• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Bush Can't Even Take Responsibility For His Fall

MonstaThrilla

Golden Member
Ripped from the DailyKos:

More Bush lies?
by kos
Sun May 23rd, 2004 at 20:18:22 EDT

Here's the official story line from Crawford:
President Bush took a spill during a Saturday afternoon bike ride on his ranch, suffering bruises and cuts that were visible later on his face just two days before he was to deliver a major prime-time speech on his Iraq policy.

The president was nearing the end of a 17-mile ride on his mountain bike, accompanied by a Secret Service agent, a military aide and his personal physician, Richard Tubb, who treated him at the scene, said White House spokesman Trent Duffy.

"It's been raining a lot and the topsoil is loose," Duffy said. "You know this president. He likes to go all-out. Suffice it to say he wasn't whistling show tunes."

So it's been raining a lot in Crawford, we are told. So here's the recent precipitation levels from Crawford:

May 22: 0"
May 21: 0"
May 20: 0"
May 19: 0"
May 18: 0"
May 17: 0"
May 16: 0"
May 15: 0"
May 14: 0.03"
May 13: 2.79"
May 12: 0"
May 11: 0.15"
May 10: 0"
May 9: 0"

May 13th saw some serious rain, but other than some sprinkles on the 14th, Crawford saw nothing but sun. In the last week alone, the temperature was in the high 80s the entire time.

So rain on the 13th and (barely) 14th was blamed for a Bush fall on the 22nd. As everything else, it wasn't Bush's fault. Nothing is Bush's fault.
 
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Ripped from the DailyKos:

More Bush lies?
by kos
Sun May 23rd, 2004 at 20:18:22 EDT

Here's the official story line from Crawford:
President Bush took a spill during a Saturday afternoon bike ride on his ranch, suffering bruises and cuts that were visible later on his face just two days before he was to deliver a major prime-time speech on his Iraq policy.

The president was nearing the end of a 17-mile ride on his mountain bike, accompanied by a Secret Service agent, a military aide and his personal physician, Richard Tubb, who treated him at the scene, said White House spokesman Trent Duffy.

"It's been raining a lot and the topsoil is loose," Duffy said. "You know this president. He likes to go all-out. Suffice it to say he wasn't whistling show tunes."

So it's been raining a lot in Crawford, we are told. So here's the recent precipitation levels from Crawford:

May 22: 0"
May 21: 0"
May 20: 0"
May 19: 0"
May 18: 0"
May 17: 0"
May 16: 0"
May 15: 0"
May 14: 0.03"
May 13: 2.79"
May 12: 0"
May 11: 0.15"
May 10: 0"
May 9: 0"

May 13th saw some serious rain, but other than some sprinkles on the 14th, Crawford saw nothing but sun. In the last week alone, the temperature was in the high 80s the entire time.

So rain on the 13th and (barely) 14th was blamed for a Bush fall on the 22nd. As everything else, it wasn't Bush's fault. Nothing is Bush's fault.

There was some "sand" on the road. 😉
oh and REPOST This is the third thread on this bike incident. Does anyone truly think 3 threads on kerry's bike tumble would have been allowed?😉

CkG
 
It rained heavily a week ago, it doesn't seem that outrageous to me that could cause the soil to be loose. I'd rather ask someone who specializes in weather or ecology or something what they thought.
 
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
Ripped from the DailyKos:

More Bush lies?
by kos
Sun May 23rd, 2004 at 20:18:22 EDT

Here's the official story line from Crawford:
President Bush took a spill during a Saturday afternoon bike ride on his ranch, suffering bruises and cuts that were visible later on his face just two days before he was to deliver a major prime-time speech on his Iraq policy.

The president was nearing the end of a 17-mile ride on his mountain bike, accompanied by a Secret Service agent, a military aide and his personal physician, Richard Tubb, who treated him at the scene, said White House spokesman Trent Duffy.

