Building a new System!! Need Advice!! :)

[rahulmax]

Hello everyone, i am new here so please be kind
Here are the specs that i currently have :

CPU : Intel pentium 4 3.2ghz with Ht
GPU : Nvidia geforce 8600gt 512mb (540mhz core clock ,30 stream processors, 128 bit , 22gb memory bandwidth)
RAM : 1.5gb ddr2 600mhz
PSU : 450w (local)
MOBO : Gigabyte g31s2l
COOLING: Stock
(i know it sucks pretty bad )

Here are the specs that i am planning to buy :

CPU : Intel core i5 2500k 3.3ghz with turbo mode to 3.7ghz
GPU : zotac geforce Gtx 560 Ti 1gb
RAM : Gskill 4GB ddr3 1600 mhz
PSU : Crosair gs 600w
MOBO : Asus h61 (i know i cant overclock the cpu, i dont want to)
COOLING : Hyper 212 plus

I'd like to know if:

1. Is this power supply enough?
2. (IMPORTANT) are these specs enough for all the latest games on ultra?(1240x1024)
3. Any addition or deletion?

 

[lehtv]

Please check out the sticky and answer the questions:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=80121

 

[Ken g6]

If you're not gonna overclock, don't get a "k" processor. Consider a 2400.

Why not get 8GB for $30 AR? (Being out of the USA is a good reason. Be sure to get 1.5v or less RAM.)

 

[rahulmax]

1. Gaming

2. $650-$750

3. India

4. Intel , Nvidia

5. Just the hard disk and dvd rome

6. I have searched a bit yeah!!

7. I prefer default speeds!!

8. 1240x1024

9. Next week

 

[rahulmax]

Thanks for replying. i am buying 2500k because i am low on budget for the motherboard, so for now i am buying a cheap motherboard. But i'll be future proof with 2500k and also it provides hd 3000 compared to hd 2000. Just for that nothing else. and yeah i will be buying a gskill 4 gb for now.. it will cost around rupees 2000 in india. and will buy another 4 gb later on.

 

[lehtv]

If you don't OC you simply don't need K version, and you have a discrete GPU so you don't need HD3000. Besides, HD2000 is good enough for any task that HD3000 is good for - both are terrible for gaming anyway. I would recommend i5-2400 or i5-2500 non-K, and a H67 board for SATA 6gb/s compatibility so you can add a SATA 6gb/s SSD later. Since you don't overclock, don't buy an aftermarket cooler, the stock cooler is fine.

You could probably go with 8GB RAM right away. Most H61 boards have only 2 RAM slots.

Your resolution does not need a 560 Ti. Radeon 6850 would be absolutely fine. If you want to stick with NVIDIA, then GTX 560 non-Ti. In fact, I'd rather trade the i5 + 560 ti for an i3-2100 + 6850 + cheap 1080p monitor. Medium settings on 1920x1080 >> ultra settings on 1280x1024.

A good 500W power supply would be enough, just make sure it has two PCI-e connectors and is from a reputable brand like Corsair, Antec, Seasonic, XFX. If you get a 6850, only one PCIe connector is needed. E.g. Antec Neo Eco 400C, Antec EA430D, Corsair CX430 V2.

 

[rahulmax]

Thank you for that detailed reply
i agree, i'll be getting a i5 2500 now..but h67 here in india is expensive its almost like (5000-6000) rupees or ($100-$120) my budget doesn't allow me to do that. And also i only like nvidia products don't wanna go for "radeon".

Aftermarket cooler is because here in india, summers are pretty hot, temp. can go upto like 120 degrees, so basically its not for oc'in but it will keep the temps. down in summers.

