Bush confident budget can handle Katrina recovery

[azazyel]

Originally posted by: Engineer

You don't think that the true conservative base and the Dems. for that matter will destroy them on the issue of the deficit?

If spending will never be cut, then the US is doomed for economic collapse under rising budget deficits.

don't feed the troll.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: NoSmirk

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: NoSmirk
What would be great is if Bush was running for re-election, and he actually RAISED taxes like people suggested here.. How fast do you think the democratic party would jump on them just like they did Bush Sr?

As far as the being the 'Cut taxes and increase spending' party, thats better to me than the 'raise taxes and increase taxes' party. Its amazing when the Republicans WERE the big cut spending party how much the democrats played the 'Our seniors will be eating dog food' card.. Now that the Republicans are spending money, they blame them for that too! Well, which is it?!

Read my lips we need to raise taxes to pay the bills. If you can't live on what you make then you need to cut back or get a rasie.

Think about what you just said. You told me to cut back or get a raise. Why aren't you asking the same of the government? ITS MY MONEY NOT THEIRS OR YOURS. I'm deciding NOT to give the government a 'raise'.. so CUT BACK. If you think you are not paying enough, then send more in!

LOL, pay your share just like the rest of us have to do and I am asking the same of the goverment. I'm tired of the crap this administration and Republican controlled congress is trying to pull. They think that they can spend money like it grows on trees and never rasise the taxes?? They're either idiots or crooks then, take your pick.

 

[Jhhnn]

So long as Repubs can continue to borrow, there will be no spending cuts. So long as they can sell the public on the idea that we "need" a huge military to defend ourselves against trumped up semi-imaginary enemies, there will be no cuts, except for those at the bottom of the economic foodchain. So long as they can maintain the illusion that trickle down is anything but trickle up, there will be no spending cuts, no tax increases, just more borrowing.

They'll force a fiscal crisis, quite by intention, at which point taxes will go up, radically, even as services are sharply curtailed. Well, unless you're extremely wealthy, in which case you'll own the govt, and all that entails... We're witnessing an attempted financial coup, the most profound transfer of wealth and power into the hands of a very few that has ever been conceptualized. The bankrupting of Argentina, Thailand, Korea, Brazil and several others was just a warmup for the big score- the USA.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
So long as Repubs can continue to borrow, there will be no spending cuts. So long as they can sell the public on the idea that we "need" a huge military to defend ourselves against trumped up semi-imaginary enemies, there will be no cuts, except for those at the bottom of the economic foodchain. So long as they can maintain the illusion that trickle down is anything but trickle up, there will be no spending cuts, no tax increases, just more borrowing.

They'll force a fiscal crisis, quite by intention, at which point taxes will go up, radically, even as services are sharply curtailed. Well, unless you're extremely wealthy, in which case you'll own the govt, and all that entails... We're witnessing an attempted financial coup, the most profound transfer of wealth and power into the hands of a very few that has ever been conceptualized. The bankrupting of Argentina, Thailand, Korea, Brazil and several others was just a warmup for the big score- the USA.

Ouch!

 

[luigi1]

I can't imagine what fiscal conseritaves are thinking tonight. I have to beleave that ol lonsome george is tearing his power base to shreads. This has to be an opprunity for the oppisition. And yes, I agree with this as far as I can see anyway. We need to rebuild this region as quickly as we can. The cost of not doing so is greater than the cost of doing so. But this is the kinda thing that a fiscal conserveative hates. Its a black hole for money.
Yes there are misspellings here, and I'm sorry. But if you can see past it to see what I'm trying to say I thank you.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: luigi1
I can't imagine what fiscal conseritaves are thinking tonight.

we're too busy crying to post 😉

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: luigi1
I can't imagine what fiscal conseritaves are thinking tonight.

we're too busy crying to post 😉

🙁

The right side of the graph will only continue to steepen.....

 

[conjur]

"Read my lips."



Like father...like idiot son.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Fine don't raise taxes, how about not fcking cutting them more? These people have no concept of sacrafice. They won't do it for war, they won't do it for rebuilding. The rich needs the tax cuts more than the country needs to pay the bills.

How about we divert 50% of the Social Security taxes out of premiums and to the hurricane victims?

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Todd33
Fine don't raise taxes, how about not fcking cutting them more? These people have no concept of sacrafice. They won't do it for war, they won't do it for rebuilding. The rich needs the tax cuts more than the country needs to pay the bills.

How about we divert 50% of the Social Security taxes out of premiums and to the hurricane victims?

