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Genx87

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Most of the poly-sci professors are also dyed in the wool liberals.

Therefore if they are telling your want you want to hear; they have credibility.
They have a history of rewriting history to their viewpoint.
Young impressionable students are very succeptible to their type of brainwashing. :(

Yea, that should explain this:
"In our 2002 presidential rating, with a group of experts comparable to this current poll, President Bush ranked in the top half of all presidents,"

That's what a dyed in the wool liberal would want to see. I never liked dumbya, never will, nothing can change that. However, these experts suggested that he ranked in the top half of ALL presidents. Must be that liberal, tree-hugging slant.

Oh that proves it then lmao
Come on, you can't honestly tell me you are pleased with Bush. He's the Republicans Jimmy Carter without the humanity and intelligence.

My opinion of Bush has little to do with this poll, and how silly it is to pawn it off as anything worth discussing or taking serious, much less using it to prove a point.
Yeah I'd be disappointed and ashamed too if I were you.

Oh you got me
Nah more like he got you. Of course being a goiod soldier ya got to stick to your guns and support your party. That's why I don't think I'll ever belong to either major party again. I believe that neither of them represent my views or the views of the majority of Americans.


I am so happy for you, pat yourself on the back for me.


 
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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: zendari
Liberal professors don't like Bush? Who would have thought?

Didn't even read the article did ya trollie? What a complete waste of atoms you are.
Please show me where it said liberal professors? Please I want to know EXACTLY where it said liberal professors you little jack humper.

I'll help you since your beyond myopic:
SRI asked 744 history and political science professors at colleges and universities across the nation to rank George W. Bush on a common scale for ranking American presidents as developed by Arthur Schlesinger, Sr., more than half a century ago

COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES ACROSS THE NATION. I'll type it slowly for you this time.
across the nation, means a varied and wide selection. A good sample group for those of you who took statistics. But you'd rather pull this liberal crap instead of looking at the facts. Poor myopic zenny.
Your facist world is crashing around your jackboots and the only thing you have is a deficit. Correction, we all get to share that cake.

Being a national sample has nothing to do with the fairness of the poll when you consider the sample being polled in this case. It is widely known that academia is overwhelmingly left-leaning.

In every other poll of this nature questions are asked to determine the political leanings of the person being polled in an effort to gain an accurate sample of the population at large. (Ala CBS and their presidential job approval poll where only 23% of the sample was republican) I would imagine that didn't happen in this case.


Well it appears they've been doing this since 1982. And it looks as though they are somewhat of an authority. So, since you're unable to show where the political leanings of the polled, you're stating that they are mostly if not all liberal leaning is pure conjecture.
 
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Liberal bias in education
Liberal bias in the ivory tower
By Cathy Young | April 11, 2005

YET ANOTHER study has come out documenting what most conservatives consider to be blindingly obvious: the leftward tilt of the American professoriate. The latest report, by political scientist Stanley Rothman of Smith College, communications professor S. Robert Lichter of George Mason University, and Canadian polling expert Neil Nevitte, published in the online journal Forum, paints a stark picture of a politically skewed academy. Nearly three quarters of the professors in a 1999 survey of college faculty identified themselves as left/liberal, only 15 percent as right/conservative; 50 percent were Democrats and 11 percent Republicans.

A typical reaction to such studies from the left has been to shoot the messenger without denying the basic facts of the message.


 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
If the liberal bias is in education, where would the conservative bias be?

Tis a good question, there isnt one in the educational circles.
My guess the conservative bias is in the business world, you know, what many call the "real" world. Something many of these professors shat themselves when thinking about.

 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
If the liberal bias is in education, where would the conservative bias be?

Almost anything destructive or punitive in nature. They can't create so they are gravitated twards breaking down. Cops, military, whinney talk show hosts who talk about liberal world against them
 
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Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
If the liberal bias is in education, where would the conservative bias be?

Nice DUHversion there... But it has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
 
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Oh I get it. Educated = liberal. Dumbass white trash = republican. Sorry, didnt get it the first time. :p

Oh look he is throwing a fit, but we are the dumbasses.
Typically liberal in this context == worthless degree that forced them to hide from the real world in the world of education where all viewpoints are highly valued.

Fit? No, I let dumbya do that, dead-eye dickie too. My worthless degree and life experience got me my job. I guess living on my own for 20 years now doesn't qualify as real world.
I almost feel sorry for you. Almost.

