Bush Admin goes into full-court CYA mode

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LunarRay

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Originally posted by: Bird222
Calling constitutional experts here:

I thought we couldn't have retroactive laws. Or is it just you can't make something illegal that someone has done in the past, but its ok to make something done in the past that was once illegal legal?

You can't make a law ex post facto. That is explicit in the Constitution... That is; create a law today that punishes one for an act that occurred at a time it was not a crime. It was intended to keep laws from being created to punish but seems to me it should be construed both ways..


 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: Genx87
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: zendari
The administration did the proper thing by complying with the Supreme Court at the time the ruling was made. Interrogation officials were quite proper in their actions beforehand so should not be reprimanded.



Does that include female interrogators doing strip teases in front of detaines and putting ketchup or fake blood on womens panties and rubbing it on them?

Waterboarding?

Human dog piles?

Making detainess masturbate?

Raping young male detainees?

Sodomy with glow sticks?

I agree completely proper and in perfect harmony with our values. :disgust:

Or how about the hot cold treatment?
Went to my cabin a few weeks ago, think my human rights were violated by mother nature when she was blaring heat down on me at 100 then a cold front moved through and hit me with 65 and rain. I felt so uncomfortable she should be brought up on charges.

this sounds a lot like cabin life . . .

[The detainee] was stripped naked, put in the mud and sprayed . . . with very cold hoses in February. At night it was very cold. . . . He was completely naked in the mud, you know. . . . [Then] he was taken out of the mud and put next to an air conditioner. It was extremely cold, freezing, and he was put back in the mud and sprayed. This happened all night. Everybody knew about it.

? An interrogator with the special military and CIA task force at Camp Nama, Baghdad, quoted in a new 53-page Human Rights Watch report, "No Blood, No Foul: Soldiers' Accounts of Detainee Abuse in Iraq From 2003-2005."
 

myocardia

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
The administration should take responsibility for their actions and not try end-runs around our country's laws. This effort has AG Gonzales's fingerprints all over it. I certainly hope Congress shoots this BS down.
Yeah, as if that's going to happen. The amendment(s) were written to protect members of the party that rules Washington, D.C. The only reason this administration doesn't ever tell the truth about anything they have done is because they don't have to tell the truth, they've got a Republican House and Senate backing every single thing they do.
 

Used Rugs

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This administration is the most inept and corrupt ever in the history of the states. They have blurred the line between religion and state. More money is handed out in the form of corporate welfare then welfare to the poor? Alot more!! Its sick. I will never vote Republican....
 

5to1baby1in5

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Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: Bird222
Calling constitutional experts here:

I thought we couldn't have retroactive laws. Or is it just you can't make something illegal that someone has done in the past, but its ok to make something done in the past that was once illegal legal?

I thought by now most people would realize that the Constitution is nothing more than a "historical document", no more relevant to today than the August PDB.

An here I thought it was just toilet paper for GWB's @ss.

Seems like every gain we have made towards a peacefull world society since the 1950's has been nullified in the last 6 years. See what happens when you put somebody that places no value on human life in the top job, and surround hin with two rooms full of yes-men.
 

Used Rugs

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Ken is alive and well. I bet he faked his death. The day before he was to enter his new home (jail), he died. Something fishy.