Blackjack200
Lifer
Strictly speaking, this is true. But it's impossible to obtain that licensing from the state, so it's effectively illegal.
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Burress cops a plea. Two years.
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Strictly speaking, this is true. But it's impossible to obtain that licensing from the state, so it's effectively illegal.
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
The law is pointless really it only hurts legal gun owners. Someone who illegaly acquired a weapon isn't going to care where he carries it. In this case burress legally purchased registered and was licensed to carry in about half the US states. We put legal gun owner in jail while effectively doing nothing to prevent illegal gun ownership and carrying.
Blackjack200
Lifer
More or Less effective? I would say that they are more dangerous in some situations. Also, I personally prefer to be in places that guns aren't allowed, when laws like this are enforced it means that I can go pretty much anywhere in NY and not have to worry that some loony is strapping.
AyashiKaibutsu
Diamond Member
He discharged a gun in a crowded nightclub. That he only injured himself is the bright side. Firing weapons irresponsibly within city limits (and in a crowded nightclub no less) deserves some punishment in my opinion. 404 gun laws run amuck not found. If he hurt someone else I'd say he'd deserve 5-10 years. 2 1/2 seems reasonable to me.
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
What? u joking?
Blackjack200
Lifer
? He carried a concealed weapon into an area where people have a reasonable expectation that others are not armed. He discharged his weapon putting everyone in the club at risk. I'd say that law did exactly what it was supposed to.
Poulsonator
Golden Member
Agree 100%. I don't get why this is even a debate or surprising. Burress broke some of NY's very stringent gun laws and should pay. Just like anyone else stupid enough to do that.
I find it amazing that Burress was supposedly licensed to carry in FL. He's supposedly passed the tests and knows how to handle and carry a gun. Yet he doesn't know the basic state-by-state rules, doesn't know how to properly carry it, and doesn't know how to properly handle it. Makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside thinking about how many dumbfuck licensed carriers there are out there.
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
he didn't hurt someone though(there are already laws in place for hurting people). he was wreckless yes. But no one was hurt. 90 days suspended after 45 and 300 hours community service. he would learn his lesson.
Blackjack200
Lifer
And it does, just not Burress. That's why he's in jail.
Not to say that all laws are good and should be there, but the above isn't really a valid argument. Otherwise, you could say, murders happen every day even though there are laws against murder. So why have laws against murder at all? If you don't like murder, pick another law. Many laws that we have get broken all the time even though it's illegal.
brandonbull
Diamond Member
I'm glad everything worked out for Plexiglass. Maybe in a few years he can become a defense attorney. He knows how to get 2 year plea deals. Plexiglass method for plea deals: Start with a 3 month deal and turn it into a 2 year plea deal.
Hindsight is 20/20
Hindsight is 20/20
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
murder vs. a victimless crime........hmmmmm no. I'm not arguing he didn't break the law. T The law he broke if any would have to be wreckless endangerment when he discharged the firearm in a club.. Not carrying a weapon. The punishment doesn't fit the crime in this case.
Victimless doesn't mean it's not a crime. Otherwise, I could shoot at Obama and miss by an inch and get 90 days? I think suicide is a crime too, at least if you fail to succeed. 🙂
Fair enough about disagreeing with the law. But the law is there and in place now. Until it gets repealed or changed, the punishment is what it should be. Not knowing the law isn't really a good excuse for breaking it. 90 days seems kind of lenient for reckless endangerment but I'm not a law expert by any means. Perhaps 2 years is too harsh. I'm not sure I could put a solid number on it.
Fair enough about disagreeing with the law. But the law is there and in place now. Until it gets repealed or changed, the punishment is what it should be. Not knowing the law isn't really a good excuse for breaking it. 90 days seems kind of lenient for reckless endangerment but I'm not a law expert by any means. Perhaps 2 years is too harsh. I'm not sure I could put a solid number on it.
Blackjack200
Lifer
Then drunk driving is also a victimless crime. You may perceive it as victimless, but it's an offense against society and no less of a crime than one where the vicitm is more obvious.
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
Do you think his debt to society is better paid behind bars or doing community service? Judging by his famous status I think he would do a world of good outside of prison rather in prison.
Blackjack200
Lifer
And what do you propose? Do we get rid of all gun laws? Automatic weapons carried at any age by any person in any place at any time?
My point is that the government will clearly have to draw the line somewhere. If you don't believe in some form of gun control you are an extremist.
IceBergSLiM
Lifer
People driving drunk don't intend to hurt others. plax didn't intend on hurting anyone. Drunk drivers dont goto jail for 2 years unless they are repeat offenders.
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