I am very happy for you but you threw a fit like a child lol.


Keep telling yourself that gen, I threw a fit, I acted like a child, anything to keep your blinders on. I'm sure dead-eye dickie was a well behaved mature politician when he told someone to go fark themselves, or dumbya flipping off the camera when he was gov...
That's the level of maturity I strive for.

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
If the liberal bias is in education, where would the conservative bias be?

Nice DUHversion there... But it has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
So there's a bias. Do you actually think they are wrong? Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
 
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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
If the liberal bias is in education, where would the conservative bias be?

Tis a good question, there isnt one in the educational circles.
My guess the conservative bias is in the business world, you know, what many call the "real" world. Something many of these professors shat themselves when thinking about.

Right and the majority of these business folks got their education where? Oh right, college. Not all, but I am going to say the majority of them. I'm not in education, never a teacher, professor, or anything close. I've been in sales, been a bartender, now I work with computers, so I guess I don't qualify for your real world. Thank god.
 
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Originally posted by: Frackal


I like the fact that they said that this ship ain't gonna be turned around. So uplifting. Eh what do these liberal college educated people know anyway. Oh this is what they know..
SRI has offered expert opinion ranking of U.S. presidents since 1982.

Prof's ponder dumbya's future


WOW! 1982! lol BFD


How many companies do one thing so well they do it for a quarter of a century? Nice brush off. The WSJ looks to them for information, that liberal rag..
 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Most of the poly-sci professors are also dyed in the wool liberals.

Therefore if they are telling your want you want to hear; they have credibility.
They have a history of rewriting history to their viewpoint.
Young impressionable students are very succeptible to their type of brainwashing. :(


Nonsense.. I was a poli sci major in a major NY university and more of them were conservatives... by FAR... Stop with the nonsense generalizations.
 
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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
If the liberal bias is in education, where would the conservative bias be?

Nice DUHversion there... But it has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
So there's a bias. Do you actually think they are wrong? Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Who? The professors that think he's a failure or average or great? :p

I simply pointed out that in the poll that the OP is so happy about, the sample is SO slanted to the left that there isn't any useful information to be gleaned from it. They might as well have polled the DNC.
 
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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
If the liberal bias is in education, where would the conservative bias be?

Nice DUHversion there... But it has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

OK, back on topic, are they wrong? If so, how? Please explain from your real world experience how dumbya is not a failure or below average.
 
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Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
If the liberal bias is in education, where would the conservative bias be?

Nice DUHversion there... But it has nothing to do with the subject at hand.

OK, back on topic, are they wrong? If so, how? Please explain from your real world experience how dumbya is not a failure or below average.

Look one post up.

edit: Nevermind... I'll just C/P my answer here...

Who? The professors that think he's a failure or average or great?

I simply pointed out that in the poll that the OP is so happy about, the sample is SO slanted to the left that there isn't any useful information to be gleaned from it. They might as well have polled the DNC.
 
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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
If the liberal bias is in education, where would the conservative bias be?

Nice DUHversion there... But it has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
So there's a bias. Do you actually think they are wrong? Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Who? The professors that think he's a failure or average or great? :p

I simply pointed out that in the poll that the OP is so happy about, the sample is SO slanted to the left that there isn't any useful information to be gleaned from it. They might as well have polled the DNC.

You don't know who was polled or their political leanings, you just assuming because they are professors, they are liberal because you've been told all professors are liberals, evil dirty liberals.
Pathetic.
And now you've pulled an o'reilly and made it even more emphatic by putting in the upper case 'SO' in there to further drive home your assumed point that has no basis in fact. billy boy would be proud. gj.
 
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Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
If the liberal bias is in education, where would the conservative bias be?

Nice DUHversion there... But it has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
So there's a bias. Do you actually think they are wrong? Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Who? The professors that think he's a failure or average or great? :p

I simply pointed out that in the poll that the OP is so happy about, the sample is SO slanted to the left that there isn't any useful information to be gleaned from it. They might as well have polled the DNC.

You don't know who was polled or their political leanings, you just assuming because they are professors, they are liberal because you've been told all professors are liberals, evil dirty liberals.
Pathetic.
And now you've pulled an o'reilly and made it even more emphatic by putting in the upper case 'SO' in there to further drive home your assumed point that has no basis in fact. billy boy would be proud. gj.

