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Bush & Co knew that the mobile biological weapons claim was bogus?

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Former CIA director used Pentagon ties to introduce Iraqi defector

By Jonathan S. Landay and Warren P. Strobel

Knight Ridder Newspapers

WASHINGTON - A former CIA director who advocated war against Saddam Hussein helped arrange the debriefing of an Iraqi defector who falsely claimed that Iraq had biological-warfare laboratories disguised as yogurt and milk trucks.

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The allegation was one of the most dramatic made by Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Colin Powell and other senior administration officials.

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However, further intelligence assessments in April, May and July 2002 questioned his credibility - including a "fabricator notice" issued by the DIA. Nevertheless, Harith's claim was included in an October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate and cited by Bush in his January 2003 State of the Union message.

There's no indication in the Senate Intelligence Committee report why Bush and other top administration officials used Harith's information after it was found by intelligence professionals to be bogus.
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So these guys knew that a known liar was feeding them some story about mobile labs?

Oh yeah. I forgot, Bush needed to get as much support as he could. If that meant using this guys story, so be it.
 
The military industrial complex, who was also responsible for the murder of jack Kennedy to get us into Vietnam, also rallied the united states around an attack on Iraq by creating false data... which is a minimal sort of action in comparison to the attacks of 9/11 the orchestrated.

Both republicans and democrats are owned by this complex and no matter who you vote for from the two parties your perpetuating this situation.

Please, vote for any third party you feel closely reflects what you think, but if you believe in the governmental lies brining us into war don?t buy the lies and think that democrats or republicans can fix the system that exists to perpetuate their power.
 
It's time for some impeachment processes to begin.


Knight-Ridder is reporting this?? WOW.

They're quite the right-wing news source, too.
 
By using his Pentagon contacts, Woolsey provided a direct pipeline to the government for Harith's information that bypassed the CIA, which for years had been highly distrustful of the exile group that produced Harith.

The Senate Intelligence Committee didn't address that issue last week in its 511-page report on Iraq intelligence.
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The Senate Intelligence Committee assessed the Harith case and found that intelligence analysts thought his claim was crucial in appearing to corroborate allegations by another defector, code-named Curve Ball, the main source of claims that Iraq had developed mobile biological-weapons facilities to deceive U.N. weapons inspectors.
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We all know how credible Curve Ball was. :roll:

Woolsey is an influential Washington insider who's on the Defense Policy Board, a Pentagon advisory group. He served as CIA director from 1993 to 1995 and has close ties to top administration officials by virtue of stints in senior defense and diplomatic positions since the 1970s.

He's also close to the Iraqi National Congress, the former emigre group led by Ahmad Chalabi, whom U.S. intelligence agencies now suspect of passing highly classified American secrets to Iran. Chalabi vehemently denies the charge.

American intelligence agencies have determined that information on Iraqi weapons from defectors produced by the INC's Information Collection Program, a multimillion-dollar U.S.-funded effort to gather intelligence on Iraq, was marginal at best, and sometimes fabricated or exaggerated. Intelligence officials also think that the INC security official who handled the defectors was an Iranian agent.

In 2000, Woolsey served briefly as a corporate officer for the INC unit that handled U.S. funding, the Iraqi National Congress Support Foundation. He and his former law firm, Shea and Gardner, did pro bono work for the INC and Iraqi exiles.
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Woolsey denied in a brief exchange with a Knight Ridder reporter July 1 that he brought Harith to the Defense Department's attention. He declined to respond to multiple efforts to contact him this week after Knight Ridder learned new details of the Harith case.
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Woolsey was among the most outspoken advocates outside of government for invading Iraq.
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Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
The military industrial complex, who was also responsible for the murder of jack Kennedy to get us into Vietnam, also rallied the united states around an attack on Iraq by creating false data... which is a minimal sort of action in comparison to the attacks of 9/11 the orchestrated.

Both republicans and democrats are owned by this complex and no matter who you vote for from the two parties your perpetuating this situation.

Please, vote for any third party you feel closely reflects what you think, but if you believe in the governmental lies brining us into war don?t buy the lies and think that democrats or republicans can fix the system that exists to perpetuate their power.
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Well said.
 
If you've read the book "Plan of Attack" by Jim Woodward, you could see that Bush was desperately trying to find reasons to go into Iraq and the military was hesitant to do anything.
 
The Admin knew all their claims were bogus, or wishful thinking at best. Well, I'd probably go so far as to grant them "unsubstantiated remote possibility" status.

It was all about "Find Me A Way", and exploitative fearmongering and false attribution in the wake of 9/11. Not that any of the victims of that FUD attack will ever notice or acknowledge that they were chumped...
 
And where's that "liberal media" with this news? The only big-name site I see to be carrying this is the San Jose Mercury News.
 
Originally posted by: conjur
And where's that "liberal media" with this news? The only big-name site I see to be carrying this is the San Jose Mercury News.
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Plotting against Bush on some other scandal? There are a few to choose between nowadays.

Honestly, how some people can just ignore these things i will never undersatand.
 
The military industrial complex, who was also responsible for the murder of jack Kennedy to get us into Vietnam, also rallied the united states around an attack on Iraq by creating false data... which is a minimal sort of action in comparison to the attacks of 9/11 the orchestrated.
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Nice conspiracy theory - nice enough to make me think you are an absolute black helicopter seeing moron.







I did not see any portion of the article that explicitely says Bush knew the info was bogus. It says that the DIA issued a warning, but that is under the assumption that they used a single source - which I doubt. It seems to me, if anything, this is a case of the media jumping to conclusions - a lot like perhaps the Africa/Iraq connection and the Iraq/Al Queda connection which have been since proven.

In other words, I do not see anything substantial here, nor do I see evidence that Bush knew.
 
hard to belive they knew it was false, more possible that they didnt question the intel because the blived what they wanted to belive
 
The mobile biological weapons labs, specially on the back of trucks don't make any sense to anyone who has ever been in a lab (big bump and there's smallpox all over!)

From the first day I thought this was (a prank?) made up by someone that watched the X-files.
 
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
The Admin knew all their claims were bogus, or wishful thinking at best. Well, I'd probably go so far as to grant them "unsubstantiated remote possibility" status.

It was all about "Find Me A Way", and exploitative fearmongering and false attribution in the wake of 9/11. Not that any of the victims of that FUD attack will ever notice or acknowledge that they were chumped...
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Two words Jhhnn: Plausible deniability.
 
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