and it will have a resolution of between 1366x768 and 1280 x720, hell a 7800GT would be over kill.
and it will have a resolution of between 1366x768 and 1280 x720, hell a 7800GT would be over kill.
Looking at your expected resolutions ... Just drop in a single 7900GTX. Then if you are at all disapointed with the performance within the next 1-2 months drop in a second 7900 GTX and you'll have better then a stock 7950gX2 or non-modded SLI-7900GT.
SLI support has improved quite a bit but it's still far from perfect.
Edit - Damn, one of these days I need to update that sig... finally learned to part with things and sell the extras.
SLI support has improved quite a bit but it's still far from perfect.
Edit - Damn, one of these days I need to update that sig... finally learned to part with things and sell the extras.
ya but obviously the better cards even with resolution will provide better FPS. dosnt that matter?
Nope. Check that link I posted above. Often times, at certain resolutions such as 1280x1024, you'll find ultra-high-end cards simply matching high-end cards because that resolution isn't enough to stress them. Let's use the BF2 test-- see how the GX2 pulls in 91fps at 1280x1024 noAA, then 90fps with AA, then 89 as it moves up to 1600x1200, only dropping another 3fps with AA, then another very small drop at 2048x1536. The power of the card is just now stating to shine through.
With this proposed build, you obviously have a very good budget. Personally, I would see where I could downgrade a little here and there and use that saved money on a kickass monitor. THEN, it's time for some ultra-high-end gaming with dual-GTXs or GX2, etc.
Eh, gota fit everything into a dorm room 
so im gona stick with my VP191B and the 32" HDTV Samsung LCD. I think ill just stick with the 7900 GTX
so im gona stick with my VP191B and the 32" HDTV Samsung LCD. I think ill just stick with the 7900 GTXOriginally posted by: Ramzie
Eh, gota fit everything into a dorm room
Good choice since the resolutions are not that high. Give a look to the X1900 cards also if you can.
Just get a single 7900GT for your res.
I have basically the same monitor as you do and I have dual 7900GT's. It's OVERKILL for me. But then again, one was basically free (for me)
And for a better single card solution, I'd look into the X1900's. Basically the same price (if not cheaper, not sure) and you get HDR+AA. Now, HDR+AA in Oblivion is a world of difference.
Have fun.
I have basically the same monitor as you do and I have dual 7900GT's. It's OVERKILL for me. But then again, one was basically free
(for me)And for a better single card solution, I'd look into the X1900's. Basically the same price (if not cheaper, not sure) and you get HDR+AA. Now, HDR+AA in Oblivion is a world of difference.
Have fun.
wait so ... 1900XTX ... that will handle EVERYTHING with good FPS? what about crossfire? hrmm ... what about on 590 chipset? and what brand 1900XTX?
At that res, a X1900XT will hadle everything.
I think the main agreement on the forums here (I said I THINK) is that the X1900XT(X) is a better card if your going for just one fast card. It often is as fast as a 7900GTX and takes less of a hit with AA and AF.
You also get more features with the X1900 like HQAF, and HDR+AA.
Hrmm ... Im still leaning towards the 7900GTX because it lends itself to the future. If/when games get to be too much for one 7900GTX to handle on my system, i can pop in another for SLI! also ...
Is the AA+HDR on ATI cards and not Nvidia cards a hardware thing or just somthing that will be addressed in the future with drivers for nvidia cards?
Im a nvidia person so its going to take a bit more to win me over to ATI but HDR+AA is one hell of a blow to my former video card peoples.
So right now ATI = HDR+AA but Nvidia = SLI and thus is more future proof.
Is the AA+HDR on ATI cards and not Nvidia cards a hardware thing or just somthing that will be addressed in the future with drivers for nvidia cards?
Im a nvidia person so its going to take a bit more to win me over to ATI but HDR+AA is one hell of a blow to my former video card peoples.
So right now ATI = HDR+AA but Nvidia = SLI and thus is more future proof.
The problem is, by the time your GTX is having difficulty handling games, the cost to get a second one isn't going to be as attractive as selling off your GTX and getting whatever DX10 card is out at that time. It might also be just as fast as 2 GTXs in SLI. It may not. But it will definitely have better features and have a much better price/performance ratio. Buying a second card later down the road (like a year later) just doesn't work out unless you find an absolutely AMAZING deal on it.