RAM here in india ia 4x1 gskill is available for $40. so, i will be getting one of those right now because i have only two slots. and another i'll buy sometime later. ( are you asking me to buy 8x1? )

I would have gone for i3, but soon i will be getting a new monitor so it is better to be future proof. and 560ti is so hot, i don't wanna miss it!! ill go for i2500 now..n drop the k version..

hows crosair gs 600 psu?

i have a budget of 36000 rupees ie $720
and the specs that i have listed are :

CPU : Intel core i5 2500k 3.3ghz with turbo mode to 3.7ghz price(10200 or $204)
Intel core i5 2500 3.3 (9200 or $184)

GPU : zotac geforce Gtx 560 Ti 1gb (12800 or $ 256)
NON-TI 560 (10800 or $216)

RAM : Gskill 4GB ddr3 1600 mhz (2000 or $40)

PSU : Crosair gs 600w (3600 or $72)

MOBO : Asus h61 (i know i cant overclock the cpu, i dont want to) (3450 or $69)

COOLING : Hyper 212 plus (2000 or $40)

+ cabinet around (2000 or $40)

 

[Ken g6]

hows crosair gs 600 psu?

As long as you're misspelling "Corsair", it should be great. If not it could be like a "Rolox" watch. D:

Do save the 1k Rupees on the processor and avoid the "k".

If you really want future proof, I would:
1. Find the cheapest (decent-brand) H67, P67, or Z68 mobo you can. (The problem being that H61 may not support Ivy Bridge.)
2. Buy the fastest CPU that still fits in your budget. (i.e. i3 2120 or something.)
3. Trade up to an Ivy Bridge when they come out, since they'll run cooler.

 

[rahulmax]

Thanks for replying LOL @ my misspelled word

I completely agree with you, i should be getting a z68 mobo or atleast p67 and spend less on the processor for now.

BUT, after my upgrade to an i3 and h67 or even i5 and h61.. i won't be upgrading for at'least 2 years. So. even if i buy h67 and i3.. i wont be upgrading to an ivy bridge if it comes out within 2 years. So, i don't want to ruin my present thinkin about the future.
So, technically i don't want to be future proof and 2 years is loooong time!!
for sure ill be saving my 1k for the non k

 

[lehtv]

Ivy Bridge will come out in like 4-5 months. I suppose the idea was that you'd sell the i3 and use part of that to buy the Ivy Bridge quad core which will last much longer before needing an upgrade

 

[fastamdman]

If you are against overclocking my vote would be to grab a z68 board and the 2500 then when IB comes out sell the 2500 and grab a new chip. Outta curiosity what do you have against overclocking?

 

[rahulmax]

If you are against overclocking my vote would be to grab a z68 board and the 2500 then when IB comes out sell the 2500 and grab a new chip. Outta curiosity what do you have against overclocking?

I don't have anything against overclocking but i personally don't like it for basically 3 reasons:

Firstly i won't be playing games on a very large screen my resolution would be around 1240x1024 and i think these specs will run every game on high on stock settings. Secondly somehow i feel overclocking something reduces life of that product. Thirdly, i live in india and here in summers its damn hot and if i overclock it will produce much more heat.

 

[lehtv]

If you are against overclocking my vote would be to grab a z68 board and the 2500 then when IB comes out sell the 2500 and grab a new chip.

What's the point of upgrading to Ivy Bridge? It's only marginally faster. I5-2500 will last until Haswell even for the the most demanding users, for most it will last until Rockwell. Better to save some cash and go with a H67 board as long as SLi/Crossfire isn't needed.

 

[fastamdman]

Cheap coolers such as hyper 212+'s can combat with the heat. Also "low" overclocks like a 2500k to 4.0ghz can run on stock voltage and not produce any extra heat and won't reduce the life. When you hear of degradation or chips not lasting as long due to overclocking, we are talking 15 years vs 20yrs. No one will have a chip long enough nowadays to notice the difference.

I could run this 2500k at 1.6 volts 24/7 until I upgraded and have no issues and neither would the next person who got it.

I am not trying to change your mind, just giving you the facts . Heat is nothing nowadays like it was back then. 2500k's and SB chips in general run really cool.

