building a new system problem... please help

[stingbandel]

Hi, I just set up a new system with shuttle ak 31 rev 3.1. the problem that I am having is I can't even go to the dos using the floopy. the mobo detects all the hardwares.


my hardwares:
shuttle ak31 rev 3.1
crucial pc 2100 registered
WD 80 gig
nvidia geforce 2 mx

please help me out as I am out of idea what's going on with this.

Darno

 

[John]

Ar eyou sure you have the floppy drive hooked up properly?

 

[KINGFORADAY]

Sounds like a hardware problem. You can get to a GUI mode though eh? You hear any beeps at boot-up ? What OS you useing?

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

can you get into bios? if so, make sure you have your boot options set to find the floppy/cdrom/harddrive/whatever, and make sure they are in the right order. for your o/s you should have a bootable cd. just set in bios to make the first bootable the cdrom, install the o/s, go back into bios and change it to h/d. or am i misunderstanding?

 

[stingbandel]

yes John, the floopy hooked up properly. it actually detect and then said error 40 something like that but sometimes it just hangs.





Darno

 

[KINGFORADAY]

<< Ar eyou sure you have the floppy drive hooked up properly? >>



I am not sure but, unless you changed the boot sequence it wouldn't boot past the floopy if it was hooked up wrong.

 

[stingbandel]

<< can you get into bios? if so, make sure you have your boot options set to find the floppy/cdrom/harddrive/whatever, and make sure they are in the right order. for your o/s you should have a bootable cd. just set in bios to make the first bootable the cdrom, install the o/s, go back into bios and change it to h/d. or am i misunderstanding? >>



yes, the setting is already floopy cd rom and hdd. I have win xp and I am sure it's a bootable cd. but the problem is I want to flash the latest bios but I can't even get to the dos. the problem I am having is "floopy disk fail (40)"




Darno

 

[stingbandel]

<< Sounds like a hardware problem. You can get to a GUI mode though eh? You hear any beeps at boot-up ? What OS you useing? >>






I can hear the beep. I can actually go to the bios. I haven't set up any os yet cause it's not even go to the dos through floopy. when I set the first boot to cd then it detects the cd (win xp). it says detect hardware and then hang.


Darno

 

[KINGFORADAY]

<< yes John, the floopy hooked up properly. it actually detect and then said error 40 something like that but sometimes it just hangs.





Darno >>



What is the exact error message recieved?

 

[stingbandel]

<<

<< Ar eyou sure you have the floppy drive hooked up properly? >>



I am not sure but, unless you changed the boot sequence it wouldn't boot past the floopy if it was hooked up wrong. >>



I tried to insert the wd disk and it went through but gave me problem when trying to format it. it said it didn't detect the hdd.


the bios detect the hdd.




Darno

 

[KINGFORADAY]

Man did you install any new software recently?

 

[stingbandel]

<<

<< yes John, the floopy hooked up properly. it actually detect and then said error 40 something like that but sometimes it just hangs.





Darno >>



What is the exact error message recieved? >>



floopy disk fail (40)that's the error.



Darno

 

[stingbandel]

<< Man did you install any new software recently? >>



it's a brand new system so no softwares at all.






Darno

 

[KINGFORADAY]

Is the OS installed and fine? If so go into your CMOS and boot from c: make it look to c: for the boot partition first. OK. Boot first to C: then your CD Rom then floppy. Sounds like your floppy is faulty. 10 buck gets ya a new one.

 

[KINGFORADAY]

have you seen it boot up?

 

[stingbandel]

<< Is the OS installed and fine? If so go into your CMOS and boot from c: make it look to c: for the boot partition first. OK. Boot first to C: then your CD Rom then floppy. Sounds like your floppy is faulty. 10 buck gets ya a new one. >>



no, the os didn't go through after inspecting hardware. when I inserted the wd disk, it went through but gave me like fat 32 problem something like that. when I chose the ez installation, it said it couldn't detect the hdd but the mobo detected it.




Darno

 

[stingbandel]

here is the problem that I see after inserting the wd utilities... "BIOS Read Error on drive 80" press any key to continue.




Darno

 

[KINGFORADAY]

LOL I dunno man take it back to the retailer.

"darno"

 

[stingbandel]

ok thanks for the help. can anybody help me out??? thanks




Darno

 

[tonyeo]

I had the same problem (with ak31a), it turned out to be the ide cable to the floppy was connected the wrong way, I turned it around and now it works fine, now if I could solve my other problems !!!!!!!!!

 

[stingbandel]

<< I had the same problem (with ak31a), it turned out to be the ide cable to the floppy was connected the wrong way, I turned it around and now it works fine, now if I could solve my other problems !!!!!!!!! >>



I think the floopy is right cause it went to the first page of the utilities.




Darno

 

[Lanyap]

>>>>>>>> Floppy disk fail (40) or (80) error:

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

woops, forgot about this thread. floppy 40 is either a backwards cable or dead drive. make sure it's hooked up right (no light constantly on), if that doesnt work it could be dead (or the mobo connector is bad, etc). put the drive in another p00ter and see what happens. you do have it set as a 1.44 meg floppy and not a 2.88 or 32 meg, ls-120 or whatever right?

although i havent seen it happen personally, ive *heard* that putting the cable on backwards can fry the drive (not sure if this is true, and was several years ago when i worked at a place on these things). i never found it to hurt