Bullet Serialization

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: sandorski
The guy coming into your House. Is he there all the time? Of course the Police are not waiting for such an event, but the chances of it happening are very low. Paranoia.

Golly. I guess I'm awfully paranoid about fire, because I keep two fire extinguishers in my home even though I know the chance of my apartment bursting into flames is quite low and the fire department is just minutes away.

Fire is an entirely different issue. There are always potential sources of Fire in ones home.

Here you go with the capitalization of Common Nouns again. Since you're intent on making ridiculous arguments, how about I rebut with some actual information? From this source, the number of injuries from house fires is 5.2 injured persons per 100,000 people per year. Granted, not everyone who's house catches fire is injured, so maybe we double that number, even triple it or quadruple it, to say that maybe 20 people out of 100,000 will have a house fire. Now from this source, which even comes from Canada, your sanctuary of safety, even using the narrow definition of 'home invasion', the rate is 9.0 per 100,000 people in 2000. A broader definition results in 23 home invasions per 100,000 people.

So, I think we can agree that the odds of having your home invaded are roughly on the same order of magnitude as having a fire in your home. Why are you so paranoid about homefires, sandorski? Why do you have smoke alarms in your house?

No, we can't agree on that. There are many potential sources of Fire in your home 24/7. I suspect there are not Home Invaders in your home near as often.

I don't understand. I just gave you numbers with sources. 5.2 people per 100,000 injured per year by house fire. 9.0 people per 100,000 per year have their home invaded. But you still disagree?

Yup, those are numbers. What about them?

Ok you are completely off of your rocker. You honestly can't comprehend my point, or how these numbers relate to the discussion? You are now either trolling, or you've gone off the deep end. Which is it?

Those numbers are completely irrelevant to the discussion. So what does it matter how many Injuries occur between the 2? Could it be that possibly most people escape their Homes when there is a Fire?

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: sandorski
The guy coming into your House. Is he there all the time? Of course the Police are not waiting for such an event, but the chances of it happening are very low. Paranoia.

If we shouldnt be afraid of robbers....

Why are you afraid of guns?

crickets

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Triumph

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: sandorski
The guy coming into your House. Is he there all the time? Of course the Police are not waiting for such an event, but the chances of it happening are very low. Paranoia.

Golly. I guess I'm awfully paranoid about fire, because I keep two fire extinguishers in my home even though I know the chance of my apartment bursting into flames is quite low and the fire department is just minutes away.

Fire is an entirely different issue. There are always potential sources of Fire in ones home.

Here you go with the capitalization of Common Nouns again. Since you're intent on making ridiculous arguments, how about I rebut with some actual information? From this source, the number of injuries from house fires is 5.2 injured persons per 100,000 people per year. Granted, not everyone who's house catches fire is injured, so maybe we double that number, even triple it or quadruple it, to say that maybe 20 people out of 100,000 will have a house fire. Now from this source, which even comes from Canada, your sanctuary of safety, even using the narrow definition of 'home invasion', the rate is 9.0 per 100,000 people in 2000. A broader definition results in 23 home invasions per 100,000 people.

So, I think we can agree that the odds of having your home invaded are roughly on the same order of magnitude as having a fire in your home. Why are you so paranoid about homefires, sandorski? Why do you have smoke alarms in your house?

No, we can't agree on that. There are many potential sources of Fire in your home 24/7. I suspect there are not Home Invaders in your home near as often.

I don't understand. I just gave you numbers with sources. 5.2 people per 100,000 injured per year by house fire. 9.0 people per 100,000 per year have their home invaded. But you still disagree?

Yup, those are numbers. What about them?

Ok you are completely off of your rocker. You honestly can't comprehend my point, or how these numbers relate to the discussion? You are now either trolling, or you've gone off the deep end. Which is it?

Those numbers are completely irrelevant to the discussion. So what does it matter how many Injuries occur between the 2? Could it be that possibly most people escape their Homes when there is a Fire?

The POINT is that the risk of your home catching Fire, is on the same scale as the Risk of your Home being invaded. I gave you some sources that back up my claim, you deny and/or cannot comprehend them. I understand, there's really nothing more to discuss. I'll sleep well tonight knowing that I have both a smoke alarm and a handgun in my house, since the odds of either my house catching fire or being broken into are really not all that differernt. Which is not paranoia, no matter how you think you can change the definition.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: sandorski
The guy coming into your House. Is he there all the time? Of course the Police are not waiting for such an event, but the chances of it happening are very low. Paranoia.

If we shouldnt be afraid of robbers....

