building a web site

rorpan

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Hey anyone out there know of some good free software to build a website? I don't know much about website construction so I will be learning as I go,
Thanks for any tips
thanks
 

Cheetah8799

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There is a sticky thread at the top of this forum that has some free web editors linked in it. I've not used any, so can't comment.
 

nweaver

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Originally posted by: statik213
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
vim

lol


Works well, colored code.....

I use it quite a bit. My company also has a box with Dreamweaver MX on it I use sometimes (i'm not an HTML guy) to build the "base" of a page, and do tweaks/changes in vi
 

Modeps

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your best bet is to start at the base. goto www.w3schools.com and click learn HTML. You should not be making a website if you do not know HTML. It's not a hard 'language', it just takes practice.

Secondly when you do learn HTML, learn CSS to go along with it.

Please do not just go and grab dreamweaver and make some website with it's gui interface, learn how dreamweaver is working and what it's doing first. it really is crucial in creating websites.
 

RudeBoie

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Well, I would say that depends on what you want to do.

Learning the code is a huge time investment and not really practical/necessary for all purposes. Nice, yes, but not always the best solution.

I'm trying to start my own site, and want to learn Dreamweaver at the same time as I learn the coding.
 

Modeps

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Originally posted by: RudeBoie
Well, I would say that depends on what you want to do.

Learning the code is a huge time investment and not really practical/necessary for all purposes. Nice, yes, but not always the best solution.

I'm trying to start my own site, and want to learn Dreamweaver at the same time as I learn the coding.

If it's worth doing, it's worth doing RIGHT.
 

screw3d

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I agree with learning HTML the proper way. Come on even business majors learn HTML :p

/flamesuit on
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: screw3d
I agree with learning HTML the proper way. Come on even business majors learn HTML :p

/flamesuit on


If one is just doing basic stuff, they don't need to learn HTML, however, it helps to know a couple of things. I've never used anything other than GoLive, and it does all the HTML coding for you. For basic things, even Word and Excel can get the job done without any knowledge of HTML coding.
 

Modeps

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: screw3d
I agree with learning HTML the proper way. Come on even business majors learn HTML :p

/flamesuit on


If one is just doing basic stuff, they don't need to learn HTML, however, it helps to know a couple of things. I've never used anything other than GoLive, and it does all the HTML coding for you. For basic things, even Word and Excel can get the job done without any knowledge of HTML coding.
That attitude is why there's so much crap on the internet!

 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: screw3d
I agree with learning HTML the proper way. Come on even business majors learn HTML :p

/flamesuit on


If one is just doing basic stuff, they don't need to learn HTML, however, it helps to know a couple of things. I've never used anything other than GoLive, and it does all the HTML coding for you. For basic things, even Word and Excel can get the job done without any knowledge of HTML coding.
That attitude is why there's so much crap on the internet!

Nah, hell I use GoLive to make my Ebay listings, and I do pretty well with that.
 

aloser

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Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: screw3d
I agree with learning HTML the proper way. Come on even business majors learn HTML :p

/flamesuit on


If one is just doing basic stuff, they don't need to learn HTML, however, it helps to know a couple of things. I've never used anything other than GoLive, and it does all the HTML coding for you. For basic things, even Word and Excel can get the job done without any knowledge of HTML coding.

Au contraire - for "JUST the basics" it's all the more reason to learn the appropriate HTML codings. I'm all for GoLive/Frontpage/Dreamweaver/NVU; but they have their time and place. For just "basic" scripting, it'll take longer to open your favorite WYSIWYG editor and let it do its thing (which includes throwing in its own useless crap like the Generator tags, et. Al.) than it would to open Notepad and type in the code - and it won't have the "useless" crap in it either.
 

nweaver

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I use dreamweaver to build my forms that feed perl scripts for internal apps and automation. I use dreamweaver to learn what it's doing (if I have time) and because it's quick. My time (imho) is better spent working on the perl CGI to make it better, rather then learning CSS and HTML for simple web apps.
 

xtknight

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Having Word generate HTML?

Oh dear god...

Well just make sure you run it through HTML Tidy with the Office option. ;)
 

Doug117

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Originally posted by: Modeps
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: screw3d
I agree with learning HTML the proper way. Come on even business majors learn HTML :p

/flamesuit on


If one is just doing basic stuff, they don't need to learn HTML, however, it helps to know a couple of things. I've never used anything other than GoLive, and it does all the HTML coding for you. For basic things, even Word and Excel can get the job done without any knowledge of HTML coding.
That attitude is why there's so much crap on the internet!
Thank You! I was going to say the same thing!!
 

bamacre

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Originally posted by: nweaver
I use dreamweaver to build my forms that feed perl scripts for internal apps and automation. I use dreamweaver to learn what it's doing (if I have time) and because it's quick. My time (imho) is better spent working on the perl CGI to make it better, rather then learning CSS and HTML for simple web apps.


Exactly. It's all about time management. My use of HTML is a small part of my business, an important part, but a small one. My time is better economically spent doing something else rather than coding in notepad. Using GoLive, copy/paste, drag 'n drop, saves me valuable time.

Originally posted by: screw3d
Knowing proper structural, semantic HTML is what seperates the man and the boys ;)

I wish that were true. But it's what's in the wallat that seperates the men and the boys. It's sad but true.

But to each his own, that's what I love about computers and software. There used to be an old saying, "there's more than way to skin a cat." Now there are a million ways to skin a cat, probably all collected in some website called skinyourcat.com.