"It's been raining a lot and the topsoil is loose," Duffy said. "You know this president. He likes to go all-out. Suffice it to say he wasn't whistling show tunes."

So it's been raining a lot in Crawford, we are told. So here's the recent precipitation levels from Crawford:

May 22: 0"
May 21: 0"
May 20: 0"
May 19: 0"
May 18: 0"
May 17: 0"
May 16: 0"
May 15: 0"
May 14: 0.03"
May 13: 2.79"
May 12: 0"
May 11: 0.15"
May 10: 0"
May 9: 0"

May 13th saw some serious rain, but other than some sprinkles on the 14th, Crawford saw nothing but sun. In the last week alone, the temperature was in the high 80s the entire time.

So rain on the 13th and (barely) 14th was blamed for a Bush fall on the 22nd. As everything else, it wasn't Bush's fault. Nothing is Bush's fault.

Go out there to take soil measurements and report back to us. We'll all be waiting anxiously for your findings.
 
So rain on the 13th and (barely) 14th was blamed for a Bush fall on the 22nd. As everything else, it wasn't Bush's fault. Nothing is Bush's fault.

Wow, now there's a winning campaign issue if I ever heard it. No way Kerry can lose now.
 
Originally posted by: glenn1
So rain on the 13th and (barely) 14th was blamed for a Bush fall on the 22nd. As everything else, it wasn't Bush's fault. Nothing is Bush's fault.

Wow, now there's a winning campaign issue if I ever heard it. No way Kerry can lose now.

How is that an issue?
 
Originally posted by: MonstaThrilla
As everything else, it wasn't Bush's fault. Nothing is Bush's fault.
In all seriousness, has GWBush ever accepted responsibility for anything negative? Ever? Anything at all?
 
Originally posted by: Helenihi
It rained heavily a week ago, it doesn't seem that outrageous to me that could cause the soil to be loose. I'd rather ask someone who specializes in weather or ecology or something what they thought.
Although it depends on the soil type but typically rain does not loosen . . . it tends to compact. Heavy rain in particular tends to compact the surface layers (assuming it doesn't wash them off). Although humankind has developed multiple means of aerating/agitating soil . . . Mother Nature does not . . . at least not on typical human time scales.

In all likelihood Bush just picked a bad line, grabbed too much front brake, or locked up the rear. It was late into his ride so due to waning energy he lost focus.

I think this belongs with the Kerry crap about his snowboarding. The only people that don't fall are FOS. Bush fell . . . big deal. You cannot blame Bush per se for the BS from his staff. Personally, I would have made up a better story . . .

Although his NORBA membership had expired, the President was still considered one of the Top 100 Cat 2 riders in west Texas. The President was on lead coming through this gnarly singletrack in a section with a wicked 6 foot gulley sandwiched between two switchbacks. The President had designed this trail himself so he knew the 20mph he was carrying wouldn't allow him to navigate the first switchback. Realizing the second switchback was only 15ft and about 25* off his current vector the President grabbed some small sprocket and accelerated into the 1st switchback berm. He launched his Lightspeed Niota Ti over 20ft . . . with a near perfect two point landing onto the trail . . . and then the dumbarse Secret Service agent hit him from behind.

It's a great story and just like the stockpiles of WMD in Iraq . . . you cannot prove it wasn't true.
 
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: Helenihi
It rained heavily a week ago, it doesn't seem that outrageous to me that could cause the soil to be loose. I'd rather ask someone who specializes in weather or ecology or something what they thought.
Although it depends on the soil type but typically rain does not loosen . . . it tends to compact. Heavy rain in particular tends to compact the surface layers (assuming it doesn't wash them off). Although humankind has developed multiple means of aerating/agitating soil . . . Mother Nature does not . . . at least not on typical human time scales.

In all likelihood Bush just picked a bad line, grabbed too much front brake, or locked up the rear. It was late into his ride so due to waning energy he lost focus.

