Bullet tax to solve Chicago gun violence and crime problem

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PrinceofWands

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piasabird said:
To get a gun card in Illionois you have to submit a photo and a your fingerprints. In some states all you need is a driver's License?

All Hail the Police State of Illinois!
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To be clear, you don't 'need' a driver's license...just need to prove your identity.
 
StrangerGuy

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This is so going to work because criminals are law-abiding people that will just bite the bullet. "yeaaaaaaaaah"
 
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Smoblikat

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piasabird said:
To get a gun card in Illionois you have to submit a photo and a your fingerprints. In some states all you need is a driver's License?

All Hail the Police State of Illinois!
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In new hampshire I can waltz down to any gun shop I want, flash them my proof of age and walk out several minutes later HEAVILY armed.
 
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momeNt

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piasabird said:
To get a gun card in Illionois you have to submit a photo and a your fingerprints. In some states all you need is a driver's License?

All Hail the Police State of Illinois!
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no fingerprints. Photo, but they end up using the photo from the drivers license anyways.
 
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PokerGuy

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Smoblikat said:
In new hampshire I can waltz down to any gun shop I want, flash them my proof of age and walk out several minutes later HEAVILY armed.
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Surely crime must be rampant over there, with shootings left and right and innocent bystanders gunned down at the drop of a hat ..... at least that's what the gun-grabbers like those in IL would have us believe. :whiste:

Some people are just willfully blind to the fact that what drives crime is not the availability of weapons, but rather the nature of the people seeking out the weapons - no matter what kind of weapons.
 
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bfdd

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PrinceofWands said:
Not sure who you think you're arguing with...I've spent most of my adult life as a mucky-muck with pro-gun movements. You're preaching to the choir here.

The question was asked 'how would your life change if guns didn't exist'. I assumed that to mean a magic wand which literally prevents guns from existing.
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Not arguing with you, just answering your post in my way. I realized you weren't taking an opposing position to me, I just wanted to run down the list of what really would happen.
 
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PrinceofWands

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bfdd said:
Not arguing with you, just answering your post in my way. I realized you weren't taking an opposing position to me, I just wanted to run down the list of what really would happen.
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Ok, I thought was it but you can't be too sure on here. :cool:
 
Svnla

Svnla

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corwin said:
When are people going to wise up and abandon that shit hole of a city and it's worthless governing entities? I was born there but I'd rather move to Mexico than go back...
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You are planning to go to Mexico to get that ILLEGAL cuttie back into the US, aren't you? :p
 
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momeNt

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Maybe to help stop the illegal guns on the streets, they should instead just buy them off the streets.

$200 a gun, $1 a round of ammo, full amnesty.
 
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spidey07

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momeNt said:
Maybe to help stop the illegal guns on the streets, they should instead just buy them off the streets.

$200 a gun, $1 a round of ammo, full amnesty.
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As a criminal, why in the world would I want to give up my gun that can never be tracked to me? Depending on ammunition, a buck a round is less than retail.
 
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momeNt

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spidey07 said:
As a criminal, why in the world would I want to give up my gun that can never be tracked to me? Depending on ammunition, a buck a round is less than retail.
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Well that's you as a criminal. Other criminals may want to for the money, maybe they got the gun and don't want it anymore but having an illegally obtained weapon is a crime and $200 is better than dumping it in the river.

One thing you should know, is that you are not the market, I'm sure somebody would like the cash. It also would work better than what Chicago is doing now that's for sure.
 
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spidey07

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momeNt said:
Well that's you as a criminal. Other criminals may want to for the money, maybe they got the gun and don't want it anymore but having an illegally obtained weapon is a crime and $200 is better than dumping it in the river.

One thing you should know, is that you are not the market, I'm sure somebody would like the cash. It also would work better than what Chicago is doing now that's for sure.
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Chicago and other cities always do these gun buy backs, turn out is pitiful and mostly non-functioning weapons are turned it. Criminals aren't going to turn in their guns.

And having an illegally obtained gun really isn't necessarily a crime, as the buyer I have no idea if it was obtained illegaly or not. I bought it from a guy who wanted to sell it.
 
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momeNt

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spidey07 said:
Chicago and other cities always do these gun buy backs, turn out is pitiful and mostly non-functioning weapons are turned it. Criminals aren't going to turn in their guns.
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Second option is to make most of their activities - drugs, prostitution, gambling, etc, legal so there can be some natural competition for things that are simply wrong because the law says so.

We create way too many criminals for things that aren't bad.
 
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