building a new system - i want it quiet

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merk

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ok one more question: how much of a performance difference will i see with this card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814125025 instead of the 1800 ? If i switch to that card it knocks about $200 off the total price since i dont need to buy an extra cooler either (at least i hope not since the user review says its silent).

I'm assuming going from the 9700pro to a 7600gs i will see a noticeable performance gain (plus with the faster cpu as well). But just how big a difference will i see from the 9700 to the 7600 vs the 1800 ?

thanks again
 

merk

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i just took a quick look on 3dmark's site and it seems like i'd get maybe around a 4x increase in 3dmarks scores going from the 9700pro to the 7600gt. With the 7800gt it would be 6-7 increase and with the x1800 it would be 5-6 roughly.

So right now i'm thinking the 7600gt is probably the best fit for what i want. It should give me a pretty nice performance boost from what i have now and it'll save me about $200 over the higher end cards.
 

merk

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ok new question. anything you guys can suggest for getting my existing windows install to work on the new system? i was hoping (long shot i know) that it would boot, find all the new hardware, do its thing and then be ok. but it starts to boot and then crashes.

i booted into safe mode and ran some the driver install files that came with the mobo, which got the USB and LAN working. BUt only in safe mode. I tried running msconfig and disabling a few things but nothing helps.

any suggestions? i'd REALLY like to avoid having to reinstall windows and all my programs. if i could do a windows repair or something that would be ok.

thanks in advance for any advice on this.
 

Gstanfor

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Did you completely remove all motherboard chipset drivers from windows beforehand, if not and you still have access to the old system, pop the HDD back in the old system and do so. Go through device manager and uninstall everything you can related to the old system, when asked to reboot shut down totally and place the HDD into the new system. good luck.
 

merk

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sadly, and stupidly, no i didnt do that. i realized my mistake about 2 minutes after i booted up ... which didnt do me much good.

I looked through the add/remove control panel and i dont see anything in there to remove any of the drivers from the old board.

From the display during the safemode boot up, the only thing i noticed offhand that i'm pretty sure is from the old board is some VIA driver file. The only thing in the add/remove panel is the ATI control panel software but i cant remove that while in safemode.

Do you happen to know of any way i can find out which file/program/driver is causing the crash? even if i cant uninstall it i should be able to at least rename it to something else to prevent windows from loading it.

Do you think doing a windows repair install would fix this? Or what about removing everything from device manager? nothing is showing up in there as not working though. But there does seem to be more stuff under the system devices then i remember. But i could be remembering incorrectly since i dont normally have any reason to go look in there very often. Multiple instances of motherboard resources, PCI standard host cpu bridge, pci standard ISA bridge (there are no ISA slots though), PCI standard PCI-to-PCI bridge

thanks for the help
 

Gstanfor

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Perhaps driver cleaner may be able to find and remove the older drivers? Never tried this though.
I think a repair install might be your only option at this point, unless you have a ghost of your old system and can try migrating again.
 

cubby1223

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Originally posted by: merk
ok new question. anything you guys can suggest for getting my existing windows install to work on the new system? i was hoping (long shot i know) that it would boot, find all the new hardware, do its thing and then be ok. but it starts to boot and then crashes.

i booted into safe mode and ran some the driver install files that came with the mobo, which got the USB and LAN working. BUt only in safe mode. I tried running msconfig and disabling a few things but nothing helps.

any suggestions? i'd REALLY like to avoid having to reinstall windows and all my programs. if i could do a windows repair or something that would be ok.

thanks in advance for any advice on this.

Just do a repair install from your windows cd.

I've taken computers from a KT133A chipset to an nForce3 with a repair install. Also taken an Athlon64 ATi chipset to an i865G chipset with a repair install. You do not have to remove drivers prior to doing the repair install. Though it wouldn't hurt running through any with a specific uninstall program (like the ATi video drivers).
 

merk

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holy cow ... i'm typing this from windows xp NOT in safe mode :)

Either driver cleaner did it, or something i found on google did (or both). I wrote down the stop code i was getting and there was a similar stop code i found on google which pointed to an error involving SP1 and SP2 and going from intel to amd. Since i did go from intel to amd, i thought i'd try it. I disabled an intel file, intelppm.sys ...and now it boots. :)

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Gstanfor

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Yes, I thought your problem would be that you didn't remove the old uniprocessor model so windows would boot up expecting to find Intel, but discovers AMD instead, and freaks out.