It's a fact buddy... Professors are overwhelmingly liberal.
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
Most of the poly-sci professors are also dyed in the wool liberals.

Therefore if they are telling your want you want to hear; they have credibility.
They have a history of rewriting history to their viewpoint.
Young impressionable students are very succeptible to their type of brainwashing. :(


Or so says non-accredited right-wing punduits. :roll:

Education is bad, proffessors are evil, just move along.

Exactly Steep. Banal sound bites and slogans like EK and GEN just vomited - repeated ad nauseum - are the mainstays of rightwing political activism so they hate anyone educated enough to challage the "drumbeat" . They must be "liberal" oh noes.




As Colbert said "Reality has a blatent liberal slant, so who needs it?"
 

Engineer

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Over 60% of the general population thinks so too. Nothing new there! :laugh:

It's pretty funny that the apologist fanboys are tripping all over themselves in this thread! :laugh:

Just can't take the truth, I guess! *shrugs*
 

shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
If the liberal bias is in education, where would the conservative bias be?

Nice DUHversion there... But it has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
So there's a bias. Do you actually think they are wrong? Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Who? The professors that think he's a failure or average or great? :p

I simply pointed out that in the poll that the OP is so happy about, the sample is SO slanted to the left that there isn't any useful information to be gleaned from it. They might as well have polled the DNC.

You don't know who was polled or their political leanings, you just assuming because they are professors, they are liberal because you've been told all professors are liberals, evil dirty liberals.
Pathetic.
And now you've pulled an o'reilly and made it even more emphatic by putting in the upper case 'SO' in there to further drive home your assumed point that has no basis in fact. billy boy would be proud. gj.

It's a fact buddy... Professors are overwhelmingly liberal.



From your own source:

42.3 percent as ''liberal," 34.3 percent as ''middle of the road," 17.7 percent as ''conservative,"

That doesn;t show as overwhelmingly liberal... Additionally, someone that believes in women's rights could identify themselves as liberal... when they are really moderate, etc...
 
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Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
If the liberal bias is in education, where would the conservative bias be?

Nice DUHversion there... But it has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
So there's a bias. Do you actually think they are wrong? Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Who? The professors that think he's a failure or average or great? :p

I simply pointed out that in the poll that the OP is so happy about, the sample is SO slanted to the left that there isn't any useful information to be gleaned from it. They might as well have polled the DNC.

You don't know who was polled or their political leanings, you just assuming because they are professors, they are liberal because you've been told all professors are liberals, evil dirty liberals.
Pathetic.
And now you've pulled an o'reilly and made it even more emphatic by putting in the upper case 'SO' in there to further drive home your assumed point that has no basis in fact. billy boy would be proud. gj.

It's a fact buddy... Professors are overwhelmingly liberal.


Wow, you got me. I just wonder why the WSJ would look to a liberal bastion like SRI to get results from polls. Or why they are respected in their results. Must be only liberals that use them.
Keep telling yourself that, and then quietly, in a dark room, when noone is around you, look at this
 

sandorski

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Liberals = Educated
Conservatives = Uneducated

So say the Cons. Like Engi said, they be trippin.
 
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Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Originally posted by: Sheik Yerbouti
If the liberal bias is in education, where would the conservative bias be?

Nice DUHversion there... But it has nothing to do with the subject at hand.
So there's a bias. Do you actually think they are wrong? Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Who? The professors that think he's a failure or average or great? :p

I simply pointed out that in the poll that the OP is so happy about, the sample is SO slanted to the left that there isn't any useful information to be gleaned from it. They might as well have polled the DNC.

You don't know who was polled or their political leanings, you just assuming because they are professors, they are liberal because you've been told all professors are liberals, evil dirty liberals.
Pathetic.
And now you've pulled an o'reilly and made it even more emphatic by putting in the upper case 'SO' in there to further drive home your assumed point that has no basis in fact. billy boy would be proud. gj.

It's a fact buddy... Professors are overwhelmingly liberal.


Wow, you got me. I just wonder why the WSJ would look to a liberal bastion like SRI to get results from polls. Or why they are respected in their results. Must be only liberals that use them.
Keep telling yourself that, and then quietly, in a dark room, when noone is around you, look at this
Ok... So now you're trying to divert from the poll to the polling organization. Nice try. But again... off topic.
 

techs

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63 percent of the country thinks Bush is doing a bad job.
Nuff said.