyPuppy]

I don't see the necessity for private individuals to own assault weapons. Other than that, I am pro gun.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: HappyPuppy
I don't see the necessity for private individuals to own assault weapons. Other than that, I am pro gun.

Define "Assault Weapon"?

 

[jjones]

Personally, I don't care about so-called assault weapons; I suppose I might own one if I were a collector. I do reject on principle the ban of assault weapons though. They are singled out for no other reason than that they look "big and scary" to all the Mad Mother groups and gun grabbers. If actual crime were tied specifically to these weapons and it could be shown that the ban currently in effect had noticeably reduced crime committed with guns, then I might reconsider, but that is not the case.

 

[HappyGamer2]

were are all the Bush lov'in flag boys?
you know they will rationalize that this OK, but what can ya expect from blind followers

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: HappyGamer2
were are all the Bush lov'in flag boys?
you know they will rationalize that this OK, but what can ya expect from blind followers

<-- raises hand I was at the mall shopping for my vacation trip. Spending my money like the good little economy stimilator Neo-con I am

EDIT - cuz Bush said i wasn't patriotic if i didn't spend my money

Yeah Bush doesn't get a pass from me on this.:| I can see where he wan't to maybe play the give and take game with the Dems but I don't agree with him using this issue as a Dem back scratcher. Now I don't neccesarily care about the ban on assult weapons(since they don't serve much of a real use for hunting) but it is a matter of principle. The longer that bill is in effect the bolder the gun-grabbers will get. 5 years from now they'll be screaming "we need stricter laws....we've had assult weapon bans for 10+ years and people still get killed by guns so we need to take them all away". The day they(the gov't) come knocking on my door to round up guns, is a day that a lot of people's lives will end - literally and figuratively.

ANY gun bans is a step in the wrong direction and Bush is going to loose alot of support if he continues to pander to the left like this.

I don't own any guns at the moment but if there was ever real legislation in the works to ban all guns, I'd be stocking up if you know what I mean

CkG

 

[HappyGamer2]

well I have semi-auto ban weapons, which are still legal in my state, and they make good deer hunting guns, which I use them for.

old man Bush was worse than slick willy,when it came to gun control, he even dropped out of The NRA

http://www.citizensofamerica.org/closing.htm

 

[BarneyFife]

Why would anyone need an assault weapon? Those guns are made for killing people, not hunting.

 

[HappyGamer2]

they make good deer guns, what's the difference between them and regular semi-auto guns? the answer is not much besides looks/appearence

most assualt weapons are lower power, making them less deadly that's why I only use them for short range hunting, I use my browning 7mm mag for longer ranges

 

[HappyGamer2]

Silence falls from the right wing flag wavers, only one has enough Manhood to respond.

your either with us or against us, there is no middle ground
this applies to gun control also

 

[Tripleshot]

Originally posted by: HappyGamer2
Silence falls from the right wing flag wavers, only one has enough Manhood to respond.

your either with us or against us, there is no middle ground
this applies to gun control also

And the silence is deafening, isn't it?

 

[shiner]

Story seems to be much ado about nothing to me. So the ban will continue, big whoop. I'm a gun owner and probably one of the most pro gun people you will find. I own several firearms, rifles, shotguns, handguns, etc...l, have a concealed carry license, hunt, etc, etc, etc...and this ban effects me exactly zippo. Hell I'd rather have my .30-06 any day instead of an AK or something like it. It's also not like this is new legislation, it's just letting existing legislation continue to exist. What's the big deal? The true danger are the wackos on the far left who will do just about anything to get rid of all guns. That is the only danger in letting this legislation live. If the nutjobs on the extreme of the anti-gun movement can find a way to expand what is considered an "assault rifle" and try to go after all sorts of rifles....THEN there will be trouble.

Now seriously...all the people saying they wouldn't vote for President Bush over this. Who are they going to vote for? Edwards, Gephardt, etc.. if they get the nomination. Yeah riiiiiiiight. I voted for Bush the first time and I will again.