How would that be any different than borrowing? That would be several hundred billion less that the government has to spend. If they aren't going to cut spending, they would be borrowing to replace it. Not a good argument....just posting that crap because you don't like SS.

Oh, and less we forget that SS actually provides it's own $125 billion surplus each year currently, which without the government deficit would "look" worse. It's already bad enough as it is.

I notice you never ask for a cut in spending. You attack SS, etc. but never look for a cut in pork spending, pet projects, etc.

 

[GTaudiophile]

May I turn everyone's attention to CNN's quick vote? (Scroll down the page at CNN.com.)

Q: Do you think the government should raise taxes to pay for rebuilding New Orleans and other parts of the Gulf Coast?

Yes: 28% or 37069 votes
No: 72% or 94905 votes

(As of 11:23 PM EST.)

Just goes to show, that when Libs can vote in secet at their favorite bias news source, they side with the opposition when it comes to taxes. Then after they vote at CNN, they jump out of their Congressional offices, find a news camera, and blame Bush for not raising taxes.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Todd33
Fine don't raise taxes, how about not fcking cutting them more? These people have no concept of sacrafice. They won't do it for war, they won't do it for rebuilding. The rich needs the tax cuts more than the country needs to pay the bills.

How about we divert 50% of the Social Security taxes out of premiums and to the hurricane victims?

Why not permanetly reinstate the death tax to fund SS?? It seems like a rather fitting use for the money to me. We could even up the percentage and lower the exemption.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile

Just goes to show, that when Libs can vote in secet at their favorite bias news source, they side with the opposition when it comes to taxes. Then after they vote at CNN, they jump out of their Congressional offices, find a news camera, and blame Bush for not raising taxes.

how does CNN have a liberal bias?

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
May I turn everyone's attention to CNN's quick vote? (Scroll down the page at CNN.com.)

Q: Do you think the government should raise taxes to pay for rebuilding New Orleans and other parts of the Gulf Coast?

Yes: 28% or 37069 votes
No: 72% or 94905 votes

(As of 11:23 PM EST.)

Just goes to show, that when Libs can vote in secet at their favorite bias news source, they side with the opposition when it comes to taxes. Then after they vote at CNN, they jump out of their Congressional offices, find a news camera, and blame Bush for not raising taxes.

Well, ask the american people if they want their taxes rasied and they'll say no. Ask them if they want to raise taxes for the wealthy and you'll get a different answer. Ask them if they want to cut other programs to pay for rebuilding NO and they won't want to do that either.

The fact remains that the deficit causes inflation, inflation is a hidden tax, and it's a regressive tax at that.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Engineer
I notice you never ask for a cut in spending. You attack SS, etc. but never look for a cut in pork spending, pet projects, etc.

Social security IS a pet project. A monstrous one.

Why not permanetly reinstate the death tax to fund SS?? It seems like a rather fitting use for the money to me. We could even up the percentage and lower the exemption.

Because its not the responsibility of the rich to fund your lazy ass retirement.

If you want a death tax, lower the exemption to $0, tax it as income, and put it into the general fund.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Well, ask the american people if they want their taxes rasied and they'll say no. Ask them if they want to raise taxes for the wealthy and you'll get a different answer. Ask them if they want to cut other programs to pay for rebuilding NO and they won't want to do that either.

The fact remains that the deficit causes inflation, inflation is a hidden tax, and it's a regressive tax at that.

Don't tax me. Tax that guy behind the tree!

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Well, ask the american people if they want their taxes rasied and they'll say no. Ask them if they want to raise taxes for the wealthy and you'll get a different answer. Ask them if they want to cut other programs to pay for rebuilding NO and they won't want to do that either.

The fact remains that the deficit causes inflation, inflation is a hidden tax, and it's a regressive tax at that.

Don't tax me. Tax that guy behind the tree!

If he's not paying attention, he could be in trouble.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Engineer
I notice you never ask for a cut in spending. You attack SS, etc. but never look for a cut in pork spending, pet projects, etc.

Social security IS a pet project. A monstrous one.

Why not permanetly reinstate the death tax to fund SS?? It seems like a rather fitting use for the money to me. We could even up the percentage and lower the exemption.

Because its not the responsibility of the rich to fund your lazy ass retirement.

If you want a death tax, lower the exemption to $0, tax it as income, and put it into the general fund.

Don't tax me, don't tax thee, tax the guy behind the tree. I think the idea of using the death tax to help fund SS is a good one. Let everyone start in this competitive society that is your great ideal with a level playing field. I think it's an idea that the majority of America would support too. It's just a matter of finding the right level of exemption for the maximum level of support.

