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Building AMD PC

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jime1

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I have a budget of about Rs.30k ($500) to build a new PC for multipurpose use, I chose AMD as its cheaper than Intel, so please guide me..
can AMD be power efficient ?

1. I want to do some lite graphics designing, photoshop, gaming, internet browsing, video encoding, etc. PC should be snappy and quick

2. Budget is Rs.30000 i.e. $500, will add about $80 if necessary

3. I live in the center of India, would buy from Flipkart.com or snapdeal.com

4. helpful Links : http://www.flipkart.com/ http://www.snapdeal.com/

5. Brand preference : would avoid ASUS
Whatever is the bang for the bucks(according to your expertise) is my first preference,
ASRock or GB would be preferred for mobo

6. Building a new PC from scratch

7. If the PC gets my work done at defaults clocks, then I would avoid OC-ing

8.A Full HD screen is preferred (my current monitor is 1600x900)

9. plan to build it within a month

X. I can take care of the software, only help is needed to chose the right pieces of hardware


I forgot to mention : the PC should be quiet as a Ninja, or at least as silent as possible (I'm having a bad time with my current very noisy PC)

Thank you Anand for all the facilities !
 
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It sounds like you want a Rs. 60,000 PC, plus monitor, to fit in Rs. 35,000. As such, some compromises will be required.

jime1 said:
1. I want to do some lite graphics designing, photoshop, gaming, internet browsing, video encoding, etc. PC should be snappy and quick
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Could you please rank the importance of PhotoShop, gaming, and fast video encoding to you? (Or is that the order already?) What games do you want to play?
 
Ken g6 said:
It sounds like you want a Rs. 60,000 PC, plus monitor, to fit in Rs. 35,000. As such, some compromises will be required.
Could you please rank the importance of PhotoShop, gaming, and fast video encoding to you? (Or is that the order already?) What games do you want to play?
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sorry about that bro !
Just help me to build a multipurpose/gaming PC under "35k" if possible,
I'd be very grateful ^_^

I know , compromises will be there as I'm on such a tight budget
 
This is the least expensive configuration I could come up with that I would consider to be a reasonable gaming machine:

Core i3 4150 Rs. 7700
Gigabyte GA-B85-D3H Rs. 5900
Kingston DDR3 1600 4GB x2 Rs. 5800
Gigabyte GTX 750 Ti 2GB Rs 11300
Seagate 500GB 7200RPM Rs. 2800
Corsair VS450 Rs. 2400
Antec ASK-4000B-U3 Rs. 2300
BenQ VW2245Z 21.5" 1080p monitor Rs. 6500
Total: Rs. 44700

Going to an FX-6300 would save roughly Rs. 2000 due to the less expensive motherboard (CPU costs the same). You could also shave Rs 2800 off by going with 4GB of RAM. Basically, the inclusion of the monitor in the budget throws things way off.

To get under 35k, you would need to go with an APU:

AMD A8-6600K Rs. 8000
ASUS A88XM-A Rs. 6400 - I know you said you didn't like ASUS, but this is the best FM2 option available on Flipkart.
Kingston DDR3 1600 4GB x2 Rs. 5800
Seagate 500GB 7200RPM Rs. 2800
Corsair VS450 Rs. 2400
Antec ASK-4000B-U3 Rs. 2300
BenQ VW2245Z 21.5" 1080p monitor Rs. 6500
Total: Rs. 34200
 
@mfenn: In the second build, what if I get a AMD6300 and a dedicated GPU?

What frequency of ram should I prefer ? should I get 4 or 8 GB ?

And please don't worry about the SMPS/PSU, monitor, HDD, cabinet/chassis : I can handle these
 
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jime1 said:
@mfenn: In the second build, what if I get a AMD6300 and a dedicated GPU?

What frequency of ram should I prefer ? should I get 4 or 8 GB ?

And please don't worry about the SMPS/PSU, monitor, HDD, cabinet/chassis : I can handle these
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You should not buy an FX6300 saves you little money in the grand scheme of things and is much worse for gaming than a Haswell Core i3. The difference between the two builds is almost wholly accounted for by the cost of the discrete GPU itself.

If you can get parts for significantly below the prices listed on Flipkart, then you should go for the i3 build. If you can't, then the APU build is what you're left with.
 
mfenn said:
You should not buy an FX6300 saves you little money in the grand scheme of things and is much worse for gaming than a Haswell Core i3. The difference between the two builds is almost wholly accounted for by the cost of the discrete GPU itself.

If you can get parts for significantly below the prices listed on Flipkart, then you should go for the i3 build. If you can't, then the APU build is what you're left with.
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why bro whats wrong with FX series,
what about the new Athlons and phenoms ?

I will do other thing too, not just gaming on this PC
 
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jime1 said:
why bro whats wrong with FX series,
what about the new Athlons and phenoms ?
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There's nothing "wrong" with the FX series per se. The issues is that its gaming performance is lower than the Intel equivalent for the same money.

There aren't really any "new" Phenoms. The "new" Athlon X4 800 series parts are APUs with the graphics portion disabled.
 
mfenn said:
There's nothing "wrong" with the FX series per se. The issues is that its gaming performance is lower than the Intel equivalent for the same money.

There aren't really any "new" Phenoms. The "new" Athlon X4 800 series parts are APUs with the graphics portion disabled.
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Oh God why AMD is so whatever 🙁
 
mfenn said:
Yep, it is really unfortunate that they are not able to keep up with Intel anymore. :'(
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Aw ! I know, phew, Fine...leave AMD to itself then :'(

I might just build a cheapo Intel Rig instead :
Pentium G (the best 1)
best supo mobo
best GPU under 10k
best 8Gig RAM (please explain the frequency stuff okay, noob here in this case)
...I'll take care of the rest of the parts...
 