 

[junkyardDawg]

IMO the 2nd amendment, as intended by the authors of the bill of rights, was rendered irrelevent by the civil war

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: junkyardDawg
IMO the 2nd amendment, as intended by the authors of the bill of rights, was rendered irrelevent by the civil war

Then you don't understand the 2nd Amendment.

 

[junkyardDawg]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: junkyardDawg
IMO the 2nd amendment, as intended by the authors of the bill of rights, was rendered irrelevent by the civil war

Then you don't understand the 2nd Amendment.

I read it as a states check on the federal authority

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Why would anyone need an assault weapon? Those guns are made for killing people, not hunting.

Dont worry about a time when the goverment gets to overbearing and you need protection from the goverment itself? I know lots of liberals have been complaining about Ashcroft.

 

[Looney]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Why would anyone need an assault weapon? Those guns are made for killing people, not hunting.

Why does everything have to be practical? Why do some people like to mod their cars? Why do some people collect stamps? Why do some people take dance lessons? Maybe they enjoy it?

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Why would anyone need an assault weapon? Those guns are made for killing people, not hunting.

Dont worry about a time when the goverment gets to overbearing and you need protection from the goverment itself? I know lots of liberals have been complaining about Ashcroft.

Are you going to take on the government with your machine gun? Get real. That argument is irrelevant.

 

[BarneyFife]

Originally posted by: Moralpanic

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Why would anyone need an assault weapon? Those guns are made for killing people, not hunting.

Why does everything have to be practical? Why do some people like to mod their cars? Why do some people collect stamps? Why do some people take dance lessons? Maybe they enjoy it?

I'll repeat it again. Assault weapons are made to assault people. You have no business having one. The last thing I need is for one of you nut bags to go nuts with it on a crowd of people. At least with a rifle you won't be able to get many shots off. If you want to have an assault weapon, go join the army.

 

[HappyGamer2]

hey barney, you should vote for Bush now, since he is a socialist.
Barney you don't know much about guns, are you a city slicker?
Barney, This post is to make the right wing Bush lovers wake up, not turn left wingers into bush lovers.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: BarneyFife

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Why would anyone need an assault weapon? Those guns are made for killing people, not hunting.

Dont worry about a time when the goverment gets to overbearing and you need protection from the goverment itself? I know lots of liberals have been complaining about Ashcroft.

Are you going to take on the government with your machine gun? Get real. That argument is irrelevant.

I'll take your first statement first. Guess which cartridge is used in the highest percentage of gun homocides in america. Its not the 45, its not the 9mm, 38 Special, 357 Mag, oh no, its the 22LR. Oh no, lets ban those too!

Lets look at the general qualifications for an assault rifle, since your second post shows you have no idea. As defined by most legislation, an assault rifle is:
-black (wood stock with same capability is exempt from the bans in many cases)
-often defined as having a bayonet lug. When is the last time you heard of an inner-city bayoneting? Never? Yeah, me too
-Large magazine capacity. Oh no, my uncle has a 25 round magazine for his Ruger 22, I guess he is going to use it for a killing spree any day now, couldnt be that he uses it for target practice. He also has an AR-15 with a total of 14 30 round magazines. You'd think that since it has no other use than killing people and is not for hunting, he'd have killed a lot of people with it by now. He hasnt shot anyone with it yet. There are three deer (two of which he has mounted) that my uncle has killed in the 4 years. You should tell them no one hunts with an AR-15. They'd disagree with you, seeing as he used his AR-15 to kill them.

As to why I would need an assault rifle, it doesnt matter. I might use it for hunting, self defense, or to dance naked in front of. I'm not going around trying to restrict your 1st amendment right. I'm not advocating the restriction of your right to free speech. Please do not try to take away my constitutional rights.

As for your second statement, america was founded by a bunch of guys who took their rifles out to war. Sure, they were muskets and muzzle-loading rifles, but thats about all the British had, too. I'm not one of those people running around in Montana with my own personal vendetta against the federal government, but if the time came and the US had another revolution, I have no doubt an armed citizenry would win in the end.

 

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