By the way, quit tryin to dis SS just to fund your lazy ass retirement. 😛

 

[Taggart]

Let's not raise income taxes at all. In fact, let's get rid of them all together and have a national consumption tax.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: Jhhnn
So long as Repubs can continue to borrow, there will be no spending cuts. So long as they can sell the public on the idea that we "need" a huge military to defend ourselves against trumped up semi-imaginary enemies, there will be no cuts, except for those at the bottom of the economic foodchain. So long as they can maintain the illusion that trickle down is anything but trickle up, there will be no spending cuts, no tax increases, just more borrowing.

They'll force a fiscal crisis, quite by intention, at which point taxes will go up, radically, even as services are sharply curtailed. Well, unless you're extremely wealthy, in which case you'll own the govt, and all that entails... We're witnessing an attempted financial coup, the most profound transfer of wealth and power into the hands of a very few that has ever been conceptualized. The bankrupting of Argentina, Thailand, Korea, Brazil and several others was just a warmup for the big score- the USA.

:thumbsup: Someone who realizes what is going on. While I feel in my heart that the other side realizes this, too, they simply don't care or pretend not to believe it. The money is going to come from somewhere and it will come from cutting Medicare, Medicaid, Welfare, and any other program the benefits the less fotunate. The president would score major points in my book if he simply repealed the tax cut that the rich got.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Todd33
Fine don't raise taxes, how about not fcking cutting them more? These people have no concept of sacrafice. They won't do it for war, they won't do it for rebuilding. The rich needs the tax cuts more than the country needs to pay the bills.

How about we divert 50% of the Social Security taxes out of premiums and to the hurricane victims?

How about no.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
May I turn everyone's attention to CNN's quick vote? (Scroll down the page at CNN.com.)

Q: Do you think the government should raise taxes to pay for rebuilding New Orleans and other parts of the Gulf Coast?

Yes: 28% or 37069 votes
No: 72% or 94905 votes

(As of 11:23 PM EST.)

Just goes to show, that when Libs can vote in secet at their favorite bias news source, they side with the opposition when it comes to taxes. Then after they vote at CNN, they jump out of their Congressional offices, find a news camera, and blame Bush for not raising taxes.

Where is the poll that asks if Americans think Bush should repeal the tax cuts he gave to his rich buddies?

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Don't tax me, don't tax thee, tax the guy behind the tree. I think the idea of using the death tax to help fund SS is a good one. Let everyone start in this competitive society that is your great ideal with a level playing field. I think it's an idea that the majority of America would support too. It's just a matter of finding the right level of exemption for the maximum level of support.

By the way, quit tryin to dis SS just to fund your lazy ass retirement. 😛

The majority of Americans support traditional marraige as well, but you want that overruled.

Thankfully we protect the rights of the wealthy. Or we do somewhat, considering trillions of entitlement socialist payments and 90% marginal taxrates have robbed them dry. The President is a great man for partially equalizing the picture.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: NoSmirk

Originally posted by: Todd33
Fine don't raise taxes, how about not fcking cutting them more? These people have no concept of sacrafice. They won't do it for war, they won't do it for rebuilding. The rich needs the tax cuts more than the country needs to pay the bills.

How about speaking for YOURSELF. If you want to send in more taxes then by all means do so. I for one, am NOT rich, my wife and I get absolutely SOAKED in taxes because we are married with no children. CUT taxes Mr. Bush.. CUT THEM A LOT.. People like Todd can send you extra money because he is apparently just SO happy with paying them. Keep you hands off MY money.. if you want to pay more, then do so.

It's clear to me you don't love America 😉

I never said raise taxes Einstein, I said don't cut them more. BTW none of Bush's tax cuts helped you much, so if you don't mind the top 2% getting more money while the government goes broke, then you should rethink your prioities and tyour commitment to the U.S. of A.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Todd33
Fine don't raise taxes, how about not fcking cutting them more? These people have no concept of sacrafice. They won't do it for war, they won't do it for rebuilding. The rich needs the tax cuts more than the country needs to pay the bills.

How about we divert 50% of the Social Security taxes out of premiums and to the hurricane victims?

You do know they spend that money on the general budget right? It's not locked away for safe keeping, hence all this BS about SS going bankrupt. Nevermind the fact what you suggested makes no sense. What does SS have to do with the rebuilding? Maybe we should pull out of Iraq and cancel all of Haliburton's contracts? I don't recall the Iraqi's paying into the "Free Iraq Freedom Fund" for 50 years like baby boomers did in SS.