Burning DVDs onto CD-RW (without loss of quality)?

mtgcollector01

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I have gotten bombarded with ads regarding this issue recently. I was wondering, has anyone ever tried this? Is it possible? Is there a page somewhere where the software is free? Thanks :)
 

BDawg

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It's just DVDs (MPEG 2) re-encoded with DiVX (MPEG 4 now). It's not a lossless conversion, but some people don't mind. You won't be able to play the backed up DVDs (on CD) in your DVD player...only computer.
 

majewski9

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DIVX! I have made countless rips and they look great. Around the quality of a vhs at a lower bitrate. You can make a divx be pretty close to a dvd. The DIVX codec also for the most part gets better and better.
 

Codewiz

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You can make SVCDs from a DVD which can be the about the same quality but it will take multiple cds

EDITTED: The advantage is that most new DVD players can play SVCDs
 

BDawg

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Originally posted by: Codewiz
You can make SVCDs from a DVD which can be the about the same quality but it will take multiple cds

EDITTED: The advantage is that most new DVD players can play SVCDs

My 3 year old Panasonic A-110 plays SVCDs.

There really isn't much of a use for this technology unless you're planning on pirating movies.

 

rbV5

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There really isn't much of a use for this technology unless you're planning on pirating movies

Or maybe you want to share your legit video's with friends and relatives that happen to own a DVD player that support SVCD's. I suppose you figure a DVD burner is just for "pirating" video's, or a CD burner is just for "pirating" games and music.
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Scitex

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I wonder how long it will be before they come out with a stand alone DivX/DVD player. Of course I would think they would be more expensive since it'll take more computing power to decode the video. Anyone heard of anything coming?
 

krackato

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If you want to share a movie with a friend, why not let them borrow the DVD. Hey, I'm all for fair use and all, but there's no way that I'm going to spend 2-8 hours ripping a DVD, encoding into SVCD or Divx or whatever just to help out a friend. The whole movie ripping thing is far more trouble than it's worth. And don't even get me started on audio sync issues.

With DVD titles between as low as $7-10 if you use Columbia House or just buy used or find a deal, it's not worth the time and hassle.
 

Antisocial Virge

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The whole movie ripping thing is far more trouble than it's worth. And don't even get me started on audio sync issues.

The last time you tried it must have been a while ago. Its a one button, overnight, process now. Audio sync problems are a thing of the past.
 

BillClo

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Mtgcollector01:

There are various software packages out there that will allow you to rip DVDs and make pretty good quality backups. I won't get into the debate over pirating, etc...however, if you'll go to this site and check out the forumns and programs, you'll be off to a good start.

http://www.doom9.org/

Get the "Gordian Knot" program, latest version, print out the various guides, and learn how to do it. It generally isn't hard, and now that the bugs are pretty much raken care of with the software, it's pretty reliable. I get a good quality copy 90+% of the time.

If you have a system with decent speed, it's 3-5 hours. You could let it run overnight if your system is a bit slower.
 

krackato

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What program can you use to rip using a single button? I was somewhat successful ripping some of DVD's to Divx, just to see how tough it was. The thing that killed me is that I'd let it run overnight and then the audio would be out of sync. I got better at it, but then I became obsessed with looking at the lips to see if they were lining up. They'd be close, but not perfect, and then I'd think they were just right and it was just my heads playing games with me. Not fun.
 

joohang

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Originally posted by: rbV5
There really isn't much of a use for this technology unless you're planning on pirating movies

Or maybe you want to share your legit video's with friends and relatives that happen to own a DVD player that support SVCD's. I suppose you figure a DVD burner is just for "pirating" video's, or a CD burner is just for "pirating" games and music.
rolleye.gif

Why get so defensive?

And he did have a point. I know quite a few people who make VCDs and SVCDs to illegally rip DVDs but I don't know anybody who actually used SVCD to share a personal video. And you went way overboard with the CD burner argument.

Similarly, I know many people (especially in colleges) who download DivX (and some other codecs but DivX appears to be the most popular for illegal movie sharing) rips of many popular Hollywood movie DVDs, but I've rarely seen personal videos shared this way.

I've been playing with DVD ripping to watch movies on my iPAQ. It was too much hassle for what I got. I might just end up buying that Fujitsu subnotebook with DVD-ROM drive instead. :D

BTW, as far as I know, there are no apps that can rip and do all the work with a click of a single button. I might end up writing an app that does a batch job, though, if I decide not to get the Fujitsu laptop and still want to rip DVDs regularly.

I second that doom9.org is an excellent site.
 