7900GT or 1900XT are better choices.
7900GTX and 1900XTX are simply factory OCed versions of above cards costing hundreds more. very bad performance/price ratio.
7950GX2 if you really want future proof your card with HDCP support. Its the fastest card out there and most likely you'll able to pop-in another one in the future for quad-Sli. Expensive though.
7900GTX and 1900XTX are simply factory OCed versions of above cards costing hundreds more. very bad performance/price ratio.
7950GX2 if you really want future proof your card with HDCP support. Its the fastest card out there and most likely you'll able to pop-in another one in the future for quad-Sli. Expensive though.
Hardware based.
SLI is a crap upgrade path, look at the prices of the 7800GTX range now, what do you think the prices of the 7900GTX are going to be like a few months after the next gen is released. A single new card in 6 months to a year is going to be as fast as SLI would be (roughly) for around the same amount of money as a single next gencard. After a year or so it's going to be a very bad idea as the prices won't have fallen much and the then current gen will be even faster. SLI is a great way to get serrious hardcore graphics, or to do an upgrade under 6 months, but other than that it's marketing.
Personally the X1900XTX is more futureproof, it's a beast of a card, Nvida can get away with a smaller transistor count thanks to cunning and dropping AA+HDR but in newer games i think (correct me if i'm wrong) the X1900XTX is a better bet.
I've got a 7800GT, love it to bits, but the X1900XT/(X) are great cards and no mistake.
Edit: The 7950X2 does have HDCP, but since there aren't going to be movies using it for the next few years it's a bit irrelevant. It's overkill for those resolutions imo.
Overkill and I kinda get along ...
So let me get this straight ... X1900XTX = AA+HDR and is basically as fast (differing both ways by about 10% from what ive read depending on the game and only in high res modes) as a 7900GTX BUT ... a 7950GX2 will still blow them both away as far as my ability goes to get awesome FPS with EVERYTHING ramped up (full AA, AF, etc etc)
yes?
So let me get this straight ... X1900XTX = AA+HDR and is basically as fast (differing both ways by about 10% from what ive read depending on the game and only in high res modes) as a 7900GTX BUT ... a 7950GX2 will still blow them both away as far as my ability goes to get awesome FPS with EVERYTHING ramped up (full AA, AF, etc etc)
yes?
Yes and no, in most games it won't make any difference as you'll be CPU bound at that resolution. There's overkill and there's sillyness a 7950X2 is well into the second category imo.
Edited to make sense.
haha nod nod ...
OK ... so really im back to 7900GTX vs X1900XTX ... DAMNIT! =P
Well either way im putting a Zalman CU-900 GPU cooler on it! figured somthin out heh
Its looking like the X1900XTX is better as far as single future proof cards go but ... sigh, i like nvidia. Moot point now i guess seeing as there really isnt much difference. Ill proly go 7900GTX just cause its prooved faster in games i like but well see ... im getting a nagging "go for the X1900XTX!" feeling in my gut ...
OK ... so really im back to 7900GTX vs X1900XTX ... DAMNIT! =P
Well either way im putting a Zalman CU-900 GPU cooler on it! figured somthin out heh
Its looking like the X1900XTX is better as far as single future proof cards go but ... sigh, i like nvidia. Moot point now i guess seeing as there really isnt much difference. Ill proly go 7900GTX just cause its prooved faster in games i like but well see ... im getting a nagging "go for the X1900XTX!" feeling in my gut ...
Yes. 7950GX2 is basically a SLI setup which beats any single GPU card.
In most game it WILL make a difference and is only as CPU bounded as 2 7900GTs.
check it out here
Originally posted by: Bobthelost
Yes and no, in most games it won't make any difference in some games as you'll be CPU bound at that resolution. There's overkill and there's sillyness a 7950X2 is well into the second category imo.
