Building my own computer

[naimcohen]

thanks so what psu should i go for?

are these two 512mb alright for my system?

Samsung Original 512mb PC3200 DDR400 184pin Memory Module

thanks

 

[fatty4ksu]

AMD is HORRRRIBLEEE w/encoding dvd's.

Stick w/intel if that is your thing.

 

[fatty4ksu]

Get this case/PSU

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811129150

 

[naimcohen]

thanks but i wanted a case wit neon lights and a side window
is there any like that with a good psu or can i just buy a seperate psu?

thanks

 

[naimcohen]

and what about the Samsung Original 512mb PC3200 DDR400 184pin Memory Module?

thanks

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
AMD is HORRRRIBLEEE w/encoding dvd's.

Stick w/intel if that is your thing.

Yeah but that's the only thing (and video encoding) that intel is better than AMD at. Normamly your remarks are 100% troll remarks, but your case/PSU recommendation is nice :thumbsup:

Can you give a rough estimate of 500 pounds, in dollars? That will help us a lot. The majority of us feel that you should move to AMD though.

If I'm not mistaken, 1 pound is 1.5 dollars, so 500 pounds is $750

Case: Anything for roughly $60. I'd recommend CoolerMaster Cavalier:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16811119075
$56

Power Supply: Antec 400W ATX 2.0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817103935
$55

Motherboard: ASUS A8N-E. This board sells for $119 on Newegg, but unfortuantely it's out of stock. See this link for the refurbished board for information on it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131530R
$119

Processor: AMD Athlon64 "Venice" core 3000+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537
$147

<Kind of got too lazy to provide links from this point on>
DVD Burner: NEC 3520A $45
Floppy: Any $7
RAM: Corsair ValueSelect $80
Graphics card: 6600GT $170
Hard Drive: Seagate or Western Digital 120GB $90 ish

$769

Edit: You wanted 160GB instead of 120 right? Please make those changes.

-The Pentium Guy

 

[t3h l337 n3wb]

Originally posted by: fatty4ksu
:thumbsup:

No. You're a moron. Stop trolling please.

AMD > Intel in just about everything. Runs cooler, much more efficient architecture, overclocks much better, better bang for your buck, etc... I could go on, and on, and on... Just because you've never tried an AMD processor, it doesn't mean that they're bad. Also, you will definitely need a better PSU than the one that comes with the case. Chances are, the PSU will just die on you, and in a worst case scenario, fry some of youre components. Antec, Fortron, Sparkle, XClio, OCZ, and Enermax are great brands just to name a few. 90% of all members in this forum will recommend AMD, and it's not just because we're fanboys.

 

[KoolDrew]

500 pounds ~ 900 US

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
500 pounds ~ 900 US

Ah! That gives you breathing room to get an X800XL then . It's a better value than the intel system you put together though, undoubtedly faster.

 

[KoolDrew]

Chaintech VNF4 Ultra = $90
AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Venice = $267
2x512MB Corsair Value Select = $80
Leadtek 6600GT = $170
Seagate Barracuda 7200.7/7200.8
Antec SLK3700BQE - $60

I don't know what else you need, but work off that.

 

[KoolDrew]

Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
500 pounds ~ 900 US

Ah! That gives you breathing room to get an X800XL then . It's a better value than the intel system you put together though, undoubtedly faster.

He did say "some games" so from the sounds of it a X800XL would be overkill. That is why I suggested a 6600GT.

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Originally posted by: KoolDrew

Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy

Originally posted by: KoolDrew
500 pounds ~ 900 US

Ah! That gives you breathing room to get an X800XL then . It's a better value than the intel system you put together though, undoubtedly faster.

He did say "some games" so from the sounds of it a X800XL would be overkill. That is why I suggested a 6600GT.

You're right. I suppose he can spend the extra $200 or so on a 3500+ like you suggested.

 

[fatty4ksu]

Honestly, if you are big w/video encoding and authoring dvd's, I'd strongly suggest the dual-core 2.8 ghz pentium D.

It's only 260 bucks, but a fantastic mulitasker.

 

[naimcohen]

thank you all so much you have been such a great help!!!!

i have considered it as most of you are saying amd would be better for me i should go with it.

i dont know anything about it so can you please show me what motherboard, processor and psu to get from www.ebuyer.co.uk

thank you

 

[SrGuapo]

OK, do you plan on doing any overclocking? What features do you need on a mobo (firewire, tons of USB, dual-LAN, etc.). A good, stable, cheap mobo is the Chaintech VNF4 Ultra. It lacks firewire, but is otherwise a great board.

Also, when you say "some gaming", what kind of games are we talking? Are you pretty picky about picture quality, or would you survive at lower resolutions and frames per second?

 

[naimcohen]

not realy i want a 3.0 + ghz computer
i make dvds quite often so is amd fast at that?

thanks

 

[SrGuapo]

deleted, my bad...

 

[naimcohen]

???

 

[SrGuapo]

Originally posted by: naimcohen
not realy i want a 3.0 + ghz computer
i make dvds quite often so is amd fast at that?

thanks

Though intel tends to be faster at video editing than AMD, the difference is not *that* much (maybe a few percent slower). The price and AMDs dominance in other apps more than make up for this IMHO. When you say 3.0 GHz, you mean PR right? AMD cpus run slower than intels (the 3000+ venice is 1,8 GHz) but can do more operations per cycle, so they are more or less equal. The fastest AMD CPU only runs at 2.6 GHz (though a 2.8 GHz one is about to be released)

If you plan to OC any, make sure your mobo is up to it. With lighter OCing (200-400 MHz) almost any board will work (I recommend the chaintech). If you plan on doing more, you may need a better board, which will cost more money.

If you are unsure about OCing, you may wat to read a few threads regarding it and some guides to doing it. If you are stil confused, feel free to ask here. The PC in my sig was my first build and OC, and I was very surprised how easy it was. If you are already fairly comfortable with computers, building is not THAT difficult. Just take your time, read through a few guides beforehand and have fun. One of the forum members has a great first time guide online (don't remeber link, just google "mechbgon").

Good luck!

 

[naimcohen]

are you saying a 3.0ghz P4 is the same as a 1.8ghz AMD?

 

[The Pentium Guy]

Sure is. A 1.8 ghz AMD is faster than a 3.0ghz P4.

 

[cryptonomicon]

yes.

also AMDs (generally) consume less power and dissapate less heat. basically it is a great deal to buy an AMD platform, unless you are so uncomfortable with trying something new that you would rather stick with intel.

 

[SrGuapo]

Originally posted by: naimcohen
are you saying a 3.0ghz P4 is the same as a 1.8ghz AMD?

More or less. It depends on the core and what programs you are using. Think of it this way. AMD and intel are hauling data from one place to another. Intel uses a ferrari and goes 500 km/h back and forth, but only carries a little at a time. AMD uses a truck that goes much slower, but can transport much more at a time.

The Athlon 64 CPUs can do ~9 instructions per cycle. Pentium 4s do about 6.

 

[naimcohen]

alright so can you please recommend a good motherboard, cpu and psu from www.ebuyer.co.uk

thanks

 

[SrGuapo]

Originally posted by: cryptonomicon
yes.

also AMDs (generally) consume less power and dissapate less heat. basically it is a great deal to buy an AMD platform, unless you are so uncomfortable with trying something new that you would rather stick with intel.

Now, now- intels still have their place. Video editing and heavy multitaskign are great uses of pentiums. Obviously this is not a priority for everyone though. ?For the most part, however, AMDs are superior to intels. They tend to be cheaper (At least in the low-mid range lines), consume less power, dissipate less heat, and perform better to sum it all up.