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Burning the Flag.

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WTF is with all the retards in this thread? TwoBills said nothing about being patriotic; he related a story about a ceremony that his family has had regarding how they dispose of old flags. He goes on to say that now that his current flag has seen better days, and how he will be following this same ceremony. I didn't see once where he was bragging about being patriotic, but I did see where he was relating a story about tradition.

WTF is wrong with that? Do you people like to ridicule tradition just for the sake of it? Does that make you cool? Do you feel superior now?

You really just sound like a bunch of spiteful tards that are jealous because you have nothing you can show respect for, especially yourselves.

The flag, to anyone who has any bit of self-respect, represents a symbol of the country and its people. That symbol means all of the people that represent the country; their ideals, their history, their hopes and their dreams. The biggest ideal being that of liberty for all. No one prays to the flag. Its a symbol of their country and their people, not their god; but the flag, as a symbol of what the country and its people are, and what they could be, should be treated with the respect you should show anyone. And as a show of respect to the country and its people, the country you were born in, live in, and many have died for, a tradition developed about the proper disposal of the flag in a respectful way.

I'm actually quite surprised that many countries do not seem to have this same respect for the symbol of their people and their country.

And btw, I'm no flag waver. I don't even live in the States anymore, but I have a least enough sense to know why a country's flag should be treated with respect.
 
Originally posted by: Bowmaster
Ummm... And that makes you a good American?
I don't know about that but it at least makes him respectful of his dead realatives and soldiers who have died in the name of this country?!? Thus the purpose of the post you moron, lol!
 
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I find it kinda odd that people think that respecting the flag but not their fellow countrymen is ok.
 
Originally posted by: Jigga
My idea of the proper disposal of an old flag involves lots of red, white and blue string bikinis for southern belles to wear at Myrtle Beach, but to each his own.

:beer:
 
When you properly dispose of or display the American Flag you are honoring those who died for this country, the ideals of this country and the freedoms we have as citizens of this country. IF you view the flag as a symbol of America and everything it is and what it took to make it what it is, you handle it with respect, not the cloth it's made of but what it represents. I think a good example was in the movie The Patriot, where his son is mending a tattered American Flag. Another guy says "it's a lost cause", yet he keep mending it. The reference was both to the flag and to the independent country they were fighting for.

Those who choose to "disrespect" (note the quotes, I can't think of a softer word) should not be scorned for doing so, at least it's not an Iraqi flag - right? However, those who do should think for a moment about what they have and what it took for them to have it. MAYBE taking the time to properly display or dispose of the American Flag will promote a bit of reflection for those who truly believed in this country. This country not the soil, not the government (we all can disagree at some point about government) but about the people who live here. Your neighbors, the A$$hat that just cut you off or the pretty woman you see on a street who actually smiled back. We are America (most of us here) the flag represents us, those damn liberals, hippies, conservatives, yuppies, whites, blacks, Asians, Hispanics. The flag represents us.
 
Originally posted by: Klixxer
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I find it kinda odd that people think that respecting the flag but not their fellow countrymen is ok.

I think you're more fundamentalist extremist than patriotic.
 
Originally posted by: Klixxer
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I find it kinda odd that people think that respecting the flag but not their fellow countrymen is ok.

That's kind of silly when the fellow countrymen are free of will, and with that will choose to be assholes.
Why should they command any sort of respect from me?
 
On the days following 9/11 literally every house on my block and every block around us had a flag off the front of their house. It was honestly beyond humbling to see.

I still fly the flag on my house nearly everyday... and so do many of my neighbors, sadly many of them leave it out, 24x7 rain sleet snow or shine and the flag(s) certainly look embarassing (I liked the comment about the car-flags... gimme a break).

Mine was out the other day while I was at work and the weather changed and it started to pour and hail... I actually felt bad it was out there. It should have been taken down, but obvioulsy I couldnt do so.

Im not saying its the flag itself that I worry about, its the pride I have in my country, the men and women that died defending it and still are defending it today...

It is the VERY least I can do to respect and care for the flag the SYMBOLIZES everything they fought and died for (and still fight today). Our country is not perfect...not by a long shot, but I still have pride in it
 
Originally posted by: CanOWorms
Originally posted by: Klixxer
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I find it kinda odd that people think that respecting the flag but not their fellow countrymen is ok.

I think you're more fundamentalist extremist than patriotic.


And i think you are a neo-nazi scumbag.
 
Originally posted by: Kiyup
Originally posted by: Klixxer
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I find it kinda odd that people think that respecting the flag but not their fellow countrymen is ok.