I agree with Bob. You simply should consider staying with the lower priced single card (ie 7900GT or X1900XT), or upgrade your monitor. With a budget your size, why would you want to keep yourself bound to a low resolution, and more importantly, a non widescreen resolution. I upgraded from a 17" Samsung LCD to a 20.1 WS, and the difference was amazing. I am not a hardcore gamer, so if I can appreciate the difference, I am certain you would too. A nice 20.1 WS (1680x1050 resolution) LCD will run you around $300-350. The Viewsonic VX2025 is a great choice for under $300 after rebate, I have one sitting on my desk as I type this. The Dell 2007WFP is also a great choice now that they have fixed the banding issues with them. I hated my first one, but since Dell shipped me a revised panel I have grown to like it quite a bit.
how about Radeon X1900XTX crossfire or the ATi will-be-competitor to geforce 7950GX 2
why are you going for X2 4600, get intel conroe?
if not conroe, why not amd dual core opteron, good overclockers, right?
why are you going for X2 4600, get intel conroe?
if not conroe, why not amd dual core opteron, good overclockers, right?
I prefure the Athlon X2 line as i dont like to OC and if u ask me Conroe just isnt realistic. For the availibilty, price, and probably staggered release, i dont think its going to really be a realistic option until 2007 (for me atleast because as much as im willing to spend, there are limits)
OK ... so say i did upgrade to a viewsonic (i like viewsonic) 20.1 widescreen LCD ... what would be the best option then ... still one the single X1900XTX or 7900GTX or does the 7900GX2 then become the best option for that moniter? sigh ... how many laps have i made around this circle now?
OK ... so say i did upgrade to a viewsonic (i like viewsonic) 20.1 widescreen LCD ... what would be the best option then ... still one the single X1900XTX or 7900GTX or does the 7900GX2 then become the best option for that moniter? sigh ... how many laps have i made around this circle now?
X2 is pretty nice but I think there will be a price drop in a few days... 23rd?
I would say so.. 7950GX2 is a much better value than both 1900XTX and 7900GTX.
I guess 1900XT or 7900GT(oc) would work as well if you don't crack up everything to max...
I would say so.. 7950GX2 is a much better value than both 1900XTX and 7900GTX.
I guess 1900XT or 7900GT(oc) would work as well if you don't crack up everything to max...
I wouldn't spend the extra money on the XTX unless you think that they have better quality cores than the XT's. The XT would overclock easily to XTX specs or more and become no different from an XTX.
The differance between the 7900GT and the GTX are not exaclty the same as the difference between the XT and XTX. With the GTX, you get twice the memory compared to the GT. While it may not help in every game, it is nice to have. (Oblivion mods and things)
The XT can perform very closely to the GTX, offer more features that result in better looking graphics, and cost less. Also, ATI's X1800's and X1900's have a better memory controller on them (ring-bus memory) which is more effecient than normal memory controllers.
The GTX has the crown in being quiet though. The XT(X)'s can get quite loud and are generally hotter (Note: they can take the heat, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't make a gamer nervous) I don't know how much of this will matter to you since you're going to be putting on a different cooler anyway.
At your resolution, you've got a lot of options, but I would go with the 1900XT since it isn't too expensive for the performance that your system is going to be limited to. So far, the XTX has been getting me along in Oblivion just fine with HDR/2xAA/16xHQAF/@2048x1536.
The differance between the 7900GT and the GTX are not exaclty the same as the difference between the XT and XTX. With the GTX, you get twice the memory compared to the GT. While it may not help in every game, it is nice to have. (Oblivion mods and things)
The XT can perform very closely to the GTX, offer more features that result in better looking graphics, and cost less. Also, ATI's X1800's and X1900's have a better memory controller on them (ring-bus memory) which is more effecient than normal memory controllers.
The GTX has the crown in being quiet though. The XT(X)'s can get quite loud and are generally hotter (Note: they can take the heat, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't make a gamer nervous) I don't know how much of this will matter to you since you're going to be putting on a different cooler anyway.
At your resolution, you've got a lot of options, but I would go with the 1900XT since it isn't too expensive for the performance that your system is going to be limited to. So far, the XTX has been getting me along in Oblivion just fine with HDR/2xAA/16xHQAF/@2048x1536.
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Get the X1900XT.
- GX2 is cool, but I wouldn't bet on Quad-SLI until it's out, stable, and performs like you'd want it to. By that time, I'd be willing to bet that there is something new out. Also, I'd be surprised if Quad-SLI doesn't get out on the back burner after G80 is launched. From what we've heard so far, G80 is going to be very power hunger and hot, which doesn't really lend itself to a dual gpu card like the GX2. Apparently, the next generation after that will be focused on reducing heat and power consumption.
- GTX is about equal to the X1900XT(X), but it is generally more expensive.
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