Why are you afraid of guns?

crickets

Look around you. They are Destructive.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: sandorski
The guy coming into your House. Is he there all the time? Of course the Police are not waiting for such an event, but the chances of it happening are very low. Paranoia.

If we shouldnt be afraid of robbers....

Why are you afraid of guns?

crickets

Look around you. They are Destructive.

So take your own adive and stop being paranoid.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: sandorski
The guy coming into your House. Is he there all the time? Of course the Police are not waiting for such an event, but the chances of it happening are very low. Paranoia.

If we shouldnt be afraid of robbers....

Why are you afraid of guns?

crickets

Look around you. They are Destructive.

So take your own adive and stop being paranoid.

I just want to improve things. The Status Quo is Regress, not Progress.

 

[daishi5]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: sandorski
The guy coming into your House. Is he there all the time? Of course the Police are not waiting for such an event, but the chances of it happening are very low. Paranoia.

If we shouldnt be afraid of robbers....

Why are you afraid of guns?

crickets

Look around you. They are Destructive.

So take your own adive and stop being paranoid.

I just want to improve things. The Status Quo is Regress, not Progress.

Even when we assume these people have the best of intentions and are the best of people, their solutions are still a problem. The problem is not this idea, but what can be done with the registry that this would require. Consider these questions, why can't I purchase a fully automatic weapon made after 1986, why couldn't citizens own handguns in Washington DC, why can't citizens in Chicago legally own a handgun? The answer is they require registration, and they made that registration impossible.

Take this plan, require registration, then restrict registration. 1. require registration of all bullets, 2. refuse to restrict certain "dangerous" bullets (hollow points because they are "designed to cause extreme harm above and beyond any justifiable level") 3. slowly expand the definition of the bullets that are not allowed to be registered until there are none left.

This is a registry of all gun owners by default, and every gun registry in the United States that I know of has been used to eventually ban weapons with out actually "banning" the weapon.

Even when it starts as a good idea, it will eventually end up being a ban. IF you could guarantee that such a registry would never be used to, ban, confiscate or restrict gun owners, and that it could be done at a cheap enough price, I doubt many people would complain. However, history has shown that the exact opposite will happen, and things like this unfortunately must be resisted because even though it may help, people will eventually use it to restrict the rights of the people.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: sandorski
The guy coming into your House. Is he there all the time? Of course the Police are not waiting for such an event, but the chances of it happening are very low. Paranoia.

If we shouldnt be afraid of robbers....

Why are you afraid of guns?

crickets

Look around you. They are Destructive.

It is you who are paranoid.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: sandorski
The guy coming into your House. Is he there all the time? Of course the Police are not waiting for such an event, but the chances of it happening are very low. Paranoia.

If we shouldnt be afraid of robbers....

Why are you afraid of guns?

crickets

Look around you. They are Destructive.

So take your own adive and stop being paranoid.

I just want to improve things. The Status Quo is Regress, not Progress.

No, the status quo is the status quo.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: sandorski
The guy coming into your House. Is he there all the time? Of course the Police are not waiting for such an event, but the chances of it happening are very low. Paranoia.

If we shouldnt be afraid of robbers....

Why are you afraid of guns?

crickets

Look around you. They are Destructive.

So take your own adive and stop being paranoid.

I just want to improve things. The Status Quo is Regress, not Progress.

Disarming the people in a democracy is not improving things. That would be a regression, not a progression.

Regardless, you're disconnected from reality. Bullets are cheap and easy to make. Easier, in fact, that any illicit drug already out there on the streets. So all your agenda would do is create another dangerous black market.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: Train

Originally posted by: sandorski
The guy coming into your House. Is he there all the time? Of course the Police are not waiting for such an event, but the chances of it happening are very low. Paranoia.

If we shouldnt be afraid of robbers....

Why are you afraid of guns?

crickets

Look around you. They are Destructive.

So take your own adive and stop being paranoid.

I just want to improve things. The Status Quo is Regress, not Progress.

Disarming the people in a democracy is not improving things. That would be a regression, not a progression.

Regardless, you're disconnected from reality. Bullets are cheap and easy to make. Easier, in fact, that any illicit drug already out there on the streets. So all your agenda would do is create another dangerous black market.

Drugs and Bullets are very different things.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: sandorski
I just want to improve things. The Status Quo is Regress, not Progress.

Disarming the people in a democracy is not improving things. That would be a regression, not a progression.

Regardless, you're disconnected from reality. Bullets are cheap and easy to make. Easier, in fact, that any illicit drug already out there on the streets. So all your agenda would do is create another dangerous black market.

Drugs and Bullets are very different things.

but black markets are black markets, and they always create societal problems.