MrBond

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I encode my favorite DVD's to divx, just because my place in the city isn't in a very good neighborhood, and I wouldn't feel so bad about losing half a spindle of CDRs as opposed to my favorite DVD's.

Head over to www.vcdhelp.com for all the info you'll ever need.
 

yellowperil

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There is an impressive program out called DVD2SVCD that does the '1-button' thing. Actually you have to change a few basic settings but most of the guesswork is taken care of.
 

MrNewt

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yes dvd2svcd is an excellent program, but you need to get cce
(cinema craft encoder) to use with dvd2svcd for best quality.
If your willing to use 3 disks/movie, most 120min. or less movies
can be encoded in 3 hours using constant bitrate (cbr) of 2500.
(I use epox 8kha+ and xp1600 512mb ddr 2100).

the newt
 

joinT

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Originally posted by: rbV5
There really isn't much of a use for this technology unless you're planning on pirating movies

Or maybe you want to share your legit video's with friends and relatives that happen to own a DVD player that support SVCD's. I suppose you figure a DVD burner is just for "pirating" video's, or a CD burner is just for "pirating" games and music.
rolleye.gif


0\\/|\|3D~! ;)
 

joinT

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Originally posted by: joohang
Originally posted by: rbV5
There really isn't much of a use for this technology unless you're planning on pirating movies

Or maybe you want to share your legit video's with friends and relatives that happen to own a DVD player that support SVCD's. I suppose you figure a DVD burner is just for "pirating" video's, or a CD burner is just for "pirating" games and music.
rolleye.gif

Why get so defensive?

And he did have a point. I know quite a few people who make VCDs and SVCDs to illegally rip DVDs but I don't know anybody who actually used SVCD to share a personal video. And you went way overboard with the CD burner argument.

Similarly, I know many people (especially in colleges) who download DivX (and some other codecs but DivX appears to be the most popular for illegal movie sharing) rips of many popular Hollywood movie DVDs, but I've rarely seen personal videos shared this way.

I've been playing with DVD ripping to watch movies on my iPAQ. It was too much hassle for what I got. I might just end up buying that Fujitsu subnotebook with DVD-ROM drive instead. :D

BTW, as far as I know, there are no apps that can rip and do all the work with a click of a single button. I might end up writing an app that does a batch job, though, if I decide not to get the Fujitsu laptop and still want to rip DVDs regularly.

I second that doom9.org is an excellent site.


Well, I use SVCD to encode any kinds of video I want to share w/ friends. TLC, History Channel, Discovery Channel have tons of really cool shows about all kinds of topics. I've taken my collection of humourous videos & made SVCD's out of them to give to friends.

SVCD rocks DivX IMHO because the video quality is at DVD levels. I'm not into ripping movies because I like the special extra's that come on DVD's & DivX still doesn't have high enough quality for me. I end up watching the pixellation instead of the video.
 
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Originally posted by: joinT
Originally posted by: rbV5
There really isn't much of a use for this technology unless you're planning on pirating movies

Or maybe you want to share your legit video's with friends and relatives that happen to own a DVD player that support SVCD's. I suppose you figure a DVD burner is just for "pirating" video's, or a CD burner is just for "pirating" games and music.
rolleye.gif


0\\/|\|3D~! ;)
Owned, how exactly? Sharing your "legit video's with friends and relatives" is still illegal. Or, am I missing something...

Edit: Oh, you meant personal/home videos and such. Nevermind then.
 

BDawg

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Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Originally posted by: joinT
Originally posted by: rbV5
There really isn't much of a use for this technology unless you're planning on pirating movies

Or maybe you want to share your legit video's with friends and relatives that happen to own a DVD player that support SVCD's. I suppose you figure a DVD burner is just for "pirating" video's, or a CD burner is just for "pirating" games and music.
rolleye.gif


0\\/|\|3D~! ;)
Owned, how exactly? Sharing your "legit video's with friends and relatives" is still illegal. Or, am I missing something...

Edit: Oh, you meant personal/home videos and such. Nevermind then.

Riiiighhht... why I don't deny that there are legitimate uses for these applications, you cannot deny that 90% of it's users just bootleg movies.

Personally, I make copies of all of my CD based games and music I take on trips with me so I don't lose them (like that 24 disc case full of cds that I left in a rental car in Middleton, NY).

Pointing out that there are some legitimate uses does not prove that the vast majority of users are pirating. I don't mind programs like these at all...I'm all for fair use. I just dislike the dregs of society who think they have the right to steal whatever they wish.