I think this belongs with the Kerry crap about his snowboarding. The only people that don't fall are FOS. Bush fell . . . big deal. You cannot blame Bush per se for the BS from his staff.
Why not? I think that's the issue. No one cares he fell off his bike. The issue is the lie. This seems to be yet another example of a systemic problem in the Bush administration, the instinctive compulsion to lie as a first resort.
 
Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: Helenihi
It rained heavily a week ago, it doesn't seem that outrageous to me that could cause the soil to be loose. I'd rather ask someone who specializes in weather or ecology or something what they thought.
Although it depends on the soil type but typically rain does not loosen . . . it tends to compact. Heavy rain in particular tends to compact the surface layers (assuming it doesn't wash them off). Although humankind has developed multiple means of aerating/agitating soil . . . Mother Nature does not . . . at least not on typical human time scales.

In all likelihood Bush just picked a bad line, grabbed too much front brake, or locked up the rear. It was late into his ride so due to waning energy he lost focus.

I think this belongs with the Kerry crap about his snowboarding. The only people that don't fall are FOS. Bush fell . . . big deal. You cannot blame Bush per se for the BS from his staff.
Why not? I think that's the issue. No one cares he fell off his bike. The issue is the lie. This seems to be yet another example of a systemic problem in the Bush administration, the instinctive compulsion to lie as a first resort.
Well nobody here was actually there. Although it's unlikely it's possible Bush really did fall in loose topsoil that had been washed into a basin by the previous week's rainfall. They should have just said he fell . . . and when reporter asks how did it happen . . . I would respond, "well there's this thing called gravity . . . "
 
Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Originally posted by: Helenihi
It rained heavily a week ago, it doesn't seem that outrageous to me that could cause the soil to be loose. I'd rather ask someone who specializes in weather or ecology or something what they thought.
Although it depends on the soil type but typically rain does not loosen . . . it tends to compact. Heavy rain in particular tends to compact the surface layers (assuming it doesn't wash them off). Although humankind has developed multiple means of aerating/agitating soil . . . Mother Nature does not . . . at least not on typical human time scales.

Not really my area of specialty, but a plausible theory could go something like this:

Rain compacts top layer of soil which later hardens in the sun and separates from the soil underneath. You get a sort of thin clay-like layer going on top. Bike comes through and breaks it up, chunks of top layer break apart, destroying the surface the bike is going on.
 
Maybe he's just a jackass with no coordination? Or maybe his bike hates freedom? Maybe the evil mastermind pretzel vendor laid a death trap for him on the trail? I'd blame that before blaming the alleged "soil conditions" or whatever sorry excuse is being dreamt up.
 
Originally posted by: Helenihi


Not really my area of specialty, but a plausible theory could go something like this:

Rain compacts top layer of soil which later hardens in the sun and separates from the soil underneath. You get a sort of thin clay-like layer going on top. Bike comes through and breaks it up, chunks of top layer break apart, destroying the surface the bike is going on.

yup, dirt curls up like that all the time around here, when it rains and then is dried out.

17 miles on dirt paths is hard core.
 
But if Bush later jokes about the bike fall then the world will be outraged due to his lack of sensitivity towards others who have fallen off their bikes.
 
i haven't seen a quote anywhere by Bush about what happened, so i'm a litlle surprised to see someone claiming Bush "can't take responsibility.." This is just another liberal fabrication...Bush never said "I don't fall". I believe Sen. Kerry said that just before he fell down at least 6-7 times sking.

Can't take responsibility? Clinton TO THIS DAY has never admitted to having a sexual relationship in Lewinsky..
 
Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
i haven't seen a quote anywhere by Bush about what happened, so i'm a litlle surprised to see someone claiming Bush "can't take responsibility.." This is just another liberal fabrication...Bush never said "I don't fall". I believe Sen. Kerry said that just before he fell down at least 6-7 times sking.

Can't take responsibility? Clinton TO THIS DAY has never admitted to having a sexual relationship in Lewinsky..

You are right. I will not vote for Clinton either.

:roll:
 
Back
Top