Are you really reading what mfenn said? There is a big difference in gaming between a hyperthreaded i3 and a pentium. I would *not* go with a pentium for gaming.
 
To be fair, if you're really budget constrained, a Pentium G3258 on a H81 board is excellent value. You can overclock it to 4+ GHz with the stock cooler. The only downside is that quad threaded games - which are increasingly common - will not run quite as nicely as they would on a lower clocked i3, not to mention an i5. And a couple of games will refuse to start with just two cores.

But if your budget allows, you'll definitely want a 3.5-3.6GHz i3.
 
lehtv said:
To be fair, if you're really budget constrained, a Pentium G3258 on a H81 board is excellent value. You can overclock it to 4+ GHz with the stock cooler. The only downside is that quad threaded games - which are increasingly common - will not run quite as nicely as they would on a lower clocked i3, not to mention an i5. And a couple of games will refuse to start with just two cores.

But if your budget allows, you'll definitely want a 3.5-3.6GHz i3.
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Ah, now I get it, tysm for the generous explanation bro !
I'll keep the budget upto 30k only, I'll add i3 and a nice mobo
but I'll have to compromise the GPU then, will have to buy a 6k or 7k GPU
I just hope I'll get a "bit only sorta descent" GPU in that price range :\
let me see...on flipkart...
 
Guys, please help me to chose from these cards :

Sapphire Amd Ati Radeon Hd 7730 1 Gb Ddr5 Graphics Card : http://www.snapdeal.com/product/sapphire-amd-ati-radeon-hd/652641564043#bcrumbLabelId:305


Asus Radeon R7250-1gd5 Graphic Card: http://www.snapdeal.com/product/asus-radeon-r72501gd5-graphic-card/501842671#bcrumbLabelId:305


ZOTAC NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 2GB DDR5 Graphics Card: http://www.snapdeal.com/product/zotac-nvidia-geforce-gt-730/162169274#bcrumbLabelId:305


Sapphire AMD/ATI Radeon R7 250 1Gb Ddr5 Graphics Card With Bo..:http://www.snapdeal.com/product/sapphire-radeon-r7-250-1gb/922130829#bcrumbLabelId:305


For This Rig :

Intel i3 3220 : http://www.flipkart.com/intel-i3-32...MNU=&ref=a680ed2a-6c25-4920-a4e6-24a47b4a65dc


Mobo May be (Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H): http://www.flipkart.com/gigabyte-ga...MNU=&ref=39b4a8ed-17eb-4850-ba5d-9f84d2c584ea

8GB DDR3 RAM one of these : http://www.flipkart.com/computers/computer-components/rams/pr?p[]=facets.capacity%255B%255D%3D8%2BGB&p[]=facets.data_rate%255B%255D%3DDDR3&p[]=facets.device%255B%255D%3DPC&p[]=facets.price_range%255B%255D%3DRs.%2B2001%2B-%2BRs.%2B5000&sid=6bo%2Cg0i%2Cs5u&ref=8f3387e0-35ce-445f-9c97-9255b5b79036#jumpTo=299|14
 
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jime1 said:
Guys, please help me to chose from these cards :

Sapphire Amd Ati Radeon Hd 7730 1 Gb Ddr5 Graphics Card : http://www.snapdeal.com/product/sapphire-amd-ati-radeon-hd/652641564043#bcrumbLabelId:305


Asus Radeon R7250-1gd5 Graphic Card: http://www.snapdeal.com/product/asus-radeon-r72501gd5-graphic-card/501842671#bcrumbLabelId:305


ZOTAC NVIDIA GeForce GT 730 2GB DDR5 Graphics Card: http://www.snapdeal.com/product/zotac-nvidia-geforce-gt-730/162169274#bcrumbLabelId:305


Sapphire AMD/ATI Radeon R7 250 1Gb Ddr5 Graphics Card With Bo..:http://www.snapdeal.com/product/sapphire-radeon-r7-250-1gb/922130829#bcrumbLabelId:305
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I would honestly not buy any of these cards. Since you are budget limited, in your place I would use the IGP for a while (low details and resolution) until I had a chance to save up enough for a better GPU. The alternative is tossing a significant chunk of your budget at a GPU that is really sub-par.
 
mfenn said:
I would honestly not buy any of these cards. Since you are budget limited, in your place I would use the IGP for a while (low details and resolution) until I had a chance to save up enough for a better GPU. The alternative is tossing a significant chunk of your budget at a GPU that is really sub-par.
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aw man !!!!😱
as I said earlier "its just so tough to chose a GPU" !!!🙁🙁🙁:'(

@mfenn: please suggest the least expensive "really sub-par" GPU that I can/should buy, once and for all
 
Well, I game on a HD7770, which is the same as the R7 250x, and it is decent. But yes, I would agree try to get an R7260 or nVidia GT750 or higher. Unfortunately I think those mostly only have 1gb of video ram and 2gb is preferable (highly) today. That would require an R7260x or GTX750 Ti.

But anything above the R7 250 will be considerably better than the integrated graphics of an APU and should work for low end 1080p gaming except perhaps is the latest demanding titles.

Actually, unless you need a new monitor for other reasons, I would consider delaying the purchase of a monitor and put the money toward a nice i3 and a decent dgpu if your budget is that tight.
 
frozentundra123456 said:
Unfortunately I think those mostly only have 1gb of video ram and 2gb is preferable (highly) today. That would require an R7 260X or GTX 750 Ti.
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I agree with this 100%. The R7 260X and GTX 750 Ti are the minimum cards from each camp that I would consider to be "worthwhile" upgrades over an APU.

By "worthwhile", I mean that of course are lesser cards that are still faster than an APU, but those cards are sitting at a pretty non-optimal place on the price/performance curve.
 
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