That's kind of silly when the fellow countrymen are free of will, and with that will choose to be assholes.
Why should they command any sort of respect from me?

Until you realize that your country IS your fellow countrymen, then i cannot answer that for you.

It is not a piece of cloth, it is the actions of the people who live within it, not proud with their actions? Then you are not proud over your country either.

A country is an extension of the people who live in it, that is it and that is all.

I know how important patriotism are for some, for me it isn't, a just cause no matter nation and i will do what i can for it.

However, when someone extremely uninformed tries to make a point about my country or other countries, i might disagree and try to set him right, for some (like canoworms, rabidwhatever and Format C🙂, that means that i am a Nazist, even though i am a semite and jewish by heritage.
 
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Kiyup
Originally posted by: Klixxer
*bookmarking this thread for use next time canoworms or rabidwhatever rags on freegeeks or my "patriotism"*

I find it kinda odd that people think that respecting the flag but not their fellow countrymen is ok.

That's kind of silly when the fellow countrymen are free of will, and with that will choose to be assholes.
Why should they command any sort of respect from me?

Until you realize that your country IS your fellow countrymen, then i cannot answer that for you.

It is not a piece of cloth, it is the actions of the people who live within it, not proud with their actions? Then you are not proud over your country either.

A country is an extension of the people who live in it, that is it and that is all.

I know how important patriotism are for some, for me it isn't, a just cause no matter nation and i will do what i can for it.

However, when someone extremely uninformed tries to make a point about my country or other countries, i might disagree and try to set him right, for some (like canoworms, rabidwhatever and Format C🙂, that means that i am a Nazist, even though i am a semite and jewish by heritage.

Nazism isn't defined by Antisemitism but by:

n.

The ideology and practice of the Nazis, especially the policy of racist nationalism, national expansion, and state control of the economy.

source: dictionary.com
 
Originally posted by: Legendary
Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: Kiyup
Originally posted by: Klixxer
*bookmarking this thread for use next time canoworms or rabidwhatever rags on freegeeks or my "patriotism"*

I find it kinda odd that people think that respecting the flag but not their fellow countrymen is ok.

That's kind of silly when the fellow countrymen are free of will, and with that will choose to be assholes.
Why should they command any sort of respect from me?

Until you realize that your country IS your fellow countrymen, then i cannot answer that for you.

It is not a piece of cloth, it is the actions of the people who live within it, not proud with their actions? Then you are not proud over your country either.

A country is an extension of the people who live in it, that is it and that is all.

I know how important patriotism are for some, for me it isn't, a just cause no matter nation and i will do what i can for it.

However, when someone extremely uninformed tries to make a point about my country or other countries, i might disagree and try to set him right, for some (like canoworms, rabidwhatever and Format C🙂, that means that i am a Nazist, even though i am a semite and jewish by heritage.

Nazism isn't defined by Antisemitism but by:

n.

The ideology and practice of the Nazis, especially the policy of racist nationalism, national expansion, and state control of the economy.

source: dictionary.com

The point was that i had enough of that in previous generations, i know the story, i know what happened, my grandparents fled the nazis.

If you are saying that Nazism and the holocaust have nothing to do with one another, i have no answer to that.

I am no racist, but i don't make a big deal out of nothing either, i don't read a few articles and make my mind up.

I haven't seen ONE positive article posted about europe in here, not for the year i lurked and not for the month i have posted, strange? No, of course not, we are Nazis, we are racists, we are whatever you can think up to call us.
 
Originally posted by: KlixxerI haven't seen ONE positive article posted about europe in here, not for the year i lurked and not for the month i have posted, strange? No, of course not, we are Nazis, we are racists, we are whatever you can think up to call us.
That's because most of the people here consider Europe a socialist continent, whereas America is the great bastion of freedom, where men can still be men and the government isn't running the show. Poor Europeans!

Europe is of course much like America and vice versa. I personally wouild rather crap on the middle east 🙂
 
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: KlixxerI haven't seen ONE positive article posted about europe in here, not for the year i lurked and not for the month i have posted, strange? No, of course not, we are Nazis, we are racists, we are whatever you can think up to call us.
That's because most of the people here consider Europe a socialist continent, whereas America is the great bastion of freedom, where men can still be men and the government isn't running the show. Poor Europeans!

Europe is of course much like America and vice versa. I personally wouild rather crap on the middle east 🙂

🙂 a sensible man at last!

Thank you!
 
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