 

[fastamdman]

What's the point of upgrading to Ivy Bridge? It's only marginally faster. I5-2500 will last until Haswell even for the the most demanding users, for most it will last until Rockwell. Better to save some cash and go with a H67 board as long as SLi/Crossfire isn't needed.

I hate recommending dead old crappy things like h67 boards. There is no headroom for later on down the line. Point of upgrading to IB? I'm sorry have you seen the reviews / numbers it's laying down? We have no idea how much faster it's going to be but it's like saying "why buy a 2500k when you can buy a 2500". The option is there for the overclockers and for the people who want more power. Getting stuck with a dead end board / chip isn't any fun.

Z68 + 2500k ftw.

Edit: Meant to merge that with my other post, sorry about that.

 

[rahulmax]

This is what i'll be going for now finally :
i5 2500
gtx 560 ti
4 gb ram for now..
asus h61 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131787

hyper 212 plus( will this fit on the above motherboard and also let me to have space for the ram slots?

corsair gs 600 ( this enough for all this? )

 

[fastamdman]

Just to make you aware the board you posted is a MICRO atx board, not a normal full size board. For 20 dollars more *dunno about where you live* you could get a z68 board.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157270

And yes the hyper 212+ should work just fine on the h61 even though I don't want you to get an older board, brawr. AT LEAST go p67.

 

[rahulmax]

Just to make you aware the board you posted is a MICRO atx board, not a normal full size board. For 20 dollars more *dunno about where you live* you could get a z68 board.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157270

And yes the hyper 212+ should work just fine on the h61 even though I don't want you to get an older board, brawr. AT LEAST go p67.

LOL... I kno bro.. if only i could do that (brawr) to my budget, i'd definitely get a z68...i'll see.. what about the power supply, gs 600 good enough?
what is your system's configuration? (if ya dont mind telling)

 

[fastamdman]

I run a 2500k, 8gb corsair ram, gigabyte z68 ud3 board. It was a cheap 2500k . If you do bundles on newegg you can get discounts.

What is your budget in USD and where exactly are you shopping at?

I can pick you out the BEST parts for your budget.

As far as the g600 it's great but a corsair builder 500watt would do you just fine

 

[rahulmax]

I live in INDIA!! All these specs that i have mentioned would cost me $720 or indian rupees 36000)

And newegg don't ship anything here rather no US based website won't be shipping it because it's pretty far!!

$720 is a bit over my budget and i'm getting h61 for 3450 indian rupees or $69!
the cheapest p67 mobo starts for 5000 or $100 so u can imagine a z68!! i can go for a p67 if i drop the hyper 212 plus!!

 

[fastamdman]

What are shipping costs like from US to India? You could always have someone build you a rig here and ship it to you, or sell you one. That might be a better route. Don't drop the hyper 212+. Also the p67 isn't really worth it either imo. Go h67 > p67 but z68>all

Edit: Also maybe someone could just buy a board for you in the states and then ship it to you

 

[rahulmax]

Yeah could do that i have my uncle who lives in jersey. But not sure if i want to be giving him a headache just for a motherboard and also i'd only do that if they'll b providing international warranty.

Dunno about the shipping cost but i guess everything that is received here has to undergo customs and then they will put duties on it, so i guess it will cost almost like what it sells for here!! Don't want the headache!!

I'd go for the h61 for now..it is a cheap one.. after a few months i'll see.. if budget allows ill change it, coz as f now i rilly cant UP my budget!!

 

[fastamdman]

my 2 cents if you can afford it. Go h61 now, grab a 2500k and stock cooler. Then later on sell the h61 board and grab a z68 and overclock

 

[rahulmax]

yeah.. i'll be doing that...thanks!! hows gtx 560 ti? is it good? i have heard some people have problems like black screen or games crashing with that card!!

 

[fastamdman]

Generally the issues people have with cards are PSU related or driver related. The gtx 560ti is an absolute amazing card for the price. I would go with the